I have read Essays on Analytical Psychology and Modern Man in Search of a Soul, now I need recommendations: Which other Jung works should I read next/which are essential to understand the philosophy, and which authors/works influenced by or influencing Jung are essential to read next?Please help I am in desperate need of existential meaning.
The red book
>>25080625None.Jungian thought is a humiliation ritual - that it’s so completely laughable to propose any other mechanisms in the human psyche than those proposed by Freud you literally have to resort to /x/-posting/magic to not immediately by ripped apart by anyone with a functioning neocortex.
Astrology for chuds
>>25080650>it’s so completely laughable to propose any other mechanisms in the human psyche than those proposed by FreudTake finasteride and then tell me all your drives in life are motivated by sexual complexes
I consider Jungians to be subhuman filth.
>>25080625
Read about induced somnambulism and mesmerism - these formed the basis of his teachings and thought.
>>25080625>Le Freud le JungNobody outside english/phil departments take these guys seriously, even in my psych program they were mentioned tangentially, but then again my psych department was more behavioural-cognitive+bio
>>25080625It's Metaphysics applied to understanding Psychology/behavior.Modern Pysch hates metaphysics and stuff like the soul and literal meta physical influences that can affect someone's behavior; but has to admit in Jung's nomenclature like "psyche" to describe acceptable ontology that most people can relate to (let's be honest, how many times have we've said to ourselves the phrase "Hey where'd that thought come from? That's not like me...?!" You need to be able to account for multiple internal wills and that's where Jungianism accels and Modern Psychology doesn't).
>>25080878>Hey where'd that thought come from? That's not like me...?!Mega-cope
>>25080625Sorry dude, wrong Chart (>>25081300)How tf do I delete
Its embarrassing how Jung threads always without fail neglect Synchronicity. Read that and some secondary literature on if you want to grasp Jungs philosophy, which is deeply mystical and life affirming. The collective unconscious is God, btw.
>>25080650A covetous jew. Like a tribe of color-blind trying to convince the rest of the world that colors don't exist.
>>25080650deranged, Godless modernist hands typed this. dont you have a forest to burn down and children to chemically lobotomize?
>>25081321>The collective unconscious is God, btw.
>>25081205you made up the English language or did someone teach you all those words/ideas you think in?
at what point do I just put this shit down and admit he's writing schizo slop with no basis anywhere
>>25081300Lmao
>>25081379Ultra mega-cope
>>25080878>Hey where'd that thought come from? That's not like me...?!I have never thought this, ever.
>>25081403Have you ever had internal conflict?Have you ever had to change your mind?
>>25081414No
>>25081414Irrelevant
>>25081417>>25081418It's relevant. Not everyone is ontologically equal.Maybe some people suffer in ways others don't?
>>25081446I'm suffering in ways others who haven't had to read your bullshit aren't.
>>25081321God is Abraxas + Pleroma. Abraxas + Pleroma is the Collective Unconscious
>>25081461Ajax and Palmolive, got it
>>25080625I've been reading into him as well so far I've read:>2 essays on analytic psychology>Modern man in search of a soul>The undiscovered self/intereptation of dreams>Archetypes and the Collective Unconciousand I am currently reading>Structure and Dynamics of the psycheFrankly each individual work has a bunch of good in it I don't think you can actually skip that much nothing I have read already feels superfluous. Next I plan to read:>Symbols of Transformation>Psychological Types>Aion>Answer to Job>Psychology and Alchemy>Psychology of the transference>Mysterum ConiunctionisAlong with some related works from Von Franz and a variety of essays from other works though likely more than that. I'm comfortable with it taking a while. I'm also reading his letter's with the dominican Victor White. I also am actively practicing active imagination. I don't think Jung is actually terribly useful for "existential" meaning for that just read Gabriel Marcel's work the ontological mystery or some shusaku endo or something. >>25080631>>25081307larp, just do your own active imagination dont' read his journals.The only reason the red book got published is some Indian guy found a version of it his family didn't control, Jung's family did not want the red book published and he just was able to get it without their permission. If you read the red book you are spiritually indian. >>25080651astrology also rules
>>25081341Filtered & stick with fre*d
>>25081500All this and no synchronicity, how do retards here get this far while going nowhere?
>>25081549Retard, that's in structures and dynamics of the psyche.
>>25081546You're living neck-deep in horse shit if you take either seriously.
>>25081551Imagine not individually studying and valuing it, I sure can’t.
>>25081553I see no horse shit in Jung, only ancient and medieval divine metaphysical truths are to be found. Don’t you have some children to molest on a Caribbean island?
