Books about how usury conquered the world?
it turns out being able to rent money is useful
>>25085403But killing your enemies and having slaves is also useful.
>>25085405>conflating consensual and nonconsensual stuffnice try low iqoid, not to mention owning slaves actually isn't that useful which is why slave states went extinct
>>25085411But nobody wants to pay an interest to take a loan. They are forced to, there is no other option allowed. It's nonconsensual. It's coercive.
>>25085411slave states never went extinct tho, just look at asia, africa, etc.
>>25085403>>25085411Judaizing shill. Usury apologist. Massive fag.
>>25085416so don't take a loan? damn u are dumb lol
>>25085420you don't have to sign your posts here
>>25085421people are forced to take loans to live
>>25085425you were forced to take a loan to live? heh skill issue maybe
>>25085421Usury and sodomy go hand and hand: sterile perversions crying to heaven for vengeance. Usurers and sodomites should get the rope, as well as (you).
no more usury. no more 'interest'
>>25085431Usury is a sin, and you’re a shilling kike.
>>25085439so if u can't use debt financing then u have to give up equity to raise capital which is literally giving away your company. google just sold 100 year bonds to pay for their new ai spending lol i don't see anyone crying about it. grow up dude.
>Usury [...] Christendom>HoffmanCome on, man.
>>25085399David Graeber, Debt
>>25085446Of course no one will shed a tear for Google. Usury sucks the life blood from a nation’s HOUSEHOLDS, leaving only the creditor and their goodest goys with everyone’s money at the end of the game.
>>25085446i see your point, but society has warped and become disfigured around allowing usury. it can adapt and change around disallowing it, with all the second, third, and fourth order effects becoming more unpredictable. I believe it would be much better
To take usury for money lent is unjust in itself, because this is to sell what does not exist, and this evidently leads to inequality which is contrary to justice. In order to make this evident, we must observe that there are certain things the use of which consists in their consumption: thus we consume wine when we use it for drink and we consume wheat when we use it for food. Wherefore in such like things the use of the thing must not be reckoned apart from the thing itself, and whoever is granted the use of the thing, is granted the thing itself and for this reason, to lend things of this kin is to transfer the ownership. Accordingly if a man wanted to sell wine separately from the use of the wine, he would be selling the same thing twice, or he would be selling what does not exist, wherefore he would evidently commit a sin of injustice. On like manner he commits an injustice who lends wine or wheat, and asks for double payment, viz. one, the return of the thing in equal measure, the other, the price of the use, which is called usury.On the other hand, there are things the use of which does not consist in their consumption: thus to use a house is to dwell in it, not to destroy it. Wherefore in such things both may be granted: for instance, one man may hand over to another the ownership of his house while reserving to himself the use of it for a time, or vice versa, he may grant the use of the house, while retaining the ownership. For this reason a man may lawfully make a charge for the use of his house, and, besides this, revendicate the house from the person to whom he has granted its use, as happens in renting and letting a house.Now money, according to the Aristotle (Ethic. v, 5; Polit. i, 3) was invented chiefly for the purpose of exchange: and consequently the proper and principal use of money is its consumption or alienation whereby it is sunk in exchange. Hence it is by its very nature unlawful to take payment for the use of money lent, which payment is known as usury: and just as a man is bound to restore other ill-gotten goods, so is he bound to restore the money which he has taken in usury.
>>25085403God’s word is beneath petty human concerns as usual. Christfags believe he told his followers to sell everything and give to the poor, Paul tells people to not take wives because the end is so near, but actually j/k guys, that was a metaphor or something, capitalism rocks, fuck the poor, fuck immigrants because he also said “give unto Caesar” and even though that’s an extremely narrow meaning related to taxation to avoid a theological trap and not moral guidance, we will say Jesus meant to say greed is good. Religion is a joke even to the people who claim to believe it.
>>25085527Everything you wrote is a lie and distortion. Your Jewish carnival’s days are numbered.>Therefore because you trample on the poor and you exact taxes of grain from him, you have built houses of hewn stone, but you shall not dwell in them; you have planted pleasant vineyards, but you shall not drink their wine4 chan is infested with you glowniggers, it’s ridiculous.
