I’ve read some Dungeon Crawler Carl

If that’s the peak of the genre, the genre does not deserve to exist

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Are there any WNs set in feudal America?

>>25142113
me every time I read the shit that gets mega popular
fucking Londoner to Lord, Heretical Fishing, all that shit, straight up telenovella writing

>>25142113
No one ever called DCC peak.

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>he clasped his hands together, his ring finger hooking over the middle finger while his index fingers crossed, leaving the other three fingers pressed together.
Incomprehensible. I spent 5 minutes trying to figure out what this means and contorting my hands in different ways and I still have no idea.

>>25142523
It's like the ninja hand signs from naruto.

Where are Tina and Kino... to bless this thread.

Gu status?

>>25142264
>Londoner to Lord
Bro you read that slop? You just didn't even look at the reviews? The ads looked interesting thank god for the review system.

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write a story NOW

>>25142658
I don't feel like posting my ideas on a public basket weaving forum.

>>25142658
I already am. Just started the opening chapter

>>25142658
I'm a writing god after an anon recommended Caffiene + L-Theanine. I still write slow as shit, but atleast I'm writing now.

Carl's book.

>>25142809
donut's book

>>25142658
I'll do it when I come up with good names for everyone

>>25143106
>Male MC: Kael
>Female MC: Liara
it's not that hard anon

>>25143148
I see what you did there, anon. well played, sir. well played. enjoy a (you).

>>25142733
it might be a tad heavy on the exposition at the start. Fuck

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>>25142658
yessur. just writing a short scene of a dude finding an arcade and dancing on a DDR machine in a post-apocalyptic world.

still trying to tone down my jewish hatred by writing them as goblins in my world by enslaving lizardfolks

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>>25142658
But I am...

>>25143199
aight chapter one done. I'll take a break and look at it tomorrow, give it a proper once over with a fresh pair of eyes.

>>25142658
i keep reading/watching obscure manga/anime and getting ideas from them

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>>25143274
>HP: 104 110

>>25140914
If you want to write about moral ambiguity maybe you shouldn't use a stock race that is literally the embodiment of evil. Rings of Power did that and I cringe just thinking about the poor orc mother holding her little orc baby. Did you think people on /lit/ were going to praise this dumb plot twist?

>>25143317
there's been plenty of anime depicting demons as non-evil long before western media started making dumbass plots and nobody gave a fuck about those.
and once again, not my plot.

>>25143274
why is your MC getting hanged

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>>25142490
A bunch reccomended it for the 'read it as best of the genre and be done with it' read. Tbh what actually deserves that title? I like hell difficulty tutorial at the moment but have no delusions about it being above slop.

I picked up the physical volume for lord of mysteries today, I was reading a little bit of it from the compiled ebook version at eminent translations after trying to understand what happened in the first ep of the anime. I've heard it's like ORV but the quality matches the hype more and is like the only good Chinese novel.

I might get that new shadow slave physical release since i've been reading it for free through ET and want to support the author but the cover looks atrocious and doesn't match the content covered.

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>>25143274
i kneel

>>25142490
Only newfag niggers describe anything as peak. Remember about 7 threads ago when some Reddit Rising nigger said a character named Peake was... (wait for it) "peak"? Then threw a tantrum and shat up the thread for about 40 posts because he expected everybody else to believe he said some profound evocative shit? LAWL

>>25143336
>Wandering Inn
>Best of???
opinion rejected

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>>25143336
Note: this is the FIXED version. The art looks way flatter and more stock than the original cover art on webnovel, Sunny doesn't even get that mask till the next volume as well. It looks so generic. Having the Mountain King or one of the other monsters from Forgotten Shire would've been better. Or just Sunny without the mask.

>>25143346
Ik right? Something that tediously long cannot be good by definition. Plus it's female lead slop

>>25142658
Currently struggling over how to make an out of touch 400 year old superpower boomer going to a job center established by the latest government engaging without it devolving into 2,000 words of exposition.

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Scorio's book but good and not boring woke trash.

>>25143353
I don't want to be the biggest hater of the series but reading it has the same effort as doomscrolling through shorts which makes it a 10/10 for an average westoid who is devoid of any semblance of focus in their brain.

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>>25143336
Oh hey I was just about getting ready to bring Engine out of hiatus, even dug up the font used for the covers to make a proper Vol.8 cover
Must be a sign I guess

>>25143336
Amazing, that rec contains nothing worth reading.

>>25143403
I've read a chunk of AXRY, a chunk of Iron Prince, and a small piece of LOTM, and found them, at least, tolerable. Guy also rightly dumpsters BoC, DotF, and HWFWM, so he can't be completely wrong.

sysapocalypse litrpg
but it's based on one of those autistic realism doom mods like litdoom or deathstrider

>>25143439
Lost in Darkness SysAPOC with periodic reset-on-death checkpoints based on "level" transitions
the entire first arc is just trying to clear the first map because he keeps eating shit to like, a fire anomaly, or a single imp

>>25143336
this is not a good graphic
ugly and with an ugly soul

>>25143336
This shit was made by a slopper from here as a not so subtle way of shilling his stuff btw

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>>25143562
I'm the only slopper on that chart and I didn't make that shit
I would make it cleaner

I sure as hell wouldn't try to shill my stuff indirectly if I wanted to shill, I would just shill it in the open like I've done in the past
go read Retribution Engine btw

>scrolling through a tag
>that looks interesting
>INACTIVE
>what a cool premise
>HIATUS
STOP DROPPING YOUR SHIT

>>25143600
many such cases!

>>25143600
Protip: Sort by recency of releases
Protip #2: Filter for completed series
Protip #3: RR declares shit inactive way too damn fast. At least check and see if they put out consistent releases

Also, if you're that mad, you can always read shit and then write your own ending for it. You wouldn't be the first.

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>>25143600
[COMPLETED]

>>25143600
>>25143605
Oh, also some shit on hiatus is on a legitimate planned hiatus and isn't stealth dropped to burnout. See if their last update is about them prepping their shit for official publication cause it's doing so well. You'll see that occasionally.

Or see if it's a writer that rotates their active series, but still tends to finish shit. Some writers will have like 6 books going at once like a fucking psychopath.

>>25142113
Same thing but for RI

Are there any agreed upon great series here?

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>>25143501
>>25143562
What I'm hearing is you want to see more slop rec charts

>>25143625
these reddit tierlists are always the same shit
it's not even a matter of actual popularity on the site, it's like the reader cluster that makes these is completely bubbled off

>>25143605
>RR declares shit inactive way too damn fast
Isn't it like 6 months before it goes from "hiatus" to "inactive"? Shit's dead bro

seniors I am halfway through desolate era I hope I will gain great insights into the dao by persevering on this path

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Reverend Insanity is PEAK.

>>25143646
>/sffg/ poster loves quirk chungus stories
not surprised in the slightest
honestly I don't even know what I'd recommend for litrpg. I can make recommendations for someone new to the genre, things which are foundational or iconic to the scene, but I don't know if I could point out any litrpg and say "yeah, this is good, you should read it"
it's all slop it just depends on you like in your trough

Weekly chapter review

Pale Lights (patreon) : more dungeon delving. Nice to see that navigatos can just simply do anime powerblast moves.
Years of the Apocalypse (patreon) : Akanas right now : "Are we the baddies?"
100 Reigns (patreon) : The drug dispel was kino. Also , I forgot the old civilizations were magic steampunk.
Player 0.4 : huh , hippy astral projection. The pacing is slow again.
Apocalylse Reborn : New terminator waifu goddess get.
Timelooping for Dummies (pending title change) : Hah , the lich teacher is great!

