>left wing icon>best known works are anti-leftist.explain Orwell to me
>>25125228He thought critically. A lot of people think subscribing to an ideology means being entirely behind every tenet of it and not being critical at all, but Orwell was smart and called shit out when he saw it.
>>25125228>the animal farmAnti leftist>1984Anti britishThe man covered all the bases.
>>25125228He started out thinking that the soviets are bad and the anglos were good, then the anglos did everything he criticized in the soviets and none of the things that he liked in the soviets, so he was like "oh well, if the glowies will make me write a book about how bad the soviets are, I'll be sure to write something that will only feature everything they themselves did wrong" and so now no one knows if he was a commie or a right winger because of that.Read picrel to understand his political views. It's very short, you can finish it in one sitting.
>BBCI will always find this funny
>>25125245Try actually reading Orwell before openly embarrassing yourself on a Nepalese macramé forum.
>>25125228>OP has no idea what leftist meansAgain?Throw it out. There is no reason at all to carry around this French revolutionary designation.Use instead, Freedom versus Control
Large portion of the Democratic Socialists and Social Democrats (who believed that capitalism has issues, but it can be reformed) that came in Europe (France, Germany and the UK) after the Bolshevik revolution were anti anything that was slightly to the left of them, he was one of this wave.And TBF his major books were anti-bolshevik, he didn't discuss all of leftism, because he was a leftist himself. He also fought voluntarily alongside the republicans in the Spanish civil war.
>>25125850>He also fought voluntarily alongside the republicans in the Spanish civil war.isn't it now exposed that he was actually there as a british spy?
>>25125854No that was Roald Dahl
>>25125809I hate every single person who posts images from that faggot movie.
>>25125228> anti leftist> jerk who hates his wife for no reason and spends pages justifying cheating on her> gets honeypotted and reeled in for interrogation
>>25125228He was anti-authoritarian, not anti-leftist. He believed the Soviets betrayed leftism and that communism required democracy and freedom of expression. And he was completely correct.
>>25125239I recall reading 1984 as a teenager, it had the impression ofbona fide horror show. After living in this society for a decace and so, reading it gives off different feelings , those of a dark comedy del arte. Only a professional writer could mediate the fine irony patina like this.
>>25125933But every time communism has been tried in the real world it has turned into authoritarianism.
>>25125228He's not a leftist icon, he's used by liberal regimes to reinforce their ideology by warning of specters of "authoritarianism" even though what they do with mass surveillance, AI, military technology, etc is no better what happens in 1984
>>25125228>>left wing iconstopped reading right there
>>25125971Hence why he wasn't a communist, but a democratic socialist
>>25126016>Democratic SocialistThat's the equivalent of calling someone a Fat Anorexic
>>25125228Orwell took a literal bullet through the throat for his beliefs as documented in great detail in Homage to Catalonia. If the man had any religion he would be canonized as a saint; he was a gangster, a true G, someone who bothed walked it and talked it: he was an original gangster and earned and bought back every word he wrote. Orwell is original gangster and few can contest it.
>>25125228TL'DR, Orwell was more gangster than all of you...the man had a moral backbone and you don't. You live in the exact lie he was warning against.
>>25126024It works on paper.
>>25126024What makes democracy mutually exclusive to socialismSomeone should tell Scandinavia they're not allowed to do that
The extreme end point of leftism is anarchism, any semblance of authoritarianism makes a thing automatically right wing. You know how you read The People's Republic of China and think "but it's a dictatorship, not a republic, what a bold faced lie" the exact same logic applies to the ideology. They say they're communist, but they're clearly not follo2ing communist precepts, they must be lying about what they are then
>>25125228He was an informant who turned lists of names over to the authorities because he didn't like their political opinions
>>25125228suck on that bbc
>>25125228> Orwell> Anti-leftistImmensly disingenuous thread from someone who's never read OrwellKys
>>25126024You can't even tell any of us what Democratic socialism is without looking it up on Google, retardYou're probably so american you think Hitler was actually a socialist
>>25126631Given that most of his famous works are pissing and moaning about how Marxism-Leninism isn't real socialism, I think it's a fair characterization
>>25126641> Marxism-Leninism isn't real socialismBecause it isn't, communism is not socialism and socialism is not communism. How the fuck do you people not know that, do you even get so confused by political spectrums that you also believe liberalism is the same thing as leftistism?
>>25126647*leftism?
>>25126647Communists split from the socialist parties, but they didn't declare some kind of fatwa against the word socialism. A quick look at Lenin's bibliography would confirm that. People talk about the left in revolutionary France to refer to everyone from Jacobins and Girondins, they're not conflating one for the other
>>25126647u wouldn't get it, brocommunism is when free healthcare!!!11>>25126655in 'murica virtually every major right-wing news outlet refers to the left as "liberals", it is very gay and annoying
I don't know where else to share this anecdote.I'm reading Fredric Jameson between sets at the gym right now, and I can't tell which part is more fucking exhausting.
>>25126639>You're probably so american you think Hitler was actually a socialistHe was a social democrat XDD upvotes to the left, nigga!
>>25126025It's pretty shocking Orwell isn't considered a badass like Hemingway. Orwell was literally a war veteran and knew the various ways on how to kill a man, like Hemingway. In all likelihood, Orwell could kick our candy-asses!
>>25126109>hurr durr Scandinavia is socialistAsk me how I know you're a burger unit.
>>25125971And with good reason. Communism can only be imposed by force. Which requires a crushingly-powerful government which is supposedly antithetical to communism.
>>25126716Hemingway was mostly considered a badass by Hemingway himself.
>>25125228>>best known works are anti-leftist.american education strikes again
>>25126723Imagine basing your entire worldview on the belief that force is bad
>>25126752I'll force my way into your bussy, twink.Open up for me, don't you fucking whine about it, either.
The man didn't miss
