Now that the dust has settled, who was in the right here?
i see two white faggots whose life's work amounted to nothing as nobody readseveryone just worships at the altar of the latest bullshit as they grow progressively browner and dumberirreversible. terminal
>>25039043grim but true. it's basically over.
>>25039018Neither of them are good authors. Have you read As I Lay Dying or The Sound and the Fury? Gimmicky trash. Have you read A Farewell to Arms or The Sun Also Rises? Lowest common denominator slop.
>>25039018Hemingway. /lit/ will defend Faulkner or shit on both because they're also pseuds.
>>25039018My gut says Hemingway, though I recently have been reading a lot of books with words I don't know in them and enjoying it.There is enough room in literature to enjoy both extremes.
Hemingway is the Stephen King of literature. Faulkner was an actual genius.
Reading Faulkner is even more tedious and fruitless than reading Joyce. Hemingway won.
I agree with Faulkner, big emotions do indeed come from big words.
Faulkner is presenting this as if using uncommon words is a sort of mark of quality when some of the strongest passages are made up of normal every day words. The most memorable passages of Joyce are all made up of words every person knows.>But my body was like a harp and her words and gestures were like fingers running down the wires. >Her name was like a summons to all my foolish blood>He had never felt like that himselftowards any woman but he knew that such a feeling must be love. and so forth.
>>25039302>the most memorable passages are made of words that people are familiar with and which therefore are easier to remember
>>25039018Faulkner
>>25039018faulkner shoulda kept his gob shut on this one
>>25039310>Retarded frog poster thinks memorable simply means easy to remember.
If every writer used the same style or bank of words, it would be a very boring literary landscape. Can't we just enjoy the differences without ranking them as if they're in line for a prize?
vote results so far itthemingway: 5faulkner: 3
faulkner wins. his diction is hardly all that complicated so its funny watching ernest mald like a spazz
>>25039018Heming way sound like a redditor on r/clevercomebacks in this.Gotta give it to Faulkner.
>>25039018faulcooner's idea of courage is to use a really hard word so he had already lost before hemingoat said anything
>>25039973porn addicted brainrottage
>>25039018lol I'm imagining a hypothetical The Old Man and the Sea where the narrator is describing Santiago with words like lugubrious and dolorous. Faulkner is a dolt.The fact that Faulkner thinks in terms of being courageous or going out on a limb betrays his core weakness, which is that he was addicted to the praise. A good writer captures truth, meaning, irony, beauty. If you're only writing to impress people and stoke your ego than you've preemptively lost your seat at the table of The Great.
Hemingway could make a case if his works had any pathos whatsoever but even in their most maudlin moments they read as dry recitations with no passion to animate them. Faulkner wins by a landslide and his stylistic aspects cement this further as he manifests part of the American tradition of manifesting prose poetry to compensate for the direct poetic tradition we predominantly lack.
>>25039018Hemingway is a based nazi killer and he also killed Faulkner with his retort.
>>25039018faulkner. hemingway's the guy on the left.
fortunately for me i don't have to choose and i enjoy both loadsi like when authors get very opinionated. in order to create great art you have to believe very strongly in they way you're doing it, sometimes to the exclusion of other antithetical approaches.but you don't have to be so dogmatic as a reader, you can appreciate different authors for their different perspectives
Heminggay and Fagner both suck.
Me. Faulkner clears.
Garner's Modern English Usage has a good essay on this>Consider words as analogues to mathematical fractions, both being symbols for material or conceptual referents: would a self-respecting mathematician say 12/48 instead of 1/4 just to sound more erudite? Certainly not. Likewise, a writer or speaker generally should not say obtund when the verbs dull and blunt come more readily to mind. >But what about the mathematician who arrives at 15/16? Is it really best to round off the fraction to 1? Maybe in some contexts, but not in all—certainly not in the professional context. Likewise with the writer who, when describing an asthenic person, should not balk at using asthenic rather than the vaguer weak, because the former evokes the distinct image of muscular atrophy, which the latter lacks. And why engage in circumlocutions when a single word neatly suffices?
>>25040016Hemingway was more of a poet than Faulkner though
>>25039047As I Lay Dying put me on realist art and ive been desperately consooming ever since
>>25040061>fortunately for me i don't have to choose and i enjoy both loadslmao GAY
>>25039018Faulkner. He is easily 10-100x the better writer than Hemmingway.
>>25039018This story has been exaggerated over the years. That's not Faulkner's original quote. Only the last part is, about the dictionary. He said later that he meant it as a compliment, praise for Hemingway's simple but effective prose style. That may or may not be true, but it is true that Faulkner was a fan. But Hemingway took it the wrong way and saw it as a personal attack when it really wasn't. I can't blame him though, it does read like a backhanded compliment without context.They kissed and made up later, but nobody cares about that.
If Faulkner had written The Old Man and the Sea it would have been at least three times longer.Which is a good thing. When i was reading it, i could see glimpses of true genius, and the fading echoes of a novelist's true potential, but it all fizzled out and died pathetically.
Noone beats Hemmy.
>>25039047What is gimmicky about either, but especially As I Lay Dying?
>>25039018It will always be Faulkner and by a mile
>>25039018Hemingway's prose was excessively simple to the point that it sometimes felt like adventure stories for 10 year old boys.Faulkner's was sometimes excessively flowery to the point that it felt sleepyOn the whole both were excellentI have SPOKEN.>>25039047Ok then. Who do you think is good?
