I went to a private school where we were literally forced to "read the Greeks" and I took Latin until I was 18.I then studied PPE at Oxford.The last 7 years of my life have been exclusively NON-FICTION.Reading isn't fun. I didn't need reading to be fun. It was 'productive and educational' (the two most important things).Which FICTION books do you think will help reform a purely non-fiction reader?
>>25074187Gravity's Rainbow
>>25074187Death's Head by David Gunn
>>25074187>Which FICTION books do you think will help reform a purely non-fiction reader?Go for some easy adventure books. Early Tom Clancy, James bond books, Sci fi in general, warhammer books, Tolkien. The most important thing is to realize that books can be entertainment just like movies or videogames.
>>25074187go back to r/HENRYUK. we're doomed if your oxford philosophy modules gave you no love of reading.
If you like space and science, read Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
>>25074187I don't know you well enough to say what you'd enjoy. You might find Nausea by Sartre relatable.Stop hating yourself for other people's jealousy. Learn to love what you have and strive for even more
what HAPPENED to white men?
>>25074882They forgot how to bring forth the violence that maintains empire
>>25074187inside knuckleball
>high fantasyLOTR>low fantasyConan the Barbarian>hard sci-fiRingworld>soft sci-fiDune>thrillersMr Ripley seriesGraham Greene>20th century literary fiction SteinbeckFitzgeraldHemingwayKarouac>japaneseMishimaKawabataDazai>comedyA confederacy of duncesHunter S Thompson>poetryShakespeareWildeBukowskiFrostBashoBasically just stop taking yourself too seriously. I know so Oxford grads. You are all the same. You aren't as trapped or tormented as you think. I went through the same, despite being self taught. Just play video and do your drug of choice and meet interesting types in pubs.
>>25074187PG Wodehouse. Not excessively difficult, not idiotically simplistic, deeply enjoyable and humorous.
>>25074187You might like Confederacy of Dunces too
>>25074882I actually relate to the meme. Yeah, it's meant to poke fun at a certain stereotype, but like... what's wrong with being like that?
>>25075631It's fine if you don't expect everyone else to do the same. These guys always start bloviating and being condescending when other people start talking about books they read. You see it even on this board when someone asks about a genre book. They're the intellectual equivalent of religious scolds telling everyone not to fuck. Like just quietly be superior if you're superior.
>>25075631it’s lame.
>>25075631It's proufoundly insincere way of being, people who make being an intellectual their entire personality are usually intelligent but severely lacking in other personal qualities so they overcompensate by leaning on their only talent. You should strive to fix the insecurities that make you act like that instead.>>25076826There's absolutely nothing wrong with letting retards know that they're retards. Art started going to shit the moment that "let people enjoy things" became a dogma. By never questioning anyone's taste, you rob people of the possibilities of learning from people with better taste.
>>25076888I don't expect a 4channer to understand this, but all you're going to do by "letting retards know they're retards" is alienate yourself from the group. You're better off sowing seeds of interest in hopes of conversion.
>>25075631You're destructive instead of creative, a servant of evil.>>25076903Fuck off retard.
>>25076903>but all you're going to do by "letting retards know they're retards" is alienate yourself from the group.What if I already have a group that recognizes the existence of retards and agrees with me that retards should stay quiet more often? I wouldn't need the approval of retards to have a social group then. This is how society has functioned for the vast majority of human history
>>25076913Well now you're alienated, anon. Enjoy your life of no friends and a mother who is ashamed of you.
>>25076927Why are you even interacting with retards then?
>>25076928I don't want evil and retarded "friends". Anyone who thinks like you doesn't grasp the concept of friendship or anything else. Every thought you have is deferred to a group in which everyone else is doing the same thing so no actual thinking ever happens.
>>25076939Evil? Who said anything about evil, anon?
>>25076956I did.>You're destructive instead of creative, a servant of evil.Death and decay, rotting flesh, burned books, the end of rational thought and civilization, that's what you serve.
>>25076960OK, get some help, kiddo, before you shoot up a school.
>>25076974I presented the logic, it's not complicated but because you really are absolutely mindless you can't understand anything about any subject no matter how much it's spoonfed to you.
