Unironically how do Christians justify the veracity of their religion over the other major ones? How can you not be a relativist when, say, if you were born in Vietnam you'd be a Buddhist, and in Lebanon a Muslim? And in each case you'd ALSO believe that your religion was the true universal one... sounds rather familiar
>>25083023>New Testament is one of the most kino stories ever >Old Testament preserved some near eastern mythos to the modern day that would’ve been otherwise lost due to Hellenization and Zoroastrianization while also providing us with some kino OCs.
>>25083030I'd say they're all different names for the same God but I'd probably get inquisition'd for that at some points in history
>>25083030Of all the world religions, only Christianity and Buddhism are the non jeet-tier choices.Islam could be counted among them if they didn’t decide to revert to barbaric cavemen after the existence of Israel caused them to crash out.
euphοria levels?
>>25083033What? The Old Testament was preserved even after Hellenization. Seven books of the old testament were written in Greek...
>>25083030The entire first half of the Bible is God cursing and blessing different nations.
>>25083030>And in each case you'd ALSO believe that your religion was the true universal one... sounds rather familiarBelieving your own faith is the only pathway to god is not an element in the Dharmic religions like Buddhism. It's primarily found in the Abrahamic cults which is why I consider them demonic and should be wiped from the face of the earth.
>>25083142You people should learn to wipe something else first.
>>25083142Something is true or it is not. An ontological truth does not have five answers. There is at the end of the day only one thing that is right. No, Ranjeesh, having 5,000 different competing gods is not logically coherent.
>>25083173I'm not a jeet. I'm a white American who was raised Catholic. Abrahamism is a mental disease. It spreads rot wherever it goes, including this board it seems.
>>25083177Congratulations, you're now a Jew.
>>25083176The idea that there's only one truth is only right in determining physical, scientific facts. Metaphysical truths are all up to interpretation. You can say there is one Being, or many Beings. That one Being may have many aspects. To pretend that there is not only one being and that only your philosophy has a proper understanding of that Being is called autism.>>25083183That's fine. Just don't call me a zionist.
>>25083142>Believing your own faith is the only pathway to god is not an element in the Dharmic religions like BuddhismThank you anon. I'm ignorant on the subject.I'm now left confused with the expansion of Buddhism, then, for what was its motive if not to proliferate what was seen as the universal (and I infer singular) truth? Which today is present, in different sects, from Japan down to Sri Lanka.
>>25083191Nta, I disagree, metaphysical truths are not subject to opinion. Metaphysical truths are like mathematical truths, and they can be proved in the same way you would prove a mathematical truth. I would agree though the idea of one philosophy holding truth is absurd, there is truth but it doesn't belong to any system or ideology. The problem with universal truth claims coming from religion is that it's self-refuting, how could a universal truth be limited to one guru/prophet, to particular rites or rituals, or be dependent on some specific historical events? It would be like if we made Einstein the prophet for the laws of gravity and said none can understand except through him from now until all time. Although metaphysical truths are not subject to opinion, that won't mean there won't be varying competing models of reality, but it's not any different from other sciences in that regard. So long as we're seeking truth there must be a truth to begin with, otherwise we would only be arguing opinions which would ultimately be pointless. Without a truth there would be no reference point to measure how true or false or something is; and to say there isn't a truth to measure things against would be a self-refutation, for if everything were just relative that would be an absolute.
>>25083191>To pretend that there is not only one being and that only your philosophy has a proper understanding of that Being is called autism.Better to be autistic than wrong, I suppose.
>>25083023Only the New Testament. The Old Testament works great for Jews. Great investment on their part
>>25083211I mean I'm no expert on the subject but I know it first really grew under the patronage of Emperor Ashoka who popularized it throughout India and sent missionaries abroad. From there it gained a foothold in central Asia then spread to China and the rest of the east. Obviously I can't speak for the missionaries but I assume the selling point that Buddhism will release you from suffering and bring contentment with this life is something worth spreading.
>>25083183>Christianity isn't jewish >you're jewish because I reduced jew to mean anyone who's not christian
>>25083232give 1 (one) example of a metaphysical truth
>>25083331God is Good.
>>25083323>Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.Did I stutter, nigger?
>>25083343I am aware that you believe that
>>25083349Good. Glad we could clear the air in this "Bible is the biggest scam in world history" thread.
