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Best translation for a midwit? Also what am I in for? a friend told me it would change my life
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>>25128238
>a friend told me it would change my life
You may feel an uncontrollable compulsion to worship idols, Mary, and church fathers.
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Great book. Not sure about translation because I read it in my language but I confirm it's worth reading.
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>>25128238
Sheed (Hackett)
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>>25128242
how do Catholics reconcile this? honest question, especially regarding Mary
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>>25128287
They redefine what the word worship means. Simple as. Not even shitposting about that.
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>>25128287
sometimes I do not know if you people are trolling or just extremely uneducated about the most fundamental things ever
they don't worship Mary, they worship God only
they respect Mary and can ask her to pray for them to God (no, they don't pray to Mary, they ask her to pray for them), but they don't worship her
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>>25128295
Asking for mediation and intercession is directly against the teachings of Jesus, so I don't know why you are so uppity about being wrong. Is this what redefinition anon meant?
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>>25128295
They're trolling, it's so easy to start a funny discussion and shitpost by ragebaiting.
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>you don't get it bro the hail Mary isn't a prayer I'm just begging someone (not Jesus) to talk to Jesus for me (even though the whole point is the Jesus is the redeemer of all)
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>>25128238
Protties would be flailing around in rivers of shit if it weren't for Augustine. Please take your drivel elsewhere.
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>>25128238
read the latin. its pretty simple latin honestly.
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>Yeah kneeling and praying to an idol of a mortal woman definitely isn't worship. We call that veneration around here
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>>25128308
OP here, I do plan on that eventually but my Latin's not so great yet and I'm working through some simpler classical texts first. I peeked at the Latin and it would take me a very long time to get through even one chapter
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i just read the penguin edition and it was fine. maybe someone disagrees but as the only version ive read it was an enjoyable and interesting book.
i plan to read in italian next.
as for what are you into its basically an autobiography in the form of an oration where he is talking to god. many amusing anecdotes where he criticizes the me who hang out around the colleges and laments his adolescent fixation on sex.
towards the end it becomes more metaphysical.
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You can't go wrong with Chadwick, just get the Oxford World Classics version.

It's arguably one of the best books of all time, especially in latin (Chadwick footnotes are amazing).
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>>25128238
F. J. Sheed's. Frank Sheed's is a literal translation and is the best -- bar-none!
(Literal is more simple to read when it's well-executed)
The un-convuluted sentences combined with devotional language when addressing God (thee, thy, thou), makes the person of Augustine come to life for the reader. Hackett paperback also has wonderful notes and lists every scripture verse # to St. Augustine's copious quoting!
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>>25128295
From the "Psalter of the Blessed Virgin Mary" by St. Bonaventure
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/psalter-of-the-bvm-12537

Save me, O Mother of fair love: fount of clemency and sweetness of piety.
Thou alone makest the circuit of the earth: that thou mayst help those that call upon thee.
--Psalm 11

Hear ye these things, all ye nations: give ear, all ye who desire to enter the kingdom of God.
Honor the Virgin Mary: and ye will find life and perpetual salvation.
--Psalm 48

O Lady, save me in thy name: and deliver me from my injustices ...
O my Lady, help me! bestow thy grace upon my soul!
--Psalm 53

How lovely are thy tabernacles, O Lady of hosts: how delightful are the tents of thy redemption.
Honor her, O ye sinners: and she will obtain grace and salvation for you.
--Psalm 83

Behold, Lady, thou art my savior: I will deal confidently in thee, and will not be confounded.
For thou art my strength and my praise in the Lord: and thou hast become salvation unto me.
--Canticle on the Model of Isaias (XII)

O blessed one, in thy hands is laid up our salvation: be mindful, O loving one, of our poverty.
He whom thou wilt save, will be saved ...
--Canticle Like Habacuc's (III)

Whoever wishes to be saved, before all must hold a firm faith as to Mary.
Which unless anyone shall keep whole and inviolate: without doubt he shall perish forever.
--Marian Creed After the Manner of St. Athanasius
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>>25128287
There's nothing to reconcile. Catholics don't worship Mary or the Church Fathers. Protestants are just liars, as usual.
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>>25128625
Why do you guys pray to saints to help you find your lost keys?
>Saint Anthony, Saint Anthony please come around. Something is lost and needs to be found.
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>>25128625
>I pray to the painting of Mary but it's not worship bro I promise



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