If the banks instead of interest charged the "technical administration fee" and the cost was 1:1 would that make usury go away?Islamic banking does this.
>>25085399>Barren Metal, E. Michael Jones>The Enchantments of Mammon: How Capitalism Became the Religion of Modernity
>Eeeey, ya think I'm some kinda kike, huh? Get outta here, ya bum! No, the vig ain't got no interest, see? Just so happens, ya gotta be a month late, capiche? Then we tack on a little 'surcharge' to what ya owe. And if ya pay on time... well, let's just say ya might be singin' soprano for a while, see?
>>25085457This and Michale Hudson's ...and forgive them their debts
>>25085399Usury has always been typical in Asia
>>25086366And asia has always been a shithole. Coincidence? Think not.
>>25085399Bassically Marx.
>>25086366Emperors in china used to castrate their bankers so they don't procreate.
>>25085399the sequel to the jewish revolutionary spirit
>>25086459i'll accept the chinese occupying the US in exchange for this
here's a short video on the bookhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erkkt08BSPAhere's an interview with the author (who died under suspicious circumstances)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAz4e_3Atu0
>>25085420Nobody is forced to participate in usury.>>25085424Kek.
>>25086445>>25086459I was making an l/r pronunciation joke.
>>25085425Objectively wrong.People take loans to live beyond their means. It's their funeral.
>>25085432t. trust fund baby who will inherit his parent's house and never need a mortgage
>>25085460>society has warped and become disfigured around allowing usuryChiefly due to low interest rates. Central banks are the ultimate culprits here.As usual, state intervention fucks up the economy.
>>25085469DIDN'T READ LMAO
>>25085399(1) print money and lend it out. women only sleep with rich men who participate and get laws changed to allow them to abandon their husbands and get with rich men(2) the money is worthless whoops haha. women and girls sell ass directly to the few men who have anythingbasically the way societies are destroyed by usury is that women are greedy
>>25085403>>25085431>>25086475>t. Same fag, samefagging
>>25086642>he doesn't know how to detect samefagsYou have to go back.
>>25086644Nah, samefag. Quit shitting all over it. Usury is bad btw
>>25085469>To take usury for money lent is unjust in itself, because this is to sell what does not existnot even once sentence in and already stupid af. aristotle had a lot of dumb ideas.
>>25085399It’s the consumers who drive usury.Anyone who has sold cars knows this.You are not the one talking the abuela into the 30% interest rate.She is the one calling you a racist and threatening to sue and beating down your door for not getting her a bank approval to get her into that used bmw with 145k miles on it at 30% IR (rolling in 10k of negative equity).Credit criminals will always find a way to seek out money they can’t pay back for things they don’t need.
>>25086726well that's why the interest rate is so high on shit like that, the more dead beats they have to loan to the more they have to charge to make for all the ppl who won't pay it back. i live in a walkable city so never bought a car in my life, but why wouldn't u just pay cash? can't u get a used car for like 10k?
>>25086726>Credit criminals will always find a way to seek out money they can’t pay back for things they don’t need.credit criminals are the only people whose lives improve with usury. everyone else just sees the prices of what they need inflated because stuff gets bid up to unaffordable
>>25086739and so you think lower interest rates would make assets more affordable? mhmm
>Have money>Someone else needs money>Offer them money for a time if they provide a fee (which covers risk/allows to potentially offer to more people in the future)That's it. Everything else is Jews and /pol/ touching dicks.
>>25086753if the only way you can get a cute wife and smart blue eyed kids is by selling yourself into debt slavery to gamble for a chance at it, then the next generation of smart blue eyed kids are the children of debt slaves. the problem is that women are greedy, stupid, and need lobotomy healthcare
>>25086771if you're so smart and blue eyed why are you financially illiterate? you would know how to use "other people's money" effectively.
>>25086470Is youtube forcing the mobile embed on everything now?
>>25085411Fractional reserve lending is essentially counterfeiting. More specifically, it's defrauding everyone in the world that possesses any of the currency being lent. Making a living off fraud is not morally superior to making a living off slavery.