>>25083332if i don't get to understand that God is evil, then you don't get to understand that God is good
>>25083036>Buddhism, the religion invented by jeets and steeped by jeet terminology and culture is the non jeet religionLol
>>25083030They're different religions with different sets of beliefs. Any Buddhist can become a Christian at any point in time, and the reverse is equally true.What an asinine post.
>>25083331That there is truth, that there is a source of knowledge, that there are laws of logic, that reality is ultimately one and not many, although the many is the emanation of the one.
>>25083036Define "jeet-tier"
>>25083376What is asinine is your know-it-all act and tantrum. Don't reply next time if you haven't got anything to say, fucking moron.
>>25083376Yeah, bitch, either say something or leave.
Christianity is the biggest kike scam eve pulled and I watch in awe as 1488 race war now fags drop to their knees and worship a 2000 year old rabbi.
Rope around your neck. As tight as it goes.
>>25083023Blatant Jew psyop. Only retards would fall for it.
>>25083036>Buddhism isn't jeetBig if true.
>>25083705The biggest retards are the people who hate kikes worshiping one.
>>25083715>le durrr durrr durrr durrrJesus being the "kike" who basically condemned all Jews to hell and ended Judaism as a legitimate religion
>>25083030that question is a major theme of picrel
>>25083752That's right bro! Yeshua ben Yoseph who came from Judea, prayed at the Jewish temple, explicitly said he came to fulfill Jewish law, and only preach to the lost sheep of Israel was not Jewish at all!
>>25083752The irony here is that no people have as much hatred for Christ as the Jews, and these guys allowed vile and evil Jewish behavior to turn them against the Jew's biggest enemy, the very thing that built the Western world they love so dear. It's a form of derangement that I don't understand. If you stand against the wickedness and vile nature of the Jew, the last thing you should be doing is taking a page from the Talmudist playbook and speaking out against our Savior and your fellow "goyim".That Fuentes kid is really onto something when he speaks of "low IQ antisemitism".
>>25083977Fuentes is a gay pedophile. Probably a glowie if I'm being completely honest
>>25083752>Jesus being the "kike" who basically condemned all Jews to hell and ended Judaism as a legitimate religionWhere does the idea of this hyper anti jewish jesus come from? Critiquing your own tribes flaws doesn't mean you want to genocide them/condemn them to the infinity torture dimension. I swear christnats are some of the most mindfucked people on the face of this earth.
since time immemorial the jews were obsessed with being more jewish than their fellow jews, Jesus didn't hate jews he was just doing what they all did.
Almighty and everlasting God, who drivest not away from Thy mercy even the PERFIDIOUS Jews: hear our prayers, which we offer FOR THE BLINDNESS OF THAT PEOPLE: that, acknowledging the light of Thy truth, which is Christ, they may be rescued from their darkness. Through our Lord Jesus Christ, Thy Son, who liveth and reigneth with Thee in the unity of the Holy Ghost, God, world without end. Amen
>>25084053They created a post-hoc fanfiction to fit their other based and redpilled beliefs.>>25083977Different Christian denominations also vehemently hate each other, that does not mean, say, a catholic is a protestant's biggest enemy? The problem with 4chud Christians is they think there's any support in the Bible for jews being ontologically evil as a race when there's not. Here's what actually happened, you already thought jews were an inherently evil and irredeemable race, then you thought "I want to tack on another based belief as a part of my persona", so you became a tradlarper. Your identity is purely reactionary, everyone else is a cringe atheist, so I'm going to be tradcath. Jews are a protected class, therefore jews are evil. That's how you came to such nonsense as thinking a religion which originated in jews and jewish culture was somehow against jews, it would be as if I thought because Luther was against the church that he was against Christianity. If it were true that Christianity was anti-jew, God wouldn't have made an irrevocable covenant with them, they wouldn't be fated to return to him after gentiles come unto him in fullness. Even the "synagogue of satan" bullshit you always spout has nothing to do with racialism, but rather the spiritual blindness of SOME jews; it's like if Luther said catholics call themselves christian and are not, but are the church of satan. The fact is Christianity is open to any jew who converts, open to anyone in fact, the problem was never them as a race according to the Bible, but the fact they turned away from God. What does this mean? It means Christians have nothing against jews as a race, unless you're a larping e-Christian. It makes sense though that Fuentes's words resonate with you given the fact he too is an tradlarper who larps online about tradition and Christianity while being gay. Even he admits though that jesus was jewish, that the original covenant was made with jews, that it still applies, and that jews would be accepted if they just converted.
