This is the single greatest book I've read. Yet every review of this book talks about bullshit like fascism and militarism. This book centres on a single question that grows louder through the book:>Am I my brother's keeper?Is it your job to make sure other people are safe and happy? If it isn't, who else will do it?Unironically the best book I've read.
bro that reminds me i should chow a thc gummy and watch the movie i haven't seen it since the 90s bro
>>25086658Dizzys small saggy tits get better the older you get
>>25086658i just watched it again last week, it's on youtube
>>25086801i got the 4k hdr on my apple tv account, that reminds me the other movies i watched at that chick's house in the 90s were fifth element, also fire, and umm, interview with a vampire, but don't remember it, i think we fucked, and oh yeah, lost highway which was new.
Is this book hard to find? For some reason it feels like it would be hard to find bc of le fascism
>>25086634I just read stranger in a strange land recently, this is on the list for upcoming reads thanks for the reminder maybe I’ll pick it up next
you are 12 and this is deep
>>25086634It had a huge influence on me. Don’t ever want to hear about the farce of a movie again. I find it funny that leftards read, or can’t even handle reading like in the case of Verhoeven (because they believe “fascism” is an infectious eldritch cognitohazards) a story about taking responsibility and screech about how evil it is. Especially taking into consideration Heinlein’s other works.
>>25086787I will now not watch your movie
>>25086634I've been reading/collecting a bunch of Heinlein lately. About to read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. I recommend The Puppet Masters if you haven't read it yet.
>>25086964I read Number of the Beast years ago, and thought it was kind of self indulgent with a non-ending. then I found Search for the Pankara, which is the exact same book to a point - it's an earlier draft. and it's worse.
>>25086634Are you 11 years old? What a stupid post to make about a YA boy scout novel written to motivate American youth to enlist in the next Korean-type war in East Asia.If this is the level of your literary taste then stick to the (much better) movie.
>>25086917Both the book and movie are unapologetically fascist. The book is not good: boring, sexless, YA. The movie is good: a deeply erotic love triangle, sensual torture of bodies, a band of brothers war epic, passion, agony, sacrifice, and valour---none of which is in the book.
>>25087137kys yourself
>>25086964Heinlein was my jam growing up, but he's just a misogynist stuck in 1950s women should be secretaries harem fantasy to the point I can no longer even read anything by him.>>25086634Maybe fascism isn't wrong. >>25086658>>25086787I hope you're being ironic the movie misses the point more than OP. >>25087123>>25087137Either you didn't get the point or I don't understand what fascism means in today speak. The book is about the political necessity of having a faceless "them" to prop up right-wing (not today's version) government. The Korean war and stamping out endless bug people for the "good" of democratic tribalism? It's why liberals can never succeed, they don't do faceless pointless war against bugs.
>>25087384Use your words
Troopers was written to be part of Heinlein's juvenile series of books for Scribner's. The editors there were appalled and refused to publish it.
>25087404nice spacing kek
>>25086634black metal lyrics are a thousand times more provocative than this literary equivalent of green plastic toy soldiers.
>>25086634>bullshit like fascism and militarismUh, the militarism is front and centre.
>>25086964>The Moon is a Harsh MistressPeak Heinlein.>>25087404>the movie misses the pointIt's a satire, dumbass. Clearly 2subtle4u.
>>25088347How can one satirise a book one hasn’t read?
>>25087404I'm using the term fascism loosely, as it is used, even more loosly, today. It would be more correct to say a hyper-millitaristic republicanism, that limits power and franchise to soliders and veterans, and valourises war and service as it greatest social ideals. You and I, and other intelligent people, can obviously distinguish that from fascism proper, but there is enough overlap that the label is not mere pejorative.There is no satire in either the book or novel. Both are sincere and earnest advocates for their worldview: the movie effectively, the book for 12 year old boys.
>>25088347>>25088708Both dumb and very stupid lies that only an utter rube would take seriously.
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>>25086634I haven't read it since I was young, mainly what I remember about it was how amazingly dry it was, especially for a book about space Marines in robot armor fighting giant bugs.
>>25087404take any heinlein text and reverse the gendersit's hilarious
>>25089122Verhoeven literally did not read the book, man.
>>25089436And you believe that? Come on, don't be so dumb. It's sprezzatura to wave away the anxiety of influence. The book is a three hour long YA novel.