>>25080625It's unfortunate that the diagram in your picture, despite not being particular complicated, is in itself more interesting than the entirety of jungian philosophy
>>25081583You sound very stable and sane. Not deranged at all.
>>25080668he proposes that molested romantic faggots live for affection, you can have a limp dick and still sublimate your sex withholding affection and having a cat as a way to fulfill your affection needs that primarily were sexual.how you explain jung dreams about a walking dick? if you want to be hyperbolic about shit, how do you explain jung dreaming of a walking phallus dressed as a priest? how about this amount of faggotry is needed to rationalize this as not some homosexual lunatic?try to see your "muh" uno without taking mushrooms...also, you can hack the grid, masonic semites that are brown they do all the time withholding masonic prostitutes to fuck you psychically, you can even intercept internet information and incoming calls, you don't need some brown faggot dreaming about a walking dick dresses as priest to teach you shit if he can't even into that a synapses is an electrical signal and there are giant alien spaceships roaming around that is the god that he senses but can't identify because of how pseud he was that the gods didn't even gave him the courtesy to showing up because how embarrassing is dreaming of a walking dick dressed as a priest.the aliens would break his psych so much that his ideas would be like trying to extract gold from poop and calling it alchemy.
>>25081649damn freudians are completely out of their minds
>>25080631Fucking dumbass.
>>25080650There must be a reason why Freudfags are so insecure. What a pity Freud isn't around to help them.
>>25080676You should hear what they think of you.
>>25081398The point where you realise you're too midwitted to understand it. Somewhere near the start, I would think.
>>25081398>no basis anywhereJung practiced psychotherapy for 40 years.
his early and mid stuff was deep in bugmanism to defend his work then he got old af and lost giving a fuck so his late stuff is the real kino although his recently published red book gives you an inner look at the spiritual & alchemical process
All psychoanalysts are profane, satanic shitheads that immanentize man and his pursuit of the transcendent. Yes, even Jung is as bad as the rest of them.>>25081321>The collective unconscious is God, btw.Exhibit A
>>25081708You haven't read Jung.His studies led him to a direct confrontation with transcendence. When asked if he believed in God, he said, "I don't believe, I know."
>>25080625Watch Marie-Louis von Franz interviews on YouTube (there are dozens of hours of them) and read June Singer's book (pic-related) to better understand how Jung's work is put into practice.
>>25081992>no no see, Jung's primitive superstitious animism is actually a confrontation with the Absolute!!!Kys, may as well say the same thing about Freud or Lacan if the psyche is God to you.
>>25081708Sorry that the fact that all being emerges from and returns to the divine Absolute threatens your life denying, modern jewish ontology. And keep Voegelin's ideas away from your dirty hylic keyboard.>>25082085You sound completely deranged and unhappy, and provide no alternative metaphysical framework. You sound extremely jewish in your attempts to deny for others the nature of their souls and its connection to the beyond.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unus_mundusWhy does this tradition of philosophy cause so much uncontrollable seething? Are people just addicted to their life denying nihilism?
I'm so tired of how every Jung thread devolves into shit flinging from retards who haven't even read Jung let alone understood him. Usually performative christcucks from /pol/.Anyway, anyone who wants to seriously study Jung should look at relevant works from the following authors.1. Jung himself, obviously. All his stuff is worth reading except perhaps his dissertation about his cousin doing seances. 2. Erich Nuemann3. Marie Louise von Franz4. Mark Winborn5. Toni Wolff6. John Ryan Haule7. James Hillman8. Aniela Jaffe9. Robert Moore10. Paul Bishop11. Giovanni Colacicchi12. Henri Ellenberger13. Dario Nardi
>>25081708>>25081992You both stand out as pseuds and such is particularly embarrassing given the fact you're standing out in a Jung thread.
>>25082112Thank you for the actual and comprehensive answer. I'll read into these authors and the Singer and Campbell others mentioned. >>25081321Which secondary literature on Synchronicity is worth reading? >>25080734same question for these concepts
>>25082453>Which secondary literature on Synchronicity is worth reading?Off the top of my head:Kastrups book on Jung here >>25081546Revelations of Chance by MainPlasketts CoincidencesKingsleys CatafalqueThe Darkening Spirit by TaceyTaoism and Jung: Synchronicity and the self by Harold CowardSeveral of these are more overviews of Jung in general with really good subsections on synchronicity (Kastrup and Kingsley), while Plaskett branches off via a very unique and personal tale of a series of significant synchronicities/coincidences.tl;dr is that synchronicity for Jung demonstrates that the physical world and the psyche manifest and emerge from the same unitary source (collective unconscious/unus mundus), with any separation between the two being an illusion thats broken when matter and mind sync together in a manner that is impossible under reductionary materialism. The world operates more along the lines of the physics you'd expect out of a shared dream given all this.