>>25084150hate each other, does that mean*a tradlarper*
>>25084150>spiritual blindness of SOME jewsAll Jews are spiritually blind. If not, they wouldn’t be Jews.
>>25084158E-Christians really think this despite the authors of the Bible being jewish, jesus himself being jewish, the early Christians being jewish, the fact the covenant with God is still in effect, and that they're prophesized to return to him after gentiles come unto the faith in fullness. It is unfathomable how anyone could think a universalist religion which originated in jews and jewish culture would somehow bar jews. It seriously must be some kind of psychosis brought upon by being terminally online and brainrotted by the culture war.
>>25084164That's debatable, historical dispensationalsm, and modern dispensationalism holds to this view that the people of Israel will be restored, whereas the rest view Israel as the church, the body of believers..But if they're to be "restored" (and I don't think this is the actual biblical language, but whatever, close enough) that does imply that they are not currently in union with a God, and therefore spiritually dead, by your own logic.
>>25084169with God*
>>25084164You keep conflating OT Jews, God’s Chosen People, with the Synagogue of Satan, modern Jews, the spiritual successors of the Pharisees and Sadducees that had Christ crucified. It’s disingenuous gaslighting. You’re a kike.
>>25084169It's not really debateable, if you read romans 11 there's hardly any room for interpretation. >that does imply that they are not currently in union with a God, and therefore spiritually dead, by your own logic.Yes, that's what it says in romans 11, I never denied it, what I'm arguing against is the notion that it says anything about them being inherently fallen as a race. Furthermore, jews have and do convert to Christianity. Bear in mind, the Bible is literally authored by jews and thus it's from the perspective of jews admonishing other jews for not accepting the messiah. In jewish culture jews believe they're fated for a messiah to save them all and some jews believed that was jesus. Of course, rejecting the messiah would be considered one of the biggest heresies from the jewish perspective, as would accepting a false messiah be too.>>25084175Fuck off with your Christian Identity nonsense, tired of you retarded schizos accusing of everyone being a kike despite literally worshipping a jew.
>>25084193They may not be any more unrighteous in the eyes of God as any other unregenerate person, but they're definitely a uniquely pernicious group in regards to the harm they inflict upon the world. People are upset with Jews because of Jewish behavior. In that sense they're uniquely evil. Reviles by the righteous and unrighteous alike.
>>25084193Being a typical, neurotic, paranoid Jew, you are obsessed with discrediting the thing you perceive to be an existential threat: Christianity, and in particular, traditional Catholic orthodoxy. And rightly so, because if you acquiesced to the truth of what Christianity teaches you would cease to be a Jew. You kikes never meet your enemy head on, because you’re outnumbered, and your only pretense of spiritual legitimacy is founded on lies and deception. Therefore, you opt to fight covertly, shapeshifting, projecting, and most importantly, sowing seeds of heresy at every opportunity in order to weaken the moral unity of your opponent. The only way to deal with you people is to come at the throat, and call a spade a spade. Take the mask off, kike.
>>25083030Spengler speaks of this. A religion is more than just a set of values. It is a culture and caring about whether it is "the truth" is a sign of degradation into overly civilized and scientific forms of thinking which lead to sterility and atheism.
>>25084203*Tips my zucchetto towards you* Well said my fellow bretherend in Christ! I will pray for you when I attend 6 am mass with my mother tomorrow! Soon these heretics will see the TRUE power of the church. Deus vult and ave maria!
>>25084218That’s more like it, kike. Stick to shitty satire, but keep your hands the fuck off doctrine.
>>25083036>Islam is jeet-tierMindraped by 9/11 Amerigoy moment.I'm sorry, I prefer the opinion of men the likes of Goethe and Napoleon who admired the Islamic tradition, over that of Americans whose "culture" is the Superblow and blacked porn.
>>25083023Here is a hell NDE compilationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhuHfebMOJ4
>>25084227This guy worships a Jew lmao
>>25084372Jew, yes, but more importantly, God. Those that worship Him are known as Christians. As for the, Jews:>He came unto his own, and his own received him not.Not only did they reject their Messiah and God, they called down a curse upon themselves and their children. How stupid can you get? Answer is, you can’t be any dumber than than an unbelieving Jew.>Pilate saith to them: What shall I do then with Jesus that is called Christ? They say all: Let him be crucified. The governor said to them: Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying: Let him be crucified. And Pilate seeing that he prevailed nothing, but that rather a tumult was made; taking water washed his hands before the people, saying: I am innocent of the blood of this just man; look you to it. And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children.Seethe, kike.