On trial :
One Was Worthy : The story is too slow. It's tbree chapters of reactions to one chapter of happenings. Probably my last update before I drop it , unless things pick up.
Attorney to the Villainess : kinda slice-of-life week. I have no idea what the author wants to do with the story.

>>25143622
No , way too many contrarian refugees from /ssf/
Check the recommended list in OP from before the shitters arrived.

>>25143665
that bin was made by some guy with no consultation from the thread
it's fine. its a very female brained recommendation list with highly popular names next to strange picks

>>25143674
No , i remeber him asking for suggestions for 3 threads straight.

>>25143651
>honestly I don't even know what I'd recommend for litrpg
Kumo Desu Ga, Nani Ka

If a portal to hell where to open due to a horrific satanic ritual in New York were to open, what would be the most iconic place to put it?

>>25143718
The whole city.
And the key to shut it down would be to bring the city back from hell.

>>25143718
the new york stock exchange

>>25143706
Maybe recommend a series that doesn't shit the bed in its last third?

>>25143718
Time Square during New Years Eve

Alternatively, the Twin Towers on 9/11

Alternatively alternatively, Niagara Falls

>>25143734
I didn't remember anything from that part, so no.
Also, the end of the second part is a good place to stop reading.

>>25143638
I meant hiatus. It declares shit on hiatus too damn fast. My bad.

>>25143735
How long do you think it will be before we get Satanist 9/11 elseworlds like we got all those Satanist WWII elseworlds?

I want to rip and tear through a skyscraper full of demons.

>>25143743
>>>/x/

>>25143744
I said I want to rip and tear through a skyscraper full of demons, not learn how to fuck a tulpa.

>>25143718
Billionaires row or whatever it's called

I'm taking a big risk introducing a major antagonist and letting him get away alive from the encounter. I just know I'm gonna get a lot of "Y NO KILL BADDIE STOOPID" comments, though I gave a dozen reasons why it had to happen. A living, recurring antagonist just builds tension in another way from one and done. Hopefully enough readers are left to recognize that

>>25144030
Why doesn't the antagonist simply kill the protagonists?

>>25144030
> I'm taking a big risk introducing a major antagonist and letting him get away alive from the encounter
What risk? Have you never read a manga or watched anime before?

>>25144032
He can't, it's a stalemate.

>>25144037
Again, doesn't apply on RR. Most readers there hate anime tropes with a passion. For a reason, maybe, but it often goes overboard.

>>25144044
If rr readers hate anime tropes then why are you using anime tropes (or the tropes that rr readers hate) in your stories?

>>25144044
> doesn't apply on RR
Are we reading the same site? The entire place wouldn't exist without anime.

>>25144062
Because basically everything in fiction can be simplified into an "anime trope" if you're dumb enough

>>25144095
it is a misplaced and retarded sentiment
do people not know what the site's namesake?

Is it worth doing like a chapter 0 at the start? A sort of intro chapter that establishes events before jumping to the main characters pov? Think like the intro to the first lotr movie. "yadda yadda these were the final days of the dark empire yadda yadda a hero rallied the nations to fight back ect ect" Just as a way to make a more interesting hook at the start.

>>25144258
Prologues are generally a poor choice.

>>25144258
What you describe is the extreme opposite of an "interesting hook"

>>25144267
>>25144278
no intro then, understood

Should I start with my MC just having gotten isekaid, and then exploring the way the magic system of the world she got isekai'd to works and coming up with cool ways to use it for her powers, or should I instead skip all that, jump right ahead to when she's a few months in, have a brief overview of what's been going on and what she was up to in the first chapter, and then go to her first fight with a bad guy and where the actual story starts (aka inciting incident)?

>>25144302
I don't know what kind of replies you expect, coming to this homo thread to talk about femoids

>>25144302
>FeMCslop

>>25144324
>>25144318
That's not the point. The same question would apply if I chose for my MC to be guy.

>>25144324
>did I mention that I'm vegan

>>25144030
Just make it not a choice. Make the bad guy get away because of his own doing rather than the MC having a Batman moment. Then, instead of thinking MC is a retard, they think of the antagonist as competent.

>>25144363
>You should pretend the character you're wrting about is the opposite gender; or call them a "they", like you're some kind of pink-haired "progressive", else I'll be reminded that women exist and that makes you as bad as a vegan
Are you mentally ill? Be honest

>>25144302
depends on your overall pacing I think
I like the slow, acclimating to the new world thing but I bet lots of regular isekai readers see it as pointless set dressing with how much they've read it
if your protag has a boring, generic personality then definitely skip

>>25144451
She doesn't, I think, though I'm biased. A couple interesting and plot-relevant things happen in the meantime, so it wouldn't be just set dressing, but most of it is just grinding magic. I wrote out the initial arc from the first arrival, but now that I'm reading it over it feels like I can cut most of it, and then bring up the interesting bits in flashbacks and/or other characters talking about it later.

>>25144363
Can you explain this vegan thing?

>>25144440
It's as foolproof as it can be. The villain escapes because he's that cool and competent and the MC allows it because it's the most advantageous move, for now. The villain isn't really even evil or deserves to die. But I already lost one patron the instant the chapter dropped, and I know there's gonna be screeching when the shit hits RR. That's just the culture now

>>25144498
there's a stereotype that vegans can't resist telling you that they are vegan. The femcslop poster can't resist telling you that he won't read femc. that's the whole joke. I don't think its very funny either, its the exact same type of spam.
>post containing femc story
>femcslop
>im vegan
and still nothing of value was said.

I just tried watching Reincarnated as Dragon Egg isekai anime and ended up wanting to genocide the entire nation of Japan.
Fairly standard premise, monster protagonist, very lite litprg elements (it's a 12 ep show), but the plot and the pacing are so retarded and so dumb it's simply unbelievable. I had forgotten how shit japanese isekai was until I watched this and then there are people out there who watch garbage like this and decide to write their own isekai story that is even worse.
G-d help us all.

>>25144501
In that case, anyone who complains can suck eggs.
>>25144518
At least the monster MC actually stays a fucking monster and gets tricked for trying to subvert the premise.

>>25144518
I felt the same way where they kept cockteasing the evolution in i think ep9? Also the dumb mind control slime plot is the most obvious unsatisfying shit ever.

>>25144525
No, there were no redeming qualities, I think some of the visuals (like the big house in the village were visibly AI generated). It's so bad I wonder how or who even decided to finance such garbage, I also wonder if it was made by 1-2 person team, but desu visuals are irrelevant, story is and it was a complete garbage.

MLA didn't post for the first time in a year; dead?

What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

I yam now working on chapter 2 of my story. so far so good

>>25144709
huh? last chap was 3 days ago

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>>25144156
Royal Road actually originated from god emperor of dune in 1981, it's the name of the road leto takes to the city festival dohicky place, beside the whole korean novel thing that borrowed its name 30 years later, but I digress on this fact.

>>25144498
Just the Crow and Rabbit guy constantly seething that people are tired of FeMC lesbian fetish slop.

