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I think this man proved Heaven is real. With both his book (Heaven Stormed) and with his testimony and other's testimonies of Heaven and Hell from their near-death experience on his youtube channel. The man and his guest seem very honest; having nothing to gain and want nothing except that you give their testimony a chance and come to believe in Christ.
Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFNmphD5Ro8
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I think OP is a fag.
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>>25041432
Being honest doesn't mean not mistaken.
Non-Christians have NDEs that support their non-Christian beliefs, so if there's something there, it obviously isn't very picky about what you believe.
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>>25041517
>Being honest doesn't mean not mistaken.
I agree, which is why I also judge them based on their testimony and the details of Hell and the eternal realm.
>Non-Christians have NDEs that support their non-Christian beliefs
If there were a Hell and a Satan, he might deceive them into a false paradise so that they remain in their ignorance until he knows that there is no way to revive said person. Convenient, yes; so I won't claim this is an absolute and objective refutation but a possibility.
> it obviously isn't very picky about what you believe.
I came to believe in God thanks to these testimonies. Many of them sounded fake and made up and I honestly believe there are fake Christians making NDEs up for views; they aren't as detailed as the one I linked above. I am amazed at the proto-Platonic contained in it; the speaker unaware of it, evidently since he has never read Plato. It honestly seems true to me. Could you at least watch the video, so you can see what I mean? Do you notice him trying to grasp at Platonic concepts but unable to articulate himself as well as might have if he were acquainted with Plato?
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>>25041432
>having nothing to gain and want nothing
Wrong. People who lie about this sort of thing want attention. They're exactly the same as the people who are willing to pretend to be hypnotized and ckuck like a chicken, just to have 5 minutes on a stage.
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>>25041664
Ah dang, I didn't link the Hell testimony with proto-Platonic thoughts. Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZbvgk4w_Q
This is the one which really makes me that he is telling the truth
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>>25041672
Well, could you at least watch the video of the Hell testimony I linked here>>25041674
I think that one is the most convincing because of the intended ideas he was trying to get across but couldn't
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>>25041664
>If there were a Hell and a Satan, he might deceive them into a false paradise
Same goes for demons from other religions and mythologies deceiving Christians.
>Could you at least watch the video, so you can see what I mean?
I've been reading NDE lit for a very long time because, despite doubts, I want it to be true. You should also look into the phenomenon of "one's life flashing before one's eyes" that's commonly reported to happen before the tunnel effects, etc. It's not a metaphor. People note it as every experience of their life, including long forgotten ones, literally flashing past as a kind of visual phenomenon.
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>>25041797
>Same goes for demons from other religions and mythologies deceiving Christians
What about atheist/agnostics who goto Hell, New Age followers who goto Hell and even nominal Christians who goto Hell. I don't see why they would lie about that. I would think they would have NDEs which further support their position, not undermine it. I agree, it's one thing for a Hindu or Christian to experience the afterlife according to their conception of it; it's another thing for it to go completely contrary to it and follow the conception of another religion to a T. And it's always the adherents of other religions following Christ afterwards.
>You should also look into the phenomenon of "one's life flashing before one's eyes"
Yes, I believe this might a neutral phenomenon; common to all beliefs/ideologies. It doesn't necessarily disprove or prove any one ideology. I do think this might happen for some people.
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>>25041432
>people have hallucinations or dreams
>this prove heaven and hell exist

ok sure
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>>25042791
Did you even watch it. I know you guys don't read, but don't tell me you also don't watch at all as well
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>>25041672
>"muh lies" cope
Wait until you read about the OBE cases, then.



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