>>25076960>>25076975brown, curry smelling hands typed this
>>25074187Sadly, Porn by Md. TeachIt’s literally written for men like you - generically Lacanian in its approach.
>>25076935They're everywhere, sometimes you can't avoid it.
>>25076974>>25076981>Every thought you have is deferred to a group in which everyone else is doing the same thing so no actual thinking ever happens.There's nothing going on in your minds except this pathetic appeal to group consensus. Pure mindless evil.
>>25076903Oh no! Not alienation from people I have nothing in common with. Whatever shall I do?
>>25077276Man is not an island.The patricians need the plebs.
Read autobiographies and memoirs to ease you into fiction. You won't feel like you're wasting your time. I recommend Cellini and Rousseau to start off with.
Non-fiction is great.
>>25074187The Picture of Dorian GrayYou can read it in a day.
>>25074187Infinite fucking jest. Start with the footnotes.
>>25077002Thank you. More recs?
>>25075631It's rooted in deep insecurity. People like that are driven by a need to feel superior to others instead of a genuine love for learning.
>>25077002>>25077317^This>>25077945>Bible in Greek (typology maxxing)>Glamorama>Mystics like Teresa de Avila (Inner Castle)>Yeats & Heaney, Baudelaire & Cesar Vallejo poems
>>25074187Did you screenshot an Instagram post, zoom in on the screenshot, and then take another screenshot? Fuck you, retard.
>>25078022then has the temerity to come on /lit/ and LARP as an ox4rd graduate.
Be charming enough that people like you and have fun about 80% of the time. If you can't make witty jokes with the plebs then you're not actually smart. The other 20% you need to reveal your power level, not to put down others, but to raise them up and make them reconsider their tastes, desires etc..
>>25074187robert e. howard's conan storiesflashmana confederacy of duncessnow crashthe hobbit (if you love it you can also read lotr, but absolutely do not read lotr first, it's not the right order for you)you already know how to do "serious" reading, you can go read highbrow literature but it won't show you what you're missing. you need well-crafted entertainment and all of these qualify.
>>25074187>Which FICTION books do you think will help reform a purely non-fiction reader?Patrick White, Tree of Man. Read it along side Kings and Chronicles. Good Modernist literature is basically inviting you into a knife fight where the winner gets showered in the neck blood of truth in a cumjackulation of death and meaning. If you've read seriously on hermeneutics you'll get what I'm saying. Open your anus to Patrick White. Then read Voss and the Vivisector.You can thank me later, mate, in your suicide note.
>>25078337selling too hard
>>25076903>alienate yourself from the group
>>25074187The Selfish Giant
>>25074187Start with the Greeks.
>>25078343I just want to cum inside him.
>>25077276But is it truly as you say it is? For even Socrates was alienated by his own common citizens. The difference is that he knew his allegiance to his people
>>25075631no bitches
>>25074187I want the theory boy in your picrel to be a hot blonde twink that I rape correct for being arrogant and bratty.
Play video games instead, you'll learn to chill out and not take things so seriously you fucking ivory tower mong
>>25075631The Intellect is not the Self.
>>25074187Malazan is a good bridge between fancy shit and slop.You will be able to enjoy Ericksons prose and laugh at Kruppes monologues like a fancy person while also reading a story about orc-adjacent ice zombies and their magical velociraptor friends
>>25074187>private>not public/boardingOff my board you prole swine reeeeee
>>25075631Unproductive
>>25074187Conan Doyle
>>25074187if you want read for fun, read something that sounds fun to you
>>25074187I’m positive this was made by a female.Trying to imagine what it must be like to walk around with a genetically hard coded [Absolute Terror] when facing any social criticism, with a mind working at all times and in all contexts to avoid such a state gives me serious second hand anxiety.
>>25075276>high fantasyLOTR>low fantasyConan the BarbarianThose are both high fantasy as they take place in secondary worlds. As literary terms, high and low just man if they taste place in a fictional setting or the world as we know it.
>>25089217Conan takes place in our world anon
>>25090023As does LOTR, except both are so far removed from Earth, they are functionally secondary worlds and named as such.Worldbuilding a OC fantasy world and saying "Aktually this is planet Earth 85 million years ago" as easter egg trivia doesn't make it low fantasy.