>>25084356I guarantee none of those compilations say they burn in a lake of fire for eternity. Also, non of those people are in hell. "God" took them out of hell so why couldn't he take me out? I'm way past the NDE scam. There are so many contradictions, falsehoods, grifters, and unverifiable claims that they aren't worth looking at to me anymore. I feel like the people who see "Jesus" when they die are suggestable by their culture as well.
>>25084420Jokes on you, I’m Irish :^)
>>25084435Good excuse to flesh out concepts alluded to previously, regardless what species of faggot you are.
>>25084420>all of those words>anyone seething but youType another Bible verse jew lover , I dare ya
>>25084450>It is as sport to a fool to do mischief.
>>25084425> burn in a lake of fire for eternity.They do say that.>none of those people are in hellNot the real final hell which occurs in Revelation; no, it is merely an introduction.> "God" took them out of hell so why couldn't he take me out?There's a purpose; God took them out to warn the people before the final invitation. You are exactly how Jesus described it to the rich man:>“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’>“But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’>“He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’>“Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’>“‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’> “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”>many contradictions, falsehoods, grifters, and unverifiable claimsI am not sure how you want to very such claims; as for contradictions they are pretty consistent as regards to hell. One such NDE claims that in hell there are those who start off in a false Heaven but towards the end their suffering begins though they might have thought that they were in paradise. He offers the suggestion that that is why we have NDEs claiming a different Heaven for everyone or "it doesn't matter what you do as long as you live right". If they would have been dead a little while longer then they would have know the truth.>suggestable by their cultureAtheist goto hell, buddhist goto hell, muslims goto hell, agnostics goto hell, hindus goto hell; what is their shared culture?
>>25084473>There's a purpose; God took them out to warn the people before the final invitation. You are exactly how Jesus described it to the rich man:So what is the purpose of "warning" people when the exact Bible passage you quoted said that if a person doesn't believe in Moses, they won't believe someone who came back from the dead?
>>25083023>Greeks referred to Zeus as Zeus Pater>can translate to either "Lord God" or "God the Father">...the exact names by which God is referred to in the BibleIt's absurd. I guess the tyranny of the church was just that bad, that it takes 2000 years for scholars to begin drawing these connections
>>25084053He literally ended the religion. He told them they were no longer God's chosen people and anyone who persisted in the religion was damned.
>>25084517Amazing. Thousands of year passing, civilizations rising and falling, World Wars, and technological progress all leading up to the moment Jewish hands typed this post.
Playing devil's advocate here (no pun intended), but what if the Bible is a carefully constructed doctrine created by Satan himself to allow 'evil' to disseminate and perpetuate? There are numerous passages that are in direct conflict with rational human behavior ("turn the other cheek", "love your enemies", etc.). What if the true intent is to disarm and pacify the practioner while deceptively providing them with a sense of divine righteousness?
>>25085849What if the inheritance my father left me was actually written into his will by my stepbrother knowing I would ruin my life blowing it all on cocaine and hookers?
>>25084203It's funny reading this schizobabble knowing for a fact that I'm not a jew, and you literally just wrote against a figment of your imagination. The anti-semitism of the 4chud e-Christian is so performative and over the top that it borders absurdity; how are the most vehement, raving anti-semites simultaneously worshipping a jew? Then you realize that those who signal the hardest are just projecting their own insecurities. We see this all the time; they rave against pedos, then it turns out they're a pedo, they virtue signal traditional values, then it turns out they're cheating on their fiance, they constantly accuse you of being a jew, then it turns out they literally worship a jew.
>>25086055>fact that I'm not a jewThen quit writing like one.
>>25084420God is supposed to be omniscient right? Why did he choose them in the Old Testament times knowing they'd turn out the way they did?
>>25086079For the same reason he allowed Adam and Eve to be tempted and fall. So he might ultimately send humanity a savior in his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, the Word Incarnate. >Now to the king of ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honour and glory for ever and ever.
>>25083030>in Lebanon a MuslimImbecile
>>25085891It would be more analogous to your disowned stepbrother writing in you and your siblings names knowing there is a good chance he can it deceive and swindle it from a few of you. No one would suspect he'd be behind the forgery either.
