Have you ever noticed that modern 4chan pretty much promotes unironic orc mentality? Consider what the most common and acceptable traits among anons are:>glorifies barbarism and violence>incapable of sincere feeling but outwardly acts zealous for some cause>hateful of the world's flaws but justifies these flaws in self>rejects the ways of civilization>rejects scientific achievement>rejects art>only has love for things that are ugly (soijaks) or soulless (AIslop)Modern 4chan is at least 50% these things, if not more. When did most people here subconsciously decide that orcs were the good guys?
building something is a lot harder than taking something apart and a lot of these people have few other avenues for personal agency beyond shitting something up. the ideologies that come with that may take a variety of exact shapes, but they are all reverse-engineered to view such destruction as a positive act.
>Modern
Many zoomers (Brown and uncultured with an inferiority complex) and spics/poojeets
>>25118570Russoid mindset yeah. Kremlin paid for it.
>>25118570>the average anon hates Niggers because he desires their vitality>the average anon hates Jews because he desires their powerWow, you don't say OPAlso, Girard speaks of this.
>>25118956You're trying too hard to be a poojet or troon.
>>25118960Watch him recoil when truth splashes against his face-skin, sizzling and dancing thereabout as water on a hot black skillet
>>25118965You just proved how disgusting (and midwit) you are, goomerfag.
>>25118969poor anon. The troon hates women, the Jeet, his master. And you? Me
>>25118974I just don't like gay French guys. It's not exactly hate. You just don't know how to clean yourselves properly.
>>25118976We are so very close, you and I, almost the same person.
>>25118956The most demonically charged post I've seen all day.
>>25118570* civilization means taxes to fund police, which exist for the purpose of separating white children from their fathers and helping white women to abuse their would-be husbands* theres always someone else who can do the science. getting nerd sniped into wasting time on science when you should be focused on war is what the jews want for the intelligent white men who cant be suppressed in school
>>25118985Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the Satan, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
>>25119001thats you tbo
>>25118570You can't seriously be trying to rewrite and repackage the term "troll".
>>25119005Log in my eyeMote in yoursThank you kindly
>>25119001You are the epitome of cringe.
>>25118570Jaks are modern art thoughbeitI do agree there's too much mean spirited posting on 4chan these days however
>>25118953Russia is based.How is the weather tel aviv?
>>25118570Zug zug
>>25118570Interesting. So, how would you recommend we move into human civilization on this board/site?
>>25118570Have you ever noticed that this applies to people in general, normalfags especially? They just have the cultural protocols and outlets for it so it's controlled and directed where le they want. Normalfags are those orcs that Saruman orders around through ritual and hype, 4chan is a rogue band of deserter orcs that loot random villages far away from Mordor.What I'm more interested in is - which board is which race?
>>25119032>I do agree there's too much mean spirited posting on 4chan these days howeverI agree with this as well. Everyone seems to be at each others throat, instead of building an elevated online culture. Would having a general about "western high culture" or "civilization" help, or would it just die like so many other attempted generals? Maybe the slight isolation could help?
>>25118988>you should be focused on warWhy?
>>25118953this
>>25118570>glorifies barbarism and violence 4channers are against barbaric immigrationNot reading the rest of your retarded post
>>25118976kindred spirit!
>>25119181pretty good
>>25119487>instead of building an elevated online cultureI have been on 4chan since the beginning and there have only been very rare instances of "elevated culture" here. Mostly it's just a lot of stupid shit.
>>25118570Only on paper, not in real life; those are provocateur traits based on nihilistic desire of total annihilation that are quite common and circulating around here for years. Normies saw that and mindbroke themselves over these stream of new information to their minds Now you see people in real life get easily provocated by these things and become the agents of 4cuck nihilistic idea; social media has become a total disaster ever since normies started posting 4ch greenies screencap under the names of 'comedy' and 'parody', hundreds and thousands of /pol/ document and infographics are being distributed on social media and read by normies, curious normies are accessing the archive and tried to look into something substantial and relevant to boost and corroborate their ideology that are stemmed from this thing and so on. It only the matters of time until these normies started to rally on street or do some stupid things because of this constant stream of provocation to their zogbrain. This is what the novel Demons is about. There's no difference in the methodology that the group of five did with their pamphlets to sphigulin factory workers and what this site did with their post/infographics to twitter/social media normies right now.
>>25118570>4chan is one personS-stop...