>>25143336
You'd have to be a real ass to recommend someone actually read Wandering Inn, which shows no signs of completing and is already up to 15,000,000 (FIFTEEN MILLION) words.

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>literally who novel
>several updates a week
>gets popular
>one update a week
>gets more popular
>one update every two weeks
>hits front page
>one chapter a month and constant hiatuses

>>25144285
Would a little family tree/list work? To show who belongs where before the story starts? Or would I be better off saving that as the opening for one of the later chapters at the start?

>>25145084
No. Introduce characters and their position on the family tree as needed. Don't dump a bunch of information on people before they have any reason to care. If I clicked on a story and was hit with a fucking genealogy chart on the first chapter, I'd drop that right then and there. You don't get away with shit like that in an amateur writing website unless you already have a good track record.

>>25145090
Alrighty understood

>>25142942
>DCC8 reminds us that this series is a tragedy
How could Carl suffer a worse fate than Duke?

>>25145090
>No. Introduce characters and their position on the family tree as needed. Don't dump a bunch of information on people before they have any reason to care. If I clicked on a story and was hit with a fucking genealogy chart on the first chapter, I'd drop that right then and there. You don't get away with shit like that in an amateur writing website unless you already have a good track record.
this is good advice.
new writers often have a tendency to over-explain shit up front. info-dumping is the nickname for this. You can get the information to the reader, in a more entertaining fashion? By dripping that information to them. bit by bit, in various ways. some dialogue that just happens to let them pick the same info up, by inferring it. By some action that just happens to convey another part you need the reader to know. then, some prose, sure. Now the reader feels like they're learning and figuring things out, they feel more involved. They feel less like you are boring them with a lecture. which is what info-dumping is, a lecture. Its like you tell a person you just met *everything* right after you meet them. No. Save some for every time you talk to them, then you're more interesting.

>>25145084
>Would a little family tree/list work?
If you want to do a family tree, stick it in an appendix.

Scribblehub literally has a Glossary section for every story where writers can add shit like that and it's common on Webnovel and Wattpad for writers to throw together a chapter with shit like that.

Make clear it's a reference resource that may contain spoilers and not a prologue and just stick it at the start of your story or in your glossary. It won't get in the way of your writing and your readers will thank you.

>>25144996
>hits front page
>one chapter a month and constant hiatuses
Suicide move. If you hit RS, you have to pump out a chapter per day during your whole stay, because your placement (and thereby visibility) is determined by the volume of engagement. Relaxing the posting frequency also heavily cuts the views and the work will be booted out of the list faster, which means pretty much certain KO if you didn't blow up in the first week.

ETA on kemono fix?

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reading back my old shit
man my naming sense rules and always has
nobody names shit as cool as I do
tell me anons, what are the coolest names you've come up with for stuff in your writing?

>>25145731
I am proud of Balestar

>>25144515
It's more than one guy BTW, I'm like that guy also but I've only posted it like 5 times max across two threads. Heaps of people are sick of FeMCs because real women aren't suited to be protagonists so it's not believable fiction. And if you write them believable then they're too annoying or retarded to care about. It's not an incel thing, there's an oversaturation of female leads in media and so any redeeming novelty has worn off.

>>25145818
me when I've been writing FeMC before it got oversaturated so now I'm fucked
sadge

>>25143734
They all shit the bed. Also, if your webnovel is better known as the rewritten/edited light novel, it doesn't count because light novels aren't webnovels and why going back to read an inferior version?

>>25145820
I feel ya bro.

>>25145821
Apologies for to typos, I'm not ESL, I just don't check after changing some words in a sentence.

>>25145821
>Also, if your webnovel is better known as the rewritten/edited light novel, it doesn't count because light novels aren't webnovels and why going back to read an inferior version?
The Kumo light novel is considered worse than the webnovel though?

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Personally, I just write for the love of the game.
Could make money honestly, they want, no, beg me for a publish version, but nah, they'll get what they get.

>>25145848
I FUCKING KNEEL

>>25145848
Credit where it's due, you actually complete stuff. Well done.

>>25145821
Kumo WN > Kumo LN
Inhuman > Non-human

>>25145848
>>25145848
>a million views
>barely 400 followers
What the fuck did you do that gave everyone such a massive ICK?

>>25145818
a Fem MC can still be done and pulled off. You need the right story. The right kind of story. And its difficult to pull off. Female characters take experience,and female leads even more experience. Writing women passably well is one of the final gifts that comes from a long time writing. when its pulled off, you get something different and unique. and really lets be frank about it. ANother isekai OP MC? Gee, let me just read a similar one, and tell me what names and locations to change. its like they phone these in now.

>>25145932
I killed their self-appointed best girl
Didn't even know she was until I did lol

>>25145934
Something being notionally possible doesnt really redeem the mountains of dogshit femcs. Femc is a good tag to filter just because so many people write them like utter dogshit and make the whole setting bend around to fit it. Additionally there isn't a point in writing where someone hands you an certification letting you write women plausibly, its not just difficult but the ideas of what it would entail are so myriad there isn't even a good answer.

In a confrontation of Magic versus Technology (and eventually Magitech vs Technomancy), how interested are the readers in how such conflict would play out?
Are they interested in a fair fight?
Do they just want technology curb stomping magic?
How interested are they in how magic and technology will eventually blend with each other?

>>25145991
Anon they want the good guys to win.
Analysis beyond this point scatters into vague 'it depends'

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>>25142109
Where are my bunny chads at?

>>25146005
>RavensNigger

Big fan of Tian Zihao. He doesn't afraid of anything.

>>25145934
Why write femc when most readers don't want it?

>>25146372
astroturfing trickling down to mainstream culture is so annoying man
you're not on a holy culture crusade, stop doung this

>>25146372
>most readers don't want it
>some of the biggest hits on RR have feMC

>>25146372
>I'm vegan btw

>>25146372
because I want to write it.

>>25146653
How come you find youself wanting to write femc when you're a male (I assume you are male) .

>>25146653
based

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I enjoy reading good FeMC.
I choose not to write it though.

>>25146704
Have you really never considered people like making OC waifus

>>25146704
i like women

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Have y'all considered just not revealing the sex of your MC and letting people draw their own conclusions? I wrote a story like that once. Was fun.

>>25146753
A common affliction. I imagine most of us here suffer it.

>>25146765
I'm not sure about that. There's a lot of incels here.

>>25146768
just the vegan

>>25146744
Why not have a male MC with a harem then?

>>25146704
AGP is an extremely common mental illness among terminally online internet losers these days unfortunately.

>>25146768
Considering that incels are largely bitter romantics, yes they would also like women. Hence their frustrations with women.

>>25146842
they tie up their entire self perception and worth in their opinions on women
admitting they're attracted to them would be a complete denial of their own value and existencd

Great, another heavily autistic, snarky nitpicker found my story and wants to deliver running commentary. My absolute favorite reader type. I hope someone drones the factory where they print these dull spergs

>>25146809
Then theyd have to write a guy, when what they want to write is a waifu.

>>25146883
He'd have posted it himself if he wanted to. That said, it wasn't all that difficult to find it either.

i created a woman in my head. she's cool. she does cool things. I want to write a story where she is cool and does cool things.
it's that simple.

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i created a woman in my head. she's cool. she does cool things. I want to write a story where she is cool and does cool things.
it's that simple.