>>25082463Also, this is an important related idea:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima_mundiAt the end of the day, much of what underpins Jung is neo-Platonic with a lot of alchemy mixed in. Why it causes so much seething here is weird.
>>25080625>Please help I am in desperate need of existential meaning.I recommend Memories, Dreams, Reflections by Jung. It will give you an essential insight into the man himself. Also consider reading Campbell, as has been mentioned. The Hero with a Thousand Faces is his most popular work but I'd say The Mythic Image is overall a better read, and no less accessible. There was also a PBS miniseries of Campbell's lectures called Mythos that I found incredibly insightful, if you can find it.
>>25082453Spiritualism and the foundations of C G Jung's psychology by Charet is an academic work. Bit dry, though.
>>25082473Most things have alchemy mixed in. Anything that doesn't have reversion to the starting perfect state as the highest goal, but rather the perfection or progression of the self tends to have its roots in alchemy somewhere.
>>25081321>Jung threads always without fail neglect SynchronicityYou might as well recommend Aurora consurgens
>>25081500>I don't think Jung is actually terribly useful for "existential" meaning for that just read Gabriel Marcel's workDo I have to be Catholic to get that out of him, you think? I'm afraid I'm not converting.
>>25082626Not at all his whole thing is basically opposition to any systematic view of things
>>25080625There's nothing to be gained from reading Jung.
>>25081300He seemed like a Klages wannabe
>>25080818Behaviorism is satanic
>>25082112I don't think you necessarily have to throw out Christian beliefs in order to understand Jung. And stop using the word "performative". You sound female.
>>25082732Not for you, anyway.
>>25082125"Pseud" is a word like "pretentious" - chiefly used by insecure midwits when the conversation goes over their heads.
>>25082085>if the psyche is God to youI didn't say that. Kys yourself.
>>25082759If you think the christianity around this place isn't performative I don't know what to tell you. It's 100% LARP.
>>25082463Good list anon. I think Kastrup's book is probably the best on synchronicity I've read. John Ryan Haule's Jung In The 21st Century also has an original take on synchronicity (tl;dr psyche is a field effect of matter) and Victor Mansfield's Synchronicity, Science, and Soul-making has a Buddhist dependent origination take. Personally I think the idealist Kastrup version is best. The Taoism and Jung paper seems good, I've uploaded it here without the JSTOR paywall for anyone who wants to read it: https://gofile.io/d/P4ZCjCt. 25082112
>>25080734>mesmerismWHY DOES IT ALWAYS COME BACK TO THE GERMANSGERMAN IDEALISM AND ROMANTICISM IS THE REASON THAT CHARLES DARWIN DID EVOLUTIONGERMANSGERMANSGERMANSREEEE GERMANY GET OUT NO LEBENSRAUM IN MY BRAIN
I have not read him, but i hear terms that he uses and they sound gay to me, so i decided not to read him
>>25085053>GERMAN IDEALISM AND ROMANTICISM IS THE REASON THAT CHARLES DARWIN DID EVOLUTIONDo Anglos really want to offload their few genuine accomplishments (like the best: most invulnerable and yet intuitive proof for racism?) If we can get them now to back Hauptmann‘s claim that Shakespeare was a spiritual German that silly little island will have sold off almost its whole reason for existing.
>>25085330Darwin was an admirer of Humboldt and his work. Even had some on the Beagle. Even without Hummer, he was a huge fan of Naturphilosophie. Moat of his i tellectual influences came from german Idealisit backgrounds.
>>25082463>the two being an illusion thats broken when matter and mind sync togetherBrainlet here. Is the how/why what he was trying to find in all his alchemic research / Mysterum Coniunctionis.
>>25080625nkigger i CANNOT read that
>>25084385And in society generally.
Jung said just read The Origin and History of Consciousness if you want to read a proper summary of his works.
>>25080650God, you Mossad agents are tiresome.
>>25083738Ok, name the things you gained reading him.
>>25087246An understanding of my own personal psychology, guidance through my individuation crisis, a greater awareness of projection in myself and others, insights into religion, history and art, a framework for interpreting dreams, and a complete, concise explanation of romantic love, among other human interactions.I guess you missed that stuff, huh?.
>>25080625Im suprised nobody has mentioned Steiner at all? No one else has come this close to matching Jungs body of work in bridging the gap between metaphysics and psychology. Heres his entire archive: https://rsarchive.org/
all psychology and psychoanalyst bullshit is projection from that specific person and nothing else.
>>25089321Jung literally pointed this out. He preempted your limited mind.
