is paradise lost even goodwhat's so great about it
when you are done with it and telling someone you have read it, that's the best part
>>25085126Nobody does that
>>25085127maybe, I don't knowI have a really nice edition I got for Christmas by the way
ABASHED THE DEVIL STOODAND FELT HOW AWFUL GOODNESS IS
It's basically Egyptian mythology with Hebrew names.Aka soft gnosticism
>>25084562Paradise Lost is one of those rare works of genius that is totally original in almost everything it does. The poetry is at the absolute summit of musical refinement, the story is grander in scope than any other, and in no other English author does the aesthetic of the sublime assume such intensity of expression as in Milton. But the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and it would be impossible to gather an accurate impression of Milton's genius by cobbling these three qualities together. Some people find him intolerably learned and boring, others find him overpoweringly sensual and exciting. However you feel about him, he holds his place among the greatest and most influential poets of the English language, and as such deserves to be read.
>>25085211>totally original in almost everything it doesMy brother how can you say a retelling of one of the most famous stories ever with a style and tone borrowed from one of the most famous writers ever with much of the content drawn from readily available theology is totally original??
>>25084562>is paradise lost even goodread it and find out, OP
>>25085293Copy and paste this into about 80% of the non-/pol/-bait threads on the board and the board dies permanently. How little people discuss the actual contents of books. The authors and their histories.
>>25085242The story of Paradise Lost is almost entirely original, the 'tone' barely resembles Shakespeare at all (if that's who you mean) and the 'content' of the poem cannot be boiled down to theology, just as the 'content' of any great poem cannot be reduced to a philosophy, albeit undeniably Milton's theology is highly unorthodox and the product of an original mind.
>>25085324>The story of Paradise Lost is almost entirely original,Nta, but they probably meant the parts retelling Genesis.
>>25085495Artistically speaking, the story of Genesis only has the most superficial resemblance to Paradise Lost and it is beyond retarded to bring it up as a refutation of the latter's originality. If Paradise Lost is not considered an original story then every story is relegated to unoriginality.
>>25085324I was mostly referring to borrowing the tone from Homer, continuing in an immediately recognizable tradition, and relying highly upon theological exposition for content, which is impersonal and therefore unoriginal in my opinion.
>>25085526Every great artist appears in a recognisable tradition. A great artist cannot exist outside of a recognisable tradition. Homer came out of a recognisable tradition. Although I don't see how that's an argument for Homer's and Milton's 'style and tone' being similar, implying a cultural and technical resemblance (especially with that less vague word 'style') that just doesn't exist. As for relying on theological exposition, why should that be considered 'impersonal'? As said before, Milton's theology is already highly unique, and its expression in the poem is perfectly natural and no less creative than any other part of the poem. You might as well say the appearance of a rhyming moralism in Shakespeare is an example of unoriginality because its sentiment is borrowed from Renaissance philosophy.
>>25084562The story is retarded, the theology is nonsensical, and the characters are stiff, but the music and imagery are pretty great
some parts are excellent, the rest is pretty good. worth reading unless you're some adhd gamer who needs dopamine signals activated every 20 seconds
>>25084562one of the supreme productions of the human mind but nobody ever sat down to read it for fun
>>25085724>The story is retardedI love the part where Jesus turns into General Patton, leads the angels into battle and kick's Satan's sorry ass, despite not actually being born yet.
WHAT THOUGH THE FIELD BE LOST? ALL IS NOT LOST: THE UNCONQUERABLE WILL AND THE STUDY OF REVENGE, IMMORTAL HATEAND THE COURAGE TO NEVER SUBMIT OR YIELD. AND WHAT IS ELSE NOT TO BE OVERCOME?Talk about a chip on a shoulder.
>>25084562I love it. Read it 10+ times. Just bought a poncy folio edition of it, and I've been reading it aloud to my sister (which I've never done for anyone, before).Very pleased.
>>25084562I have been trying to get into "high lit" are Paradise Lost and The Divine Comedy are the two big ones I havent read yet. Oh, and the Aeneid. nvm I'm still a pseud lol
>>25087351If you had remembered the metre you wouldn't have misquoted it.
>>25084562What other book explains the act of creation in more detail than the Bible and reconnects the New Testament with the Old Testament in a way that connects all dots and finds all missing links that necessarily need to exist for Christianity?
>>25087562I fart on your metre and in your general direction. You have no meaning, for there is no misquotation. Go bother your mother.
>>25084562Paradise Lost is the greatest work of English literature. Line by line, it has more beauty than any other book.
>>25084562You wouldn't get it.
>>25084562Satan and his band of fallen angels are poetic characters and Milton’s verse perfectly elucidates it, but Milton’s own experience and suffering the collapse of his political regime made him perfectly embellish every and any aspect of rage and revenge seeking fallen heroes who feel betrayed by god.All the gabriel with adam and eve chatting is totally mid. Paradise lost is only good for the Satan verses.
>>25084562I honestly found it to be amazing. The story (bible) is good, the poetry is absolutely beautiful, and the characters are interesting (no not just Satan, but the relationship of Adam and Eve too).Honestly the best English poetry i have ever read. I have only ever given two works a 10/10 out of everything I have consumed, its Paradise Lost and Metamorphoses (Ovid).
>>25087856>midthe rationalisations of Adam. mid? Eve's lament. mid? Gabriels summary of past and future on a metaphysical scale. mid? surely you must be joking.
the war in heaven is top 10 anime battles tier
>>25085526>not VirgilCome on now, Milton even changed things up in the revision so that PL would have the same number of books as the Aeneid.
Arise, awake, or be forever fall'n
>>25085127gamers do that