>>25146809
>oh you like oranges?
>why not like apples instead?
do you consider yourself a sentient human being or are aware of yourself as a braindead retard?

>>25146933
>>25146888
If the point is waifuing then it just makes more sense to make a harem.

>>25146933
He really is like a vegan kek

>>25146744
This is part of the issue with FeMCs yes, I'm glad you're cognizant enough to notice that

>>25146917
yh that's why i deleted it :p also the entire premise of that stort just didn't interest me

>>25146876
Bro, block him and delete his comments. Your fans will appreciate it. If he's breaking rules, report him too try to get him banned.
There are some real vile trolls on RR (and I assume other sites). They get off on being shitty. Nobody will miss their comments and go look at the comment section of stories on the top of RS or trending or whatever: they don't have these kinds of shitty comments. They delete them and block the accounts posting them.

Getting comfortable with blocking assholes and deleting their comments has changed my life this last week.

>>25146372
> when most readers don't want it?
Proof required. Who are these readers you speak of? It's certainly not those on RR, because they either don't care or actively seek out female MCs. You are the perfect example of projecting.

>>25147035
>It's certainly not those on RR, because they either don't care or actively seek out female MCs.
Proof required.

>>25146958
Honestly I'd be ok with it if their waifus weren't shit.
>>25146938
Have you considered that you demanding people think the same way as you doesn't actually mean they agree with you?

FemMCs are fine. PGtE and YotA are peak.

>>25147021
I still try to uphold some freedom of speech, as long as it's about the story and doesn't get personal. These autismos just flip and make another account to 0.5 you if they're blocked, so it doesn't help much. Let them bitch their time and they generally go away if they don't get attention from daddy

>>25147105
What do they stand for again?

>>25147109
Hasn't happened to me funny enough. I guess they had already moved on to something else to complain about before I blocked them, although I caught one faggot like 30 minutes after his shitty comment that went too far.

I get wanting to keep criticism up for free speech but if it's low quality you don't have to tolerate that and nobody expects you to.

I actually missed deleting one comment and another user replied to it saying 'wtf is wrong with you' which gave me a lot of confidence to be more strict.

>>25142109
How does one write a conflict between nations without
>idiocy
>need for resources
>previous actions

>>25145731
bob

>>25147063
Just look at the top 10 or RS lists. Plenty of female MCs.

>>25147188
I just make one side behave like Jews and that's enough to automatically make the readers understand they're an existential evil to be exterminated
the worst part of this is having to stomach writing jew behavior

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Any good modern setting webnovels? Like a dude with a cheat skill who wins at life.
Doesn't have to exactly be like that, as long as it is modern and interesting.

>>25147193
I was trying to write out a story between nations where no nation is inherently evil or good. I have come to either absolute utilitarianism and those who oppose it, and an idiocracy coup

>>25147201
a resource war where both nations will be in big fucking trouble without the resource would be the most reasonable
"yeah we fabricated casus belli but think of all the people who will suffer and die if we don't get le spirit stone mines"

>>25147188
>need for resources
How could there be a conflict between nations where nobody stood to gain anything at all? Even if the principal warmonger faction just wants to genocide da juice theres plenty of gain to be had in robbing their corpses.

>>25147188
Easily
>prince and duke's daughter from another kingdom are set to be wed
>prince dumps the duke's daughter at a party in front of everyone to marry some baron's daughter with pink hair
>duke's daughter goes home where she is the shadow ruler who manages everything single handedly
>her family is surprisingly supportive and convince the kingdom to go to war on her behalf

None of the above people even have to be part of the main narrative, but that's a perfectly valid reason for war between countries.

You could also have one kingdom researching demon summoning or some shit and another kingdom invades to make them stop. Might be a bit on the nose especially if the other kingdom already has perfected demon summoning.

Really a conflict between nations is the same as a conflict between people. Just scaled up.

>>25147208
that is what I am trying to figure out, I feel that it either has to be from some """moral""" high ground, or for some desire to free people from a poor government
>>25147211
>previous actions
i think what you are trying to get across is that it doesn't have to be some form of long history between two nations, but rather something that would happen between an unhappy couple or between some odd number of people

>>25147200
Yes

>>25147222
>that is what I am trying to figure out
My point is that its functionally impossible, even in an apocalyptic nuclear war you stand to gain the future itself by being the last man standing.
In terms of 'neither good nor evil' realistically no nations are 'good' or 'evil' because theyre made up of too many distinct agents with their own aims, agendas, and assessments.
To try and answer your question anyway I will take a page from another series. In Last Exile the two countries go into brutal war because one side is suffering an apocalypse, so they enact desperate measures to flee into the only other available space. The defending country is simply maintaining their soveriegnty from the invading hordes.

>>25147222
You've logically excluded all possibilities then. Just accept that humans care about the past and what they stand to gain and occasionally act irrationally and that's where conflict comes from.

>>25147200
I've only attempted to read two - dropped both. They were neither good or interesting.

>>25146764
And use they/them pronouns? That's gay. I read a story like that once and occasionally the main character sounded like an unspecified object.
>He took them into the forest.
>He took what into the forest? Equipment of some kind? Lanterns? Sandwiches?
>Go back and reread the paragraph to figure out what "them" are
>eventually realize "them" is the main character.
>wasted brainpower and reading time because the author is a fag who cant use pronouns correctly.
Genuinely awful.

>>25147381
>>25146764
If you're going to try this, give your MC a fairy tale type designation based on their role
e.g. "the Blacksmith" or "the Forester" something like that to substitute for shitty they they they they

>>25147188
>How does one write a conflict between nations without
>>idiocy
>>need for resources
>>previous actions

a third country, say an intermediary between the two. Deliberately misrepresents both sides dioplomatically to the other. To get them to fight each other, weakening each other... with their plan being to wipe both out when they have almost killed each other and take both bigger countries and all of both's resources now for themselves. Think of a sneaky jew messenger each king has, messing with the messages back and forth, to create a war the jews can profit off of. Just scaled up. Imagine europe and russia having world war three, then the jews are going to take over everything when both are about played out. At the end, it would be found out, and the ragged survivors of BOTH countries would come for them for a long geurilla campaign and finally triumph.

>>25146005
this is the number one [polite protagonist] tag on SH. Never read it, but I'm jelly as hell. I'm getting my fucking ass kicked by this novel in that particular tag. OP at gardening and cleaning and making friends. Christ don't that beat all.

>>25145961
experience can pay off. I seem to have landed my first big fan. They want to read all my stuff and discuss it and everything. Where there's one fan like this it stands to reason to me that theres more to be had. And if I'm one of the decent FeMC writers out there than that could be my niche and hard for others to duplicate. The fan heard me mention MLA and then went to start plowing through it and thanked me for the recommendation so they're not crazy. I'm afraid to ask how my prose compares to MLA prose now. scared to hear how I stack up against a professional.

>>25146764
>Have y'all considered just not revealing the sex of your MC and letting people draw their own conclusions? I wrote a story like that once. Was fun.
considered it. was going to try to write everything so it seemed like it was a male and they assume it but the reveal would be at the end.

>>25146372
>Why write femc when most readers don't want it?
that's news to the biggest hit not that long ago. MLA. Fucking everyone read it or talks about how they're going to. it was/is that popular.

>>25146764
you'd have to write first person

>>25147381
Correct. Singular they/them is a cancer on the English language and must be destroyed. Use the gender neutral he or it instead or perish.

