Dunno, but can you tell me more about that book in the pic?

>>25129947
Yeah. Hesiod seethes about his brother winning in court and then makes some bullshit up about how society is degenerating.

Why is time well founded instead of non-von Neumann?

>>25129945
If there was no order, you wouldn't be able to tell

>>25129959
Yeah yeah, but I'm asking why, not what if. I don't think counciousness asking is a necessary condition for the existence of time in an universe anyways, if we understand time as change.

>>25129968
There is no order

Can you tell?

I dunno what you mean since time and space sre now known to be ine continual. Time is simply the fourth dimension. It is only ordered in the same sense the other three dimensions are

>>25129971
The arrow of time points forwards, entropy always increases.

>>25129980
The other three dimensions aren't ordered in the same way

>>25129945
the implicate order or something

>>25129945
the perception of time is derived from the law of identity, if it seems "well ordered" it is because things change only slowly and in a continuous manner

You're free to shuffle time if you wish. Let's say we have
A -> B -> C
A is it starts raining
B is you recognizing it's raining
C is you opening an umbrella because you recognized it was raining

If C occurred first, you would still be operning your umbrella because you recognized it was raining. When we then go to B, you will not have your umbrella out because you have not opened it yet, and since you didn't close it, you have never opened it.
Then when we go to A you will not have recognized it as raining yet.

There's no way to prove that A -> B -> C happened in that order, you are only in one of the events.

However if you are in B after C, you will no longer remember C, because C requires B

Therefore it becomes irrelevant which order it truly happens in. Things are ordered because of cause and effect.