how do we get this added to the list of classics
>>25143698Shill it and try to get people to read it and vote on its inclusion to the next /lit/ 100 list.
>>25143698how do we get this added to the list of books for people who like grapes
>>25144051read this in Norm's voice and died laughing
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>>25144127written way better than I imagined. bukowski vibes
Even better as an audiobook. I love Norm
it really is great. this is also unexpectedly good for being a funny ha-ha book
>>25144685Reading that now. I don't know if the humour would hold up if you haven't already seen The Room. Like, right on the first page there's a corny joke about potatoes in Tommy's pockets that's a little too much. Still a fun read but carried by the subject matter rather than the writing.
>>25143698Norm eluding to being molested as a child(in a serious manner) was devastating to read. I wonder if I had ever told anyone previously about this encounter Great book I read it around 2019 and I plan on reading it again sometime in the near future
>>25144946alluding
>>25144946That was an elaborate joke.
>>25144946I'm sure it wasn't meant to infer that he'd actually been molested, it was just his regular style of a long and drawn out dark and sorrowful premise followed by a quick and unnoticed punchline. I loved that chapter where he talked about meeting whoever in the airport. Same as elaborating on Adam's $15 a man's adventures and whatever passage it was where he talked about beating Adam senseless after losing everything in Vegas.I remember vividly finishing the book teary eyed and thinking about sending Norm a message filled with appreciation and love which I'm sure wouldn't have gotten to him, but who knows. I'd have made a joke about he was much like the father I never had, but nothing like the father I did have. Maybe he would have liked it. He died soon after. A great man, what joy for his and what a good life he led to remembered like that.
>>25143698I love Norm but this didn't do much for me, I don't think I even finished it despite starting twice, and listening to his own audiobook >inb4
>>25144946>>25145067>>25145076There certainly are moments in the book that are serious, but they're buried under metaphors like this one. I think it's very well possible, especially given the following chapter, which is just one word: "Forget." Almost as if he's both forgotten many years of his youth, but also he's trying to say to the reader "Hey, forget that last part, now onto the jokes...".
>>25144685worth checking out if i've already seen the film?
>>25145076I had the exact same reaction, that I wished I could have shared to him what he/the book meant to me but if he’d been alive and I tried he’d just think I was some gay baby. i do think he was actually molested though, he talks about it in a few stand up bits in a way that makes me think so. and it fits his psyche. he may have been an old chunk of coal, but there’s nobody else whose every shining facet has been immortalized so brilliantly in the hyperreal cultural memory.
>>25145078you should give it another try. He put his whole self into this book and it's beautiful
>>25146543I'll sure do, maybe actually read it this time, I can hear his voice in my head anyways
>>25144489here are some more things he wrote, for anyone interestedhttps://normtwitteranthology.tumblr.com/