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How come indians didnt write books until 1800
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>https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/index.htm
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/tantra/index.htm
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/sex/index.htm
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/index.htm
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/jai/index.htm
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/skh/index.htm
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>>25128826
So, none of that is literature btw. It's religious scribblings and how-tos for breath control and penetration. Most civilizations never bothered to write that down because it was obvious to them.
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>>25128832
Plan to post any literature? Religious bickerings between inbred tribes isn't really what people consider to be literature. I guess you really were totally unfamiliar with the concept until the British civilized them?
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>>25128836
What people actually think is irrelevant.
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>>25128833
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/sha/index.htm
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/lcc/index.htm
>https://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vav/index.htm
>drama isn't literature
>poetry isn't literature
>the Mahabharata and Ramayana aren't literature
I hate pajeets a lot, but they've had literature for thousands of years, they just lacked the prose novel until the 19th-century
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangam_literature
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>first name is Sirs
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>>25128847
Uh, literature lol? Homer, Shakespeare, Cervantes etc. Heard of them? Yeah, they didn't scribble metaphysics while huffing poo, they practiced the literary arts.
>>25128850
As said before, your religious scribbles aren't poetry or drama or literature. Please stop with this, it's embarrassing.
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80% chance this thread was posted by brown hands
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>>25128892

Among the world’s greatest poets, the names of Homer, Shakespeare, and Cervantes are invoked as the peak of literary genius; yet beside the radiant artistry of Kalidasa their achievements appear bounded by narrow imaginative horizons. Kalidasa unites in a single voice the delicacy of lyric perception, the majesty of epic vision, and a metaphysical depth that renders nature, emotion, and cosmic order mutually transparent. Where Homer moves with monumental strength through heroic narrative, Kalidasa makes the very texture of the world breathe with aesthetic and spiritual significance. Where Shakespeare probes the labyrinth of human passion, Kalidasa harmonizes passion with an encompassing vision of beauty and order that suffuses every image. Where Cervantes delights with irony and humane wit, Kalidasa elevates wit into a luminous poetics in which language itself seems to awaken to a higher clarity. Thus his genius does not merely rival these masters but surpasses them in scope and refinement, for his poetry achieves a rare synthesis of sensuous beauty, philosophical resonance, and formal perfection that seems to exceed the limits within which the others, for all their greatness, remain confined.

A closer examination of their works makes the contrast more definite. In the epics of Homer the narrative frequently advances through extended catalogues and formulaic repetitions that, while useful within the oral tradition, produce stretches of poetry whose imaginative texture is comparatively thin. The catalogue of ships in the Iliad illustrates this tendency toward enumeration rather than inward aesthetic elaboration. By contrast, in Meghaduta by Kalidasa, even the description of a cloud’s journey becomes a sustained orchestration of image and sentiment in which landscape, longing, and cosmological symbolism are fused with remarkable precision.

Similarly, in the tragedies of William Shakespeare such as Hamlet, moments of profound psychological insight coexist with passages of rhetorical excess and structural looseness, as seen in the prolonged discursiveness of Hamlet’s reflections which often suspend dramatic movement rather than refine it. Kalidasa’s drama Abhijnanasakuntalam, by comparison, achieves a remarkable equilibrium between lyric beauty and dramatic progression, each scene advancing both emotional resonance and narrative clarity.

Even the humane brilliance of Miguel de Cervantes in Don Quixote depends heavily upon episodic digressions and interpolated tales that dilute the central artistic unity. Kalidasa’s epic poem Kumarasambhava demonstrates a contrasting discipline, where each description of nature, each movement of divine action, and each emotional transformation contributes to a single integrated aesthetic structure. On this specific account of structural harmony, imagistic subtlety, and sustained poetic concentration, Kalidasa’s art appears not merely comparable but distinctly superior.
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>>25128785
Because they thought reality was an illusion and putting effort into the investigation and recording of material reality was pointless unless it related to the transmission of spiritual teachings.
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>>25129057
I've always wondered who these kinds of paragraphs are for; sounds like the sort of tirade you'd pull out to impress the girls and the gullibles that surround you

What am I, me, an intellectual, suppose to take out from this massive jumble of unsupported opinion? I've grown more tired, that is all that my eyes setting their focus on these paragraphs generated
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>>25128875
>poovai
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>>25129116
You are spiritually a white, we get it anon.
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>>25129116
it's ai sloppa
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>>25129116
Worked for your mom
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>>25128892
>As said before, your religious scribbles aren't poetry or drama or literature
Is such a harsh delineation really justified? Numerous Western poems and plays are concerned with religious affairs.