Modern language pisses me off so fucking much. Any time I hear someone say a tranny word like "spokesperson" or even recently I heard "pointperson" (instead of pointman) it makes we want to fucking murder someone. How long is it until we get CRAFTPERSONSHIP? All you've done is switch from german root word to a greek root word, you haven't made the language more 'inclusive' (as if inclusivity is a laudable goal) you've just demonstrated your utter lack of knowledge of etymology.

>>25147392
>a fairy tale type designation
The word is "epithet."

>>25147527
Be the change you want to see in the world. Get into autistic arguments about language IRL every chance you get. Before you think I'm being facetious, that's literally how that trash was pushed in the first place.
My recommended insults are 'uneducated' 'unintelligent' 'drooling retard' 'third worlder' and 'ESL'. Yes, call people those things in real life.

You know, this vacation arc of BoC is really driving home how much of a Japenis MC Jin is.
>yare yare, I just want a quiet life
>is OP before the end of the first volume
>fukou da
>try this simple food from my homeland [drizzles tree sap on snow]
>wow, it's like sugoi oishii in my tum-tums!
>harem MC
>huge bloated cast of side characters who are the only ones who actually do anything
>wow, he's so humble and liberal!
>haha, I'm just a simple man [shatters a mountain with a lick of his garden tool[ haha I'm nobody special [wears shitty simple clothes all the time]
>the land itself warps around him to glory him and his image

Tremendous Japenis energy, only slightly abated by the fact he actually does fuck his harem.

>>25147611
>BoC
>harem
I stopped reading a long time ago,I thought he only had eyes for his freckled wife, did he had a change of heart?
Also, yeah, Jins "humble" attitude comes across as unauthentic eventually

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>>25147622
Not in text yet but CF has said definitively that Xiulan is going to get plapped, things have been moving that way (at a fucking snail's pace) and has commissioned art of her and said freckled wife performing collaborative fellatio on Jin and posted it to his server for all to see, so I consider that pretty official.

>>25147638
>has commissioned art of her and said freckled wife performing collaborative fellatio on Jin
baseD?

>>25147638
damn what a cuck

>>25147543
if you just point and laugh, that works too. What? you were serious? oh, that's even funnier.

>>25147675
Example #495810 of why harems signal mental problems

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>>25147676
No because then they post this stupid fucking picture or the Jesus one and then to themselves and everyone else you've lost the argument. You need to dismantle them completely.

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>>25147682
what jesus one

>>25147677
cuckqueens are comedy gold though

>>25147635
many such cases

>>25147685
I don't have it on hand but the one that goes "They hated Him because He spoke the truth" and then usually have it edited so Jesus is saying some variation of whatever stupid bullshit they think as though it proves them right.

>>25147675
>BoC has porn
I did not know this. Are the comms atleast uploaded to some boorus?

>>25147688
true

>>25147787
i remember those early days of BoC when it was i believe supposed to be a smutty parody of xianxia only to become much, much more popular than the author ever expected it to br.

>>25147850
Dude just wanted to write xianxia harem but the RRL foid mafia got to him first. Atleast he has that spinoff. Idek wtf is going on in that one since BoC going on giga hiatus burned me out.

>>25147859
the only way to avoid this is to create a fiction with elements so blatantly laser focused for male appeal that the only women who bother reading are tomboys, that is to say, a small minority
wasn't there a user on here that was writing something similar? with a decent following, too. Skulltaker or something.

>>25147859
They mald their asses off every time male sexuality comes up too. Huge stink when Bi De had a threesome, though half the followers were running defense by calling it a "positive depiction of a thruple" or "why do you hate poly representation in fiction?" type shit.
I'd want to kill myself if I was him, wouldn't wish that audience on anyone.

>>25147881
Chicken nigga gets a 3some? Damn I've not checked in on that novel in ages so this sounds like bullshit lmao.

has there been any popular One Piece fanfic on RR? rubber body like Mr. Fantastic/Luffy lends a lot to the imagination, and Gear Second is the coolest shit

>>25147885
Monkey man has an autistic queen he has bed-breaking sex with.
Fox man has some mousey chick he ravishes.
Jin is plapping Mei and soonish Xiulan.
Magistrate is doing kinky BDSM shit every chapter he shows up with his wife, including threesomes with a kitsune maid.
Bi De is fucking the rat and some human chick (the irrelevant side piece).
The two swine are rutting.
The bee queen is a voyeur.

It's pretty horny in between the yare yare I'm just a humble farmer man haha I'm so agreeable and kind everyone loves me act.

>>25147881
Cultivation requires semen retention.
The tao te ching and Chinese bed chamber arts say the man should not cum and instead make the girl cum lots while she connects with thr universe
Im being dead ass about this you can ask an ai like deepseek

>>25147870
>only way to avoid this is to create a fiction with elements so blatantly laser focused for male appeal that the only women who bother reading are tomboys, that is to say, a small minority
if you use femdom for sex, you get your laser focus on the male gaze. you get your sex sells, as a bonus. you also cater to a niche market that while small is considered loyal. if a written bdsm fan thinks they found well written femdom they'll go anywhere you lead them with the actual story. I've read "award winning" femdom on literotica and it was still shit. you write it to actual publishing standards or get close they can't believe their good fortune.

>>25147910
chinese taoism is actually 2000 year old tradition of schizoposting compiled by autistic scholars who spent 80% of their formative years and adulthood studying Confucius, the arch-chud of Chinese thought

>>25142109
So, what is the main difference between wng and trad novels?
If I'm not mistaken, trad novels tend to have long sentences and be descriptive.
While prose in a web novel has to be simple and short. I'd also presume web novels have more internal thoughts.

Either way, any anons here have a fantasy with no magic?

>>25147947
It depends entirely on the format and publishing method. All other elements are downstream of this. You can't really qualify it by writing style or "quality" because the traits often ascribed to webnovels are also very common with independent amazon novels (which is a separate subset of the independent author market which has its own distinct audiences, a book that flops on RR might blow up on Zon and vice versa)

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>>25143336
Jesus fucking Christ, delete that chart. I was off my ass when I made it, and it looks just... awful.

I'm also fickle and would replace The Wandering Inn with Infinite Realm, in terms of presenting a digestible litRPG system. Here, take this. It's mostly up-to-date and fantastic at pissing people off. Quick-fire reviews for other shit I've read in this insufferable genre:
12 Miles Below - 8/10
Heretical Fishing - Dropped
Slumrat Rising: A Starbrite Man - 7/10
Book of the Dead 2-4 - 7/10
Rise of the Living Forge - Dropped

>>25147951
Talk to me about Infinite Realm. You're the only person I've seen that has read it. Know that I have also read it and I am curious.
>top DCC
hell yeah
>top LotM
I can't comprehend
>did not read after book one Heaven's Laws
How is unraping your waifu and assraping her rapist not the height of POWER FANTASY?

>>25147955
>Engine in Good
I'm alright with that. How far did you read?

>>25147959
huh

>>25147955
I was a huge fan of Infinite Realm and read through to book 3 initially because of how much I enjoyed the system. Ryun ended up being my preferred character and Zack a massive annoyance to read, especially when he started dating the serial killer. My problem is that it always setup and promised these huge events, giant things in motion, and the pay-offs were always tremendously weak. The end of the tournament in book 3 turned me off to the series and I haven't come back to it since. Prolly one of my favorite litrpg and cultivation systems, however.