>>25086780the problem is, without girls being given to financially stable men by their fathers and being beaten and forcibly impregnated by those men, if a man doesnt want to live beyond his means, he wont reproduce and all his living within his means will be meaningless. in fact, if he does manage to beg a woman to carry his child, she can steal everything hes accumulated by living within his means by going to a divorce judge. usury works because women are evil whores who need to be beaten with sticks, by stopping the men whose responsibility it is to take care of women from beating them with sticks. the taliban survived 20 years of occupation because they werent stopped from beating women with sticks
>>25086622I swear, the only thing you people caee about is sex
>>25087260(1) as aquinas ii-i q2a1 quotes [Eccl 10], all things obey money(2) women are things, not people like ai agents
>>25086459Based. TOTAL JEW CASTRATION
only low iq get pwned by usury
>>25086366Found the CIA kike.
>>25085399>That Schiller Institute article>Stephen Mitford Goodson>On Paolo Sarpi and Venice
>>25085399>it's le usury>it's hollywood>it's libido dominandi>it's judaism>it's satan/moloch/baal/Sabbatean FrankismIt's Jews as a race/ethnic groupEverything else is secondaryRead Kevin MacDonald and John Mearsheimer and stop posting cringe
>>25085399Loans-at-interest and central banks are good actually as long as they're properly regulated. That's why we have them.Jews have economic power because they historically monopolized a number of key industries, loaning at interest was only a foot in the door provided by Vatican's ban on Christians doing the same.
>>25086661Are you still here? I told you to go back.
>>25088209Central banks are political tools, and are responsible for fucking up all the western economies.Politicians want low interest rates. Central banks deliver them. Then everybody borrows what they can't afford and assets inflate to the moon.I actually sympathise with the zoomers over this. They were locked out of the property market by the politicisation of interest rates.
>>25088462They're tools. It's good to have them in the tool-box. You just need to have the right people in charge using the tools in the right way. In general, low interest rates make people happier and healthier in my understanding, but I'm not an economist
>>25088693*wealthier, not healthier
>>25088462the fed is politically independent. didn't u see trump trying to pressure powell to lower rates all year? idk what the case is in europe but from what i understand the european central bank is essentially controlled by germany (they are the strongest and largest economy so makes sense i guess) and the shitty med economies like greece are just along for the ride. should have thought of that before joining the eu i guess.
>>25088131>>25086476it's a joke you dip
>>25086735It still doesn’t pay out. People know what happens if they don’t pay their debts back. If they just choose to do it anyway (ie barring some major illness which the banks account for) they’re a lifer.All day every day I have to listen to these types blame their spouse, the state, their boss, and… it just goes on forever.The one rule is you can’t talk them down. You can’t convince them to be modest and live modestly within their means. They will always max out what they think they will get approved for and live like slaves paying down 25% on a car note they couldn’t cover at 7%. They will lie to you and the bank and you can’t do anything about it.If you try and refuse they will report you to your superior, allege prejudice, fuck your survey (annd thus your check), etc.Why they are like this I do not know. But credit is a rare example where the people and not the corpos are the villains.I will again submit that we should have a hybrid economic system where you’re placed under communism if your FICO falls below 600. This really would solve most if not all societies problems. Some people are simply unfit to manage their own resources, and should be treated by the state like children - because that is exactly what they are.
>>25088754oh no i agree there are a lot of people that just cannot use credit responsibly. i get woken up in the middle of the night to the sound of their cars getting winched onto repo trucks periodically. very annoying. if you work at white castle, don't buy a fucking gigantic suv that gets 10 miles per gallon. you live in the city, you don't need a truck that could fit a pony in the back.
>>25088438Still here, you samefag. Quit doing that on my board. Usury is bad and I contributed a book to the discussion. All you’ve done is slide and same fag.
>>25088799>still doesn't know how to detect samefagsI mean, how long have you had by now?lrn24chan newfag.
>>25088702>the fed is politically independentLMAO
>>25088693>You just need to have the right people in charge using the tools in the right way.LOL, no shit, But politicians are in charge, so this never happens.
>>25088980trump appointed powell too dude, and just look at gold fall off a cliff after he announced warsh, it's a good pick.