>>25118570>>glorifies barbarism and violence>>incapable of sincere feeling but outwardly acts zealous for some cause>>hateful of the world's flaws but justifies these flaws in self>>rejects the ways of civilization>>rejects scientific achievement>>rejects art>>only has love for things that are ugly (soijaks) or soulless (AIslop)I feel like that's just most of the world in general right now. Like, things were so nice only about 15 years ago. And then we decided that's all lame and gay and ended up with all that anti-humanist, anti-intellectual bullshit we have now.
>>25120411Movie did the right thing.
>>25120718It was all fraudulent back then; it was merely a facade. Accepting that is the key to building things that are true, good, and beautiful for real.
>>25120740>It was all fraudulent back then; it was merely a facade. Probably, but it was all I ever knew.
>>25120743Well you're an adult now. Time to face the truth, even if it gives you pain. And build a better world to replace the one that was lost.
>>25120718It's been a long time coming. Humanism played a major role in exactly what you're talking about by advancing a voluntaristic notion of freedom where freedom is just power/potency, which in turn pits Goodness, Truth, and Beauty in opposition to freedom.
>>25118570>glorifies barbarism and violenceBarbarism is subjective and violence is as it has always been a means to an end. We live in times where insincerity, dishonesty, and dishonor are greater than ever before. All other forms of problem solving and power have failed. Now is the time to show that words mean nothing unless backed up by action. That gold and networks are but a vehicle to secure the true source of power, iron and blood. >incapable of sincere feelingDo not attribute to all what you see among a specific subset, the irony poisoned may seem numerous and all encompassing but the reality is that they are few, they just never stop and have to do everything and anything to fill the gaping maw that is their psyche. A never ending quest for fulfillment and validation which they create by not addressing the root of their problems.>hateful of the world's flaws but justifies these flaws in selfOnce again attributing an issue with some to all. But I will say that at what point is it that the world is the problem and not the individual. I am not perfect, I am a man who is flawed and seeks to do as much as I can to get rid of or at the very least mitigate my worst traits. But at what point do my problems cease to be my own and become the fault of society? Yes one can use that as a convenient excuse to not improve or strive for positive change. But it can just as well be said that a problem can be the fault of the world itself.>rejects the ways of civilizationAnd what ways would those be exactly? >only has love for things that are ugly (soijaks) or soulless (AIslop)This is something that I cannot defend even in terms of the devils advocate, well I could but I do not wish to as it would go against who I am as a person. However I will say this, the love fore ugly and wretched imagery and style is not exclusive to here, a big difference being that the love here is shallow, it is not the images themselves but what reaction the illicit. Whereas others revere ugliness genuinely because to them the idea of beauty is poison to them due to feelings of inadequacy and insecurity and a spiteful worldview.
>>25120740How do you know it was all fake? How do you know that things are legitimate now? Because you can see it? Because you experience it? What of the people which lived in the past? What of their experiences? And what of people in the future? What if they say that what we live in is nothing but a facade? Also what is better in your mind? What is the “good”, “truth”, and “beauty” which we should strive for?
>>25120764What notion of freedom is preferable, then?
>site is majority white>creates countless artifacts of original internet culture>threads are generally usable and friendly enough>site becomes majority brown>not a single piece of original internet culture has been created>every second thread is a porn thread>people are leaving for better alternatives en massea fascinating coincidence...
>>25120894>people are leaving for better alternatives en masseWhat alternatives? The infinite jeetfarm Twitter? The white-hating Reddit? There are no alternatives. Once this place officially dies there'll be nowhere else. This site being down for a week last year proved this.
>>25120911>What alternatives?every 4chan alternative these days is just "4chan but without the no racism/loli porn outside of /b/ rule" without fail
>>25120912Most altchan allow that stuff, even big brother, its just that people are more familiar with this site because its more crowded here
>>25120873Freedom as the self-determining capacity to actualize, communicate, and participate in the Good. A man who chooses evil, who chooses the worse over the better, is either ignorant of what is truly best (and so constrained by ignorance) or unfree on account of weakness of will. Even Milton's Satan must declare, "evil be thou my good," for it doesn't make sense to choose evil as evil. To choose evil is always thus a sort of privation that keeps one from what is truly best.
>>25120991you can already do that thoughwait unless… wdym by “the Good”?
>>25120728They did what they could with their budget. If there is one movie that shows its budget cuts it's the neveredning story.