Have you finished it all? I've got book 4 on my kindle, just no time to read lately.

>>25147959
Wrapped up book 1, need to read the rest and your other series since the art lives rent free in my head. Again being fickle, I'd bump it from a 6 to a 7 after everything else I've read. Good grasp on characters, pacing, cool system that I wanted to learn more about, and better combat writing than 90% of this list.

>>25147973
>Zack a massive annoyance to read, especially when he started dating the serial killer
I feel the exact same and I encourage you to read to the end of book 4 whenever you are bored because
>1
the author does something pretty fucking darn cool I don't see often given the context of the event and
>2
yeah of course it's a spoiler but Zach goes from being a boring Nigga Knight to the most interesting character in the fucking series

legit prioritize BOOK 4 INFINITE REALM and come back in a day or three and tell me what you thought about the characterization arc

To answer your actual question, I've bounced between chapters and 'book' releases. The last I kept up with, I read book 6 and the author planned to end it in the next book but I see chapters on and on and on and on and on and on and no 'hey check out this blogpost about what I want to do with this series' so idk I will probably pick it back up whenever he decides to finish.

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>>25147973
>rating based on first book
In that case I'm very much happy with that placement, I've been wanting to do some cleanup and rewrites in the first quarter-million words or so for a while. Elsewhere too, the book has issues for sure, but I feel like that early part needs some improvement the most, esp. to more cleanly integrate what the power system became later on.
Also regarding art, picrel and >>25143569
I'll take a look at Infinite Realm since I've been looking for something to read.

>>25147977
Alright, it's top of my list. I've been meaning to re-read and go over the cultivation system again so this is a good excuse. I might give that Apollos Thorne book another try, too. I don't remember caring for the cultivation system all that much nor the characters. I'm surprised the fans it has around here, don't see it discussed much elsewhere.

>>25147979
Can't provide much without reading the rest, but if you've improved from there and are in the clean-up process then you're back near the top of my list. Art is looking solid. Was just going over Frank Frazetta's work earlier, so I might be too close to the pulse, but I could see this obsidian nightmare applied to something like his landscapes. Very cool.

>>25143562
Wasn't a slopper then, but look forward to my sloppa hitting Royal Road sometime this year cunt.

>>25147990
>I've been meaning to re-read and go over the cultivation system again
Infinite Realm has multiple 'systems' in one. The premise is that Earth is given a System for a year or some amount of time, then they are teleported to the
...
...
wait for it...
...
INFINITE REALM
where you can cultivate 1), level a class 2), or raise some skills which are a bit more involved 3)

i have posted before about it but i'm surprised nobody else really tried Infinite Realm since it
>LITERALLY
forces multiple 'progression' systems into one environment

>I might give that Apollos Thorne book another try
I might be the only fan. I think it is great power fantasy lol but obviously a huge spoiler.

>>25147947
>So, what is the main difference between wng and trad novels?
wen novels are a shock when you first see them as a virgin so to speak. Single sentence paragraphs are the order of the day, with two sentence paragraphs when its "important" enough. They call it 'clear direct" sentences but lets face it. simple sentence structure, kept short. Chapter lengths are again, you guessed it, short. exceptions to every one of these guidelines but that's the normal WN.
>
Stylistically guidelines are to dive right in, cold open on action. If you describe or linger on anything readers get bored. think comic book levels of attention. An entire language has grown up around it. "people read on their phones" is the excuse for short sentences and single sentence paragraphs. Push them and you'll hear about 'reader engagement' is threatened by basically writing like a trad novel.
>
I'mnot making fun here, this is just the state of things on the ground, comparing WN to trad pub paperbacks. Overall, short chapters with high as possible chapter count grants more "chappie releases" which generates views, which snags readers, which provide for numbers. You can literally do anything you want, though. If you want to switch POV more often than a smoker needs a cigarette, you can go...

***

and that was their code for a POV change during a chapter. I mean, my english teacher would have strangled me, but like I said. Anything goes. LitRPG invented [snark.JPG] )loading...( weird things to indicate game information. any, thing, goes.
>
the rest is tropes and tags and release schedules and practical getting attention strategies. I find it all to be incompatible with trad publishing, but then trad publishing would go over like a fart in church releasing a best seller in trad book format, on a WN site. That's the basics of the differences betyweena regular paperback and a (typical) webnovel. Now then. you will see 5k 6k word count chapters, but its not the most common thing. you will see real paragraphs sometimes. you will see some authors use very high quality prose and descriptive trad pub language. but you will not see all these things TOGETHER. Its the wild west of publishing, anything goes. If it gets readers, its "right", if it fails to chart, its "wrong". No other real rule exists.

>>25147951
menocht loop book one is actually decent (it turns to complete 1000% shit in book two however)

>>25147947
>Either way, any anons here have a fantasy with no magic?
i'm almost done with one. my beta reader/fan is starting in on the first several chapters as we converse here.

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>>25147995
That sounds really stupid. And not in a fun way. Part of the fun in these stories is seeing how the MC exploits the system and works around the restrictions at play. What benefit does having multiple really provide?
>Hmm, this system type isn't fun to write. I guess I'll just drop it mid story.
>Oh no, I've written myself into a corner! It's a good thing I already have a justification to pull whatever I need out of my ass.
You know what, scratch that. This is great for the author. But as a reader? Bleh. It just sounds like an excuse to get away with convoluted and unfocused storytelling.

>>25148035
ok.

>>25148035
As a reader you are expected to suspend disbelief to some extent and not come into the story hostile to the author.
>wtf is all this gay greek shit and so many names and why does the story keep cutting away from achilles and hector
Seriously, if you see multiple power systems and your first instinct is concern for how the author is going to fuck up the story, you just shouldn't read it. You're jaded. Bow out. Go back to tradpub, go back to the classics, go back to the top 100 list so you know you're not "wasting your time" reading the bleeding edge of literary innovation. It's fine, nobody cares.

Readers need to stop crashing out over shit they made up in their head and got mad about, because they caught up to the latest chapter and they're an addict and they can't simply be patient for more to come out. Such people shouldn't read serialized fiction; they should just read completed series.

>>25148028
so you are not gonna not gonna share with entire class?
>>25148026
Abrupt pacing does seem like a sympton of it

>>25148092
>so you are not gonna not gonna share with entire class?
sorry. I lurk, I post, but I've seen what happens to others who shared. Most of you are really cool and a few great ones as well. but there's a couple bad actors that ruin all the fun for everyone. I come here and soak up the advice, i talk some when i think i have something to add. but posting my work or god forbid linking to a chappie. I was born at night but not last night. and that breaks my heart.

>>25148092
>Abrupt pacing does seem like a sympton of it
language is important. the woprd symptom inplies a disease or something wrong. and that snot the case. i'm long over my initial shock to the differences between traditional paperback style and the WN style(s). What intrigues me are the similarities. the writing advice by and large here squares with any i see anywhere else writers congregate. how to phrase this succinctly. suppose a writer made both a paperback 300k word count novel version as well as the WN version. the WN version is sort of the "children's illustrated classics" version of the 600 page paperback. which if you ever read any of those they are very well written but very geared for short attention spans while still carrying the guts of the original story. I'm not making fun of the WN medium. On the contrary I respect it because it has potential to gain wide readership.

