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This can't be reality.
All the religious, philosophical and scientific ideas we have to encompass it don't even seem to being to scratch the surface of what is actually there.
Thousands of years of western academics and no one realized anything. The final response was it was all relative and then we fucked off to plug into VR gooner headsets.
Retards backtracking 500 years ago to try and see where we went off the track, but it's just the same old nothing that already didn't work once.
No one has anything new that matters. No one has connected anything old in any way that matters.
What's the point? Why are we in flesh? We will all die and never know, and probably be reincarnated as gnats.
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>>25093499
The first step on the path to Gnosis.
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>>25093499
>Falling for post-modern nihilism this hard
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>>25093507
You literally have no alternative.
Not one. You have 0 solid answers for a path to head down.
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>>25093513
I do. But are you ready for it? You seem very attached to these ideas and your negative feelings about them.
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>>25093499
Read the mystics.
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>>25093499
sometimes the absence of something speaks as loudly as a presence might.

if you started from a place of calm, detached awareness and looked toward that void where a coherent meaning structure might exist, what would that absence say to you or ask of you?
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>>25093539
No you don't. If you had one you would have presented it to society already and we would be following it. Instead you have your personal philosophy that you have made worked for you, every dime a dozen retard has one of those. Even I have one of those that makes me happy on a day to day basis. Doesn't have anything to do with what I'm discussing.
>>25093541
I have. You can't form a cohesive society around any mystical text.
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>>25093570
have you considered the possibility that there might be one that most people have at least some access to, but that it’s ephemeral enough that nobody wants to hold it up to the light since its energy is already being used to its limit just to maintain people’s ability to carry on, and nobody bothered explaining it to you because they can tell that you will do your utmost to subject every piece of it to deep scrutiny and pull more energy from it than it can afford; and nobody even bothered explaining more than thin slivers of it to anyone who cared about you enough that they would then explain it to you, because the people around you aren’t too dissimilar from you?
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>>25093576
But that's kinda the point. You can rehash some prajnaparamita-lite for all eternity if you want, but nothing is moving the ball of human development forward and the only answer people continue to offer is a backwards look in hopes of grasping the same straws that those who seemed to be grasp the slippery fish for even a few seconds in antiquity. look huffing the fumes of a time and place utterly disconnected from our current reality will not allow you to tap into that reality yourself, not saying you're doing this but this is only solution we are offered.
We are less and less capable of grasping the empheral even enough to pass on the ability to spot when it appears to later generations, and no one can present any solution to this most world ending of problems.
Maybe it's always been this way.
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>>25093499
>All the religious, philosophical and scientific ideas we have to encompass it don't even seem to being to scratch the surface of what is actually there.
Why wouldn't this be the case? It takes one 180 IQ scientist a lifetime of study to master one (1) field, and there's tens of those. We're great apes that evolved some advanced (relative to the other species of the planet) pattern recognition and abstraction capabilities, and even with those two faculties wouldn't have produced any longstanding scientific and philosophical traditions had it not been for our tribal nature (which allows human knowledge to be stored and continuously amended) and for the happy accident in Ancient Greece that was a result of the right societal norms and the right genetic predisposition of a tiny group of people, which kickstarted the whole ordeal.
It's gonna be a long road before we figure out what's really out there. I wouldn't stress too much about it; it's not like we can meaningfully alter this course in our lifetimes.
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>>25093570
You perceive a lack of meaning but that's dishonest. You find meaning in your own suffering. You're deeply invested in it. You would sooner run back to it than consider there might be something else. How could there be anything else? That would make your suffering meaningless! You've trapped yourself in this recursive fallacy, a living hell where you are both tortured and torturer. The real kicker is you could choose differently at any time. All you have to do is walk out the door. It was always unlocked. You were always free to leave. It's wide open right now. Will you walk out? Or will you choose as you have countless times before? Time is if the essence here anon. You only have until you're dead.
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>>25093584
no, you’re right, and it hasn’t always been this way. I pushed myself deep into psychosis looking for an answer last year, and all I managed to do was ruin my life.

I don’t know what we do from here. Heidegger said that only a god can save us, but as we become, as you say, less and less capable of apprehending the ephemeral, our capacity to be open and respond to any god that might present itself is diminishing.

on the other hand, it’s easy to underestimate how much everyone is aware of this problem and is responding by willingly living empty lives, not because they’re NPCs, but because they’re carefully preserving the few narrow spaces where hope can still coherently speak.
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>>25093499
>thinks his problems are unanswerable
>is literally reenacting a book from the Bible unwittingly.
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>>25093499
Should have listened to the phenomenologists.
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>and? The fuck you gonna do about it? I know im talking tough and dont know shit either and had many sleepless nights over this, but i came to my personal conclusion with >pic related
that solves nothing at all but lets me cope atleast, maybe consider the same
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>>25093584
>human
Abandon this globohomo ethic first of all
There are dozens of hominids with very little in common spiritually
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>a touch-more-civilised monkey gifted with consciousness immediately enters nihilism mode when confronted with reality
a common occurrence
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>>25093741
maybe try to offer something more than some smug remark that doesnt add anything meaningful



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