>>25121132call the police on gmork
>>25118570>>glorifies barbarism and violence>>rejects the ways of civilization>>rejects scientific achievement>>rejects artBased>>incapable of sincere feeling but outwardly acts zealous for some cause>>hateful of the world's flaws but justifies these flaws in selfSadly true
>>25118570Sounds like my life surrounded by Estonian savages. And the answer is simple: right wingers and their low IQ.The moment 4chan turned right wing all over, it lost its creative and intellectual power and lost whatever civility was present on the boards. High IQ, creative, and left leaning anons left because the shit tsunami that was /pol, and what remained behind was something akin to the ruins of the Roman Empire upon which the /pol/iticians, Estonian in their souls, meaning stupid and atavistic and belligerent, tried to erect a facsimile but failed because they lacked the most important quality: intelligence. >>25120307It's actually because 4chan is normie central now. Before it was the anonymous intellectual hub where intelligent people went to act stupid and post actually interesting thoughts and original OC. Now it's all the same Estonian tier white genocide, brown bad propaganda with the concurrent basedjack memes and AI indo slop. And the reason it's popular is because racism and conservatism IS the true ideology of the unwashed fucktarded masses. It's by resonance that 4chan influenced the rest of the Internet: /pol/ hit the retarded low IQ majority (the one that thinks browns, women, gays, and troons are the reason things suck), attracted said Estonian tier majority to this site, and ruined it all through never ending spam of negative IQ cartoon memes. And now we're at a stage where if you go against the right wing 4chan majority you're bullied out of the site. So much for freedom and free speech. I went here because it was the only place in Estonia where there was actually free speech (you can get fined and jailed for advocating the slightest leftist policy in Estonia; true story) and where I met actual liberals,and not different shades of Stormfront. Now it reminds me too much of Estonian media, Estonian people, Russian people, and their discourse: conservative, backwards, lacking intelligence, psychotic. The fall of 4chan proves that conservatism goes together with low intelligence and barbarism. At this point it seems the whole world is turning into fucking Estonia.
>>25118570Where on earth did you get the idea that orc mentality boils doen to these things?Funnily enough, I was going to make a thread where I'd ask "what's so bad about being an orc?"They are honest in their resentment toward the fortune of others, they have a certain love and affirmation of destruction (which in a world that quite literally tends toward its destruction, being incohate and crudely fashioned, littered with beings ignorant of the role they play in its falling, would be a very psychologically fortunate trait to have and thrive with). They fight and seek glory in the fight and all their prejudices get confirmed in a stable, solid, unbreakable feedback-loop.
>>25118988Broken brain
>>25121398I think 4chan has always been a little right wing and edgy in a right winge kind of way. Also, aren't you that estonian retard who lost his job because he was doomscrolling?
>>25121398It's amazing how you read one book in your life and it had to be the one written by that fat Estonian who worked on Disco Elysium and now that book has become your entire personality.
>>25120993Much like Plato, he cannot in any satisfying way
>>25118570>>hateful of the world's flaws but justifies these flaws in selfWell, they are the world and the world is them. Unless you affirm it, along with all the bad stuff that happens in it, then you will always just be stuck in self-loathing.
>>25120764Well, goodness and beauty are relative to frameworks.
>>25118570you sound dumb
>>25118570I'm not a tolkienfag.
>>25119181>Russia is based.
>>25120911This is precisely why you need to work and hope for a major upheaval in global affairs. Things won't get better until the people in charge, and I mean REALLY in charge, are seriously dealt with.Basically: root for Iran.
>>25118570I come from the Orcs.We eat with spoons and forks.We love to eat our pork.
>>25121550How can you root for anyone else? Iran's government is a totalitarian nightmare but America and Israel are monsters that need to die at any cost.
Thread full of projecting deeply evil retards worshiping death and decay. Just stop being evil, it's not even hard, you can start by opposing all immigration and niggers in all form.
>>25120991Was dropping the nukes Good?
>>25118953I assume that's a troll ad like they all are because Dugin was absolutely not poor, ever. His father was a GRU spook (colonel if I remember right) which meant even in Soviet period he had the same luxuries as any other nomenklatura kid Post-soviet he's always done fine too even if he's nowhere near as important to the Kremlin as russophile westerners pretend he is
>>25118570You're still putting too much poignancy into Anonymous. It's much more simple than that. Pic rel is the most succinct description I've seen yet about modern 4chan
Which gets more (you)s, an earnest post or a shit post? It really is that simple.