>>25145934
when you write women well you get anna karenina, not suitable for webnovels. Good side characters and antagonists though
>>25147527
I've seen wives refer to their husbands as 'my partner'

>>25148110
the medium already has wide readership

just not in the west because of the current culture war on fiction

>>25147682
you don't, it's a numbers thing. a crowd of retards is immune to reason. You need a bigger crowd of non-retards to shame them instead. unironically using comment section bots is a valid tactic

>>25146753
That's pretty gay

>>25148129
trvke!

>>25147859
>RRL
Nigga it's 2026. They dropped Legends out of the name like ten years ago

>>25142109
Writing lore is fun.
The issue with lore is that nobody cares about other people's lore, unless it is part of a story.
So, what I end up doing is trying to turn my lore into a story.
And every fucking time I do that, it grows out of the fucking scale.
Like, I think I'll novelize a dozen bullets about certain events, like war or the life of a king, into a few thousand chapters, and it ends up ballooning into an entire novel full of chapters of very little happening.

>>25148043
As a writer you are expected to make it clear that readers will be able to suspend disbelief with your story.
>wtf why is there all this pushback to communism. It just hasn't been done right yet.
If you've seen how easily ideas with multiple moving parts can fail, you aren't going to assume the next to try it will work. You don't have to be a literary snob to see these patterns. It happens naturally by reading enough.
You do have to be pretty offended to make a response like that though. What's the matter? You going to defend this 'bleeding edge of literary innovation', or are you just going to cope?

>>25148167
Lore is the salt of writing. Can make a dish delicious, when spent sparingly, but too much of it makes anything inedible. And then there are authors who just dump a salt like you on chapter one and are like bon appetit motherfucker

>>25148184
>salt like
Salt lake. Phoneposting problems

>>25146744
No? I mean if I want romance read romance, I want progression fantasy (litrpg, xianxia etc) I read progression fantasy.

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>>25147995
>Female lead

>>>25142523
What novel is this? I am currently reading a Wasted Spiritual Root to Embark on Demonic Cultivation and found a very similar passage.

>>25147951
surprised you got all the way through book 1 of iron prince

>>25148219
>What novel is this
The mirror legacy. A novel that's from the "persective" of an isekai mc who becomes a magic mirror artifact but he's pretty quickly sent to the background and what it's actually about is following an ensemble cast of the generations of the clan built up by the cultivators who find & use the mirror.
It's ongoing and pretty popular, actually the #1 novel on qidian right now.

>>25147951
I'd insult your taste but you just seem like an npc in his mid 30s
usually chill guys if they don't drink

>>25147381
>And use they/them pronouns?
It was first person. People don't use your pronouns when talking to you. It's genuinely easier than you'd think.

>>25147468
Plenty of fiction is in first person, but yes.

>>25148243
>People don't use your pronouns when talking to you
now rewrite it in polish

>>25148167
themes nigga

>>25147995
Hard to sell titles in a thread like this to people who think their taste overrides everyone else's. The balance of those 3 systems was great in the books, how you had to pay attention to what you were leveling and how.

>>25148027
That book washed right off of me, but I'm glad I avoided the train wreck.

>>25148229
First book was pretty solid, decent climb to the top with a cheat device. Second book I dropped in the opening sequence when Wingus and Dingus are on their horridly written date.

>>25148238
Sober and possessing more individual thought than you, Achmed. Feel free to insult my taste anyways. Usually starts with 'You didn't like [Primal Hunter/Azarinth Healer/He Who Fights Monsters]?!? But it's so edgy and has dialogue right out of a [Bendis/Whedon/Russo] movie!!1!'

>>25148249
It was pretty funny reading people notice that none of the characters in cyberpunk 2077 use pronouns.
Didn't bother me at all but interesting that people thought it was a scifi choice when it was just down to polish writers

>>25148138
No they didn't?

Christ I only have two major characters who are female and I am constantly mixing their names up.

>>25148651
Protip: Associate a concept with a character and then give them a name you can associate with that concept, either because it's a homophone for something associated with that concept or it sounds similar/rhymes with something associated with that object.

Makes tracking characters easier.

Also, try not to go full Cruella de Vil. You can do less obvious shit like Moon>Luna>Suna.

>>25148729
corny names can be fun
let yourself be whimsical

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>>25142523
Tiger seal. Its just basic Buddhist Mudra/Hand seals, they're basing off of. The cultivation genre roots itself in Buddhist concepts that came into contact with China

>>25142109
Are there any cultivation series from western tradition that basis their theory of mind/conciousness/cultivation from the likes of Kant/Husserl/Heidegger? The chinese one all base their understanding on mix of Buddhism/dao, which has a solid foundation, what about western?

>>25148759
not that I know of
I want more slop based on western philosophy in general
it's pretty much all pop media referencing. even cultivation is typically a second order derivation of other cultivation stories

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Just kill me now.
What boredom at work does to a mf. I know it's garbage slop but I keep eating it.

>>25148759
You can achieve Ataraxia through bracketing of the consciousness, of the judgement, to achieve supreme truth about the universe. You can basically recreate most of the entire Chinese Xianxia foundations of magic/cultivation growth/manipulation of reality/etc since the west basically has captured the same foundations of how the minds in a methodical way.

>>25148759
write it then

>>25148771
my latest binge was a bloodborne x monster girl encyclopedia fanfic
there is no high ground in the troughs. we're all rolling around in the slop together

>>25148171
I'm irritated because I've seen hundreds of comments complaining about non-issues that get answered if not literally in the next chapter, then as part of an arc that is building up to resolution.

>As a writer you are expected to make it clear that readers will be able to suspend disbelief with your story.
Incorrect. You're just a bad reader if you think that.
>wtf superman's faster than a speeding train AND he can fly?
>wtf he kills everything in one punch, how can there be a story
>wtf he got away with the murder why's he freaking out
>wtf so after all that giant war he just shoots himself in a bunker, what was the point

>If you've seen how easily ideas with multiple moving parts can fail, you aren't going to assume the next to try it will work. You don't have to be a literary snob to see these patterns. It happens naturally by reading enough.
My point is your comments are unnecessary and your standards are unrealistic for amateur authors and experimental works. Not just YOUR comment HERE, but the comments of bad readers like you on authors' chapters. We all get it, you think you're a literary critic, that's nice, please be quiet and let authors cook.

>>25148587
Have you even looked at the front page? Look at it now. Or the url, which they changed too at the same time?

>>25148208
It does gain a fuckton of PoVs but the "main" characters are two dudes.
>>25148229
Holy shit I forgot Iron Prince existed. One of the authors is/was a mod for reddit's progression fantasy sub and had a meltdown (literal caps lock cruise control) because people asked why the fuck they put a LGTV flag as the sub icon like three Junes ago.
What a dogshit book based off whatever single (1) shounen the authors watched.

>>25148771
You may also like Reincarnate as The Worst Scum Ever from The NTR Eroge over on Wattpad.

>>25148813
what an awful niche

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>>25148817
Some of them are decent albeit. This one doesn't use cheat or system bullshit but using genuine social skills and interaction (by gaslighting the heroines into hating the original mc). And the romance is pretty slow burn and gradual, they don't suddenly fell for the mc after one or two arc

>>25148798
Okay. So instead of explaining why I would be wrong in my assumptions, you simply put the problem at my feet because you've seen hundreds of petty comments. Sounds a lot like you jumped to conclusions... over a pattern that's made YOU jaded. Pretty hypocritical.
And again, you're taking this way too personally. From the way you talk, especially about those comments, I get the impression you are either the author or someone close to the story.