I think it's better understand Indian literature on its own terms than to try to fit it into a particular box.
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>>25129380
Kek imagine being this brown. There a plenty of religious and scholarly metaphysics books produced by the west, from Plato to Aquinas to Foucault. That’s not literature you dalit buffoon.
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>>25129400
Eh religious and metaphysical texts even Western doesn't count as literature?
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>>25128850
>I hate pajeets a lot, but they've had literature for thousands of years
Even in a culture where 99% of the population is animalistic barbarians you're still going to get a few humans every once in a while who want to express themselves in a civilised manner
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>>25129400
>>25129445
Big Sleep
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>>25128833
incredible goalpost shifting on display here
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>>25128832
Ancient savage white men wrote all of those while curb stomping Dravidian cattle. I used to think "we wuz aryanz n shiiieeet" was just Nazi cope but the indo european DNA and linguistics don't lie.
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Low IQ pseudo-intellectual brown nigger thread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Arctic_Home_in_the_Vedas
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>>25129567
>We were Indians, and such.
But unironically if you have any recs or sources for this line of thinking please provide me with them as I would love to be able to read those texts and not get put off by imagining Poojeets, and instead imagine that it was my ancestors doing all the cool battles with the monkeys and that.
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I'm translating book 2 of the rigveda lads. Here are the opening verses of the hymn to rudra (shiva):

May, Maruts’ Father, devotion be to You
That you won’t keep the sun’s form away from us.
May the hero forgive us for the courser;
May we conquest onwards, Rudra, by offspring.

By your most salubrious gifts, o Rudra,
By physic, may I attain a hundred years.
That away from us hate (and trouble further)
Might move, hide yourself away everywhere!

Best born, Rudra, you are the most majestic.
Strongest of strengths, with the vajra for your arm,
You speed us past trouble; he abides on high;
Keep all onfalls away from deficiency.

>>25129689
Unfortunately for you Timmy, while the Vedas were probably composed by wh*teoids, the epics were written at a time where blond hair and blue eyes were legendary heroic attributes from times long past. So it was swarthy pajeets imagining the monkey battles etc
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>>25129400
atheists are incorrigible.
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>>25129437
No retard.

Freud is not literature. Your chief gurusuckacocka's ancient ramblings aren't literature.

Cervantes is literature. Murakami is literature. Morrison is literature.

Hans Herman Hesse wrote the first piece of indian literature and he wasn't even indian.
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>>25130126
Your afternoon tea, dalit.
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>>25128875
Based knower. There are entire subgenres of Indian literature from different linguistic and literary groups that this site will entirely disregard because
>HAHAH POOOOOO!!!! HAHA JEET!!!!!! SHIT PEOPLE AND COW PISS!!!!! WOW FUNNY!!!!!
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>>25130444
They think it's funny that Indians have to defecate in the streets because the English fucked up their infrastructure so much. This is the level of evil we are dealing with.
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>>25130444
The Tyler Oliviera video where the Indians eat the cow shit is funny AND Sangam poetry is pretty good

I'm a nuanced kind of guy
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they did, but they did it in Persian. Indians up to 1800 lived under Islamic Iranian dynasties, or sometimes Persianised Turks or Mongols, and were all persiaboos
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>>25129057
Goethe praised Kalidasa btw
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>>25130473
You're respectable at least, Indians aren't saints for having a good literary tradition. A lot of people on here get so worked up over India that anything remotely related to it gets written off as POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO even if it's clearly something of worth

Imagine if people did that with, say, China
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>>25130103
Evendoe GermanicBVLLs (Ostrogoth, Visigoths, Franks, and Saxons) preserved the Latin written tradition when they conquered the MedCUVKS whilst additionally putting their SUPERIOR oral tradition into vernacular writing or however the LARP is done
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>>25130444
Perhaps because it's a literature board.

Are you expecting people to take you seriously? Why is it Egyptians can point to plenty of great modern authors and not have to point at ancient heiroglyphs written by savages that were enslaved?

Imagine a Jew pointing you at the OT when asked about jewish lit instead of Kafka. Just lol, utterly mindbroken slave.
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>>25130103
Sheeit them arabs must be having a hard time if they getting conquered by such people den
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>>25130484
>Imagine if people did that with, say, China
People did not too long ago. Then they saw and heard how advanced China has gotten. Unfortunately, India still has a LONG way to go before they reach that.
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>>25130501
People used to post Savitri Devi on this board
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose
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>>25130551
now were talking thank you
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I think India was a prettier country when it was less populated and there wasn't plastic waste everywhere

You can shit outside if there's a shaded jungle nearby
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>>25130486
Tagore is huge, I'm not sure what type of comparison you're trying to make. Willfully ignorant and probably underage
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>>25130564
didn't realize tagore lived in the sangam period between 300bc-300ad
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>>25130416
>Cervantes
>Murakami
>Morrison
>Hans Herman Hesse
>all pseud shit
lol
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>>25130608
I mean 50+ posts ITT and the only thing posted so far is ancient rupi kaur tier navel gazing from 3000 years ago and a neonazi revivalist meme author... if only the brits managed to civilize you
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>>25130617
Doesn't matter what you think. Cope.
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>Doesn't matter what you think. Cope.
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>>25130568
You're talking about Indians being unable to reference modern Indian literature, you intentionally obtuse retard
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>>25128785
The Arthashastra is like Machiavelli's Prince.
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>>25130636
It seems they are also unable to read in general. Can you follow reply chains?
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>>25130482
Praise is an understatement, Goethe considered him the greatest poet of all time



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