>>25086314But enough about the Reformation…
>>25086162>nooo my irrelevant christcuck minority was unacknowledged
>>25086409>minorityAre you retarded?It's an even split between sunni, shia (gnostic/pagans) and christians. If you're not going to open a book, at least read wikipedia.
>>25086104It sounds like god is a fuckhead who just likes to watch humans fumble around instead of helping them.
>>25086423>70% muslim>30% christian>NOOOO YOU DON'T READ BOOKS BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THE CURRENT METRICS™!! ANTI CHRISTIAN BIAS!!honestly kys pedant retard
>>25084509Not all people know what Moses and the prophets say; it is to call the ones who know the voice of their Lord; some have Satan as their father and they will never want to listen. The others who will listen, but are not aware of their ignorance and yet desire God will listen and become stronger in their faith—some even turning from unbelief to belief
>>25086574It's not pedantry, retard. The shiites and sunnis have so much bad blood between them, going back 1000 years at least, that they are politically closer to the Christians than they are to each other. That's why you can say it's an even split. They do not "gang up" on the Christians because they despise each other.
>>25084205It's always hilarious when religious people just come out and say "yeah, religion is irrational and false" thinking they are defending religion.
The biggest scam in history is actually the heliocentric grabbity globe earth lie
>>25087221Too based for this flat world.
>>25083023How is tricking brutes & perverts into behaving themselves a bad idea?
>>25085849Judge a tree by its fruits. The fruits of Christianity were the best in the world
>>25086409>>25086574I think you genuinely need to kill yourself. You're too illiterate to say anything of value and too stupid to understand that that means you should stop posting.
>>25087849What "fruits" are you talking about exactly and how would you ascribe them all to Christianity in particular?
>>25087878you're really upset gay boyreply to me calling me illiterate if you speak more than 3 languages like me, and once you've read chateaubriand's itinéraire. i know more about the christians of the middle east than you know about your tradcath e-celeb lore.christianity can best be explained by a psychological inadequacy towards sex. so let me guess, you're a former porn addict? fucking kek. go watch pax tube and kys
>>25083023Total materialist death
>>25089059Are you referring to their material body being dead? Sounds like the materialists win again.
>>25084164>the fact the covenant with God is still in effectUtterly false. This is a heresy.>It seriously must be some kind of psychosis brought upon by being terminally online and brainrotted by the culture warFalse. It's Biblical, and has been the teaching since the time of the Apostles, and reaffirmed by the Councils. The fact that you are ignorant of this is an indication of your brainrot because the teaching has been repeated daily for the last 2000 years.The Catholic Church dogmatically declared at the Council of Florence that to observe the Mosaic Law after the promulgation of the Gospel is a mortal sin and those who do are alien to the Christian faith and face eternal damnation (pic related).The ceremonies of the Old Law pointed to Christ. To observe them after the promulgation of the gospel is to deny indeed that Christ has come and fulfilled them, as St. Thomas Aquinas has pointed out:>“...the ceremonies of the Old Law foreshadowed Christ as having yet to be born and to suffer: whereas our sacraments signify Him as already born and having suffered. Consequently, just as it would be a mortal sin now for anyone, in making a profession of faith, to say that Christ is yet to be born, which the fathers of old said devoutly and truthfully; so too it would be a mortal sin now to observe those ceremonies which the fathers of old fulfilled with devotion and fidelity. Such is the teaching Augustine (Contra Faust. Xix, 16)...”Summa Theologica, Pt. I-II, Q. 103, A. 4>universalist religionCorrect. The Catholic Church is Christ's one universal Church. Catholic (katholikos) is Greek for Universal.Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, Constitution 1, 1215, ex cathedra:>“There is indeed one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which nobody at all is saved, in which Jesus Christ is both priest and sacrifice.”>would somehow bar jewsIt doesn't bar Jews. God desires all men to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-6), but the Catholic Church dogmatically teaches that there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church. This has been repeatedly proclaimed by Popes from the Chair of St. Peter.Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441, ex cathedra:>"The holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her."
>>25083030>over the other major onesJerusalem being Egypt, Sodom and Babylon, the killer of prophets-- and finally to Jesus whom had to flee to Egypt, only to return to be narc'd on by scribblers in the fatuous name of Caesar - under Pilate's obvious exasperated unwilling disgust with them - is the biggest typological "Fuck You perfidious retards" in all of world history, which subsequent events down to nuclear proliferation to the Soviets and Rape Island(s) continue to bear out.