>>25148771
nice tiddies. piercing violet eyes, intense. image saved, for, uhm... "research purposes"

>>25148208
>>Female lead
your laughing Pepe is noted.
MLA laughed, too...
... all the way to the bank.

>>25149213
Now just imagine if MLA had a male MC.
>+250% earnings

>>25149510
>Now just imagine if MLA had a male MC.
>>+250% earnings

Imagine. Suppose. Perhaps. Maybe. Literally *nothing* in the way of facts. Inadmissible in any court proceedings.
MLA --- brought in, what was it. grossed something like a million dollars, over a year and a half? More?
Of course, since (you) know so much more about what readers respond to than MLA. You naturally have your own example, of doing better. With your superior male MC.
Oh, that's right. You don't. Wait, I'll quote (you). I have to *imagine* it. Gee. seems that we live in the real world. where there's facts and numbers. Then there's (you). All imagining and supposing. How's the world of make believe treating you, anon. When you're there i bet you're clever and successful and everyone hangs on your every word. I guess I can see where that's better than the real world.

>>25149608
Now just imagine if a non-effeminate man had wrote this post.

>>25149608
Troon post.

>>25148817
>what an awful niche
Nah, Reincarnate as The Worst Scum Ever from The NTR Eroge is a great cutesy harem romance (with smut) despite the name. Only one character gets NTR'd and he basically drove his girlfriend away by being a mentally ill asshole (implied to be the result of him instinctually feeling he needs to course correct to the game timeline that the MC derailed forever ago).

>>25149621
what was incorrect, nothing. all you can do is launch snark. and that isn't an argument.

>>25149705
>Troon post.
I just had my argument assassinated. i know. i'll say something snarky, then I win. (pathetic)

>>25149747
Troon post.

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Stop replying to bait.

what are gu?

>>25149746
You need to go back.

>>25149788
how will you make me. oh thats right. you can't.

>>25149759
This. Newfags always read off the same script and spam the same exact handful of buzzwords and phrases, like a flowchart. They make it easy to know they don't plan to ever have a genuine discussion or dialogue with you. Like children who make random noises as a disruption any time someone tries to talk.

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Don't you love when the author starts ranting about their life mid-chapter?

>>25149922
Where is this from?

>>25149937
>Where is this from?
From hell. This, is the tour brochure.

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>>25149922
>first person

>>25149922
Don't people always say when you inflict your own self into character it becomes more real?

>>25149937
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/69776/samiya-of-the-wandering-flesh-a-shape-shifting
First chapter BTW

>>25148749
The way you're wording it makes it sound like some ancient thing but this only started within the last twenty years, even less. Prior to that they just wrote straight wuxia.
Not that there wasn't even ancient influence but the CCP kind of blew it up.

>>25150016
>Don't people always say when you inflict your own self into character it becomes more real?
guess that depends on the "self" being injected into the character, wouldn't you say. I wouldn't want to read that. just my opinion.

>>25149922
incestous desires seem to be the cornerstone of all such writing

>feel like I should respond to reader concerns
>can't word my personal policies in a way that feels comprehensive and professionally friendly
>decide to say less
>wait a minute
>count the comments I'm thinking of responding to
>less than twenty not even all on one chapter
LMAO not gonna respond at all. My readers are going to suffer not knowing where the story is going because they forgot the story has tags.

>>25150205
im envious desu

>>25150227
Gonna be honest it's not been great for my mental health, and then family started trying to crawl up my ass with their own retardation so I blocked all contact with them. I finally have a few chapters of backlog again, which is great because I need to tweak a batch of chapters to add more tension.

But take it as motivational: if you write to market and play the shoutout game and buy ads, you too can have annoying readers posting comments so retarded even 4chan would reject them.

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>>25150259
>if you write to market

Gonna read primal hunter up until where season 2 of the webtoon starts because I heard they fixed all the retarded changes and those kind of stories are better as comics. I hope Hell Difficulty Tutorial gets adapted, i can see the fights very vividly in my head.

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>>25147951
let me sloppify that more for you

these are all in the book chart mega btw

>>25150281
LIne 1. Will Wight. Is that a pen name? Because if it is... think how manes are listed onofficial paperwork. Will Wight, would be written down as... Wight, Will.
>
White Will, was a comic book. An adult comic book. Very right wing. We're talking... takig on the kikes and niggers, was the theme of the comic book. Any chance there's anything resembling those sorts of themes in the book. Curious.

>>25150313
Kinda schizo of you bro, it's just his name you can google it. Otherwise that does sound familiar, was it that comic book by WLP?

>>25150281
i often see HWFWM compared with Primal Hunter and DOTF. No clue how monsters ever wins because the author is politically illiterate (oh wait) and too preachy. Primal Hunter is at least honest for what it is. DOTF I have no clue about but hear it's more cultivation and sloggier than Primal but alright.

>>25150419
> the author is politically illiterate and too preachy
Because its audience is too, and for them the soapboxing is basically the author giving them a mental handjob.

>>25150281
Millennial Mage was amazing, and absolutely one of my favourites, until she gets a talking subconscious mind in her head commenting on everything. It went to shit after that and I dropped it. What a damn shame

>>25150418
yeah

2nd missed post from MLA. ded?

>>25150281
>SS
>Iron Prince among some of the other shit
LOL

>>25150281
My son, why the fuck is Way of Kings in SS after the last book? Why is Iron Prince after the first? He Who Fights Monsters has some of the worst dialogue I've ever fucking read, straight out of a Marvel movie. This is trash, young man, not to mention all the other shit you've rated highly. Voting rights removed, humanity revoked.

>>25150906
>He Who Fights Monsters has some of the worst dialogue I've ever fucking read, straight out of a Marvel movie
That's why it's popular
iirc the chart is aggregated from various reddit charts, as like a composite

>>25150808
he's earned his vacation at Jamaica with his new yacht, he doesn't owe you chapters, okay??

some guy on here actually believed that the author of Magical Girl Gunslinger was going to pick it up again, and he published one chapter before going silent for 2 months and counting
the most gullible goy of all time?

>>25148527
he really triggered you with that mid 30s npc comment huh, sounds like he hit the nail on the head

>>25150808
Apparently he's sick and took time off from writing, chill my little n'wah

As the half-life of the thread decreases, so too does the concentration of shitposting increase.

Thus we observe Sneed's Law in action.

>>25151347
Wounded me deep. Why don't you tell me which favorite title of yours I insulted and we'll pretend to have a conversation about books on this literature board?

>>25151643
Look at /sffg/ and wonder how many 'refugees' must be here, if shit like Stormlight Archive is being counted among progression fantasy and web novels. Shit's ROUGH out there and discourse goddamned impossible.

>>25151651
how is stormlight archive progression fantasy in any way whatsoever? isn't it a standard sandersnoyian fantasy?

>>25151665
The closest parallel to SA progression you would understand would probably be Cradleshit, the Western wuxian/xianxian interpretation of realizing self-ideals and stating certain goals/desires before ascending to some higher realm of advancement.

Baking

>>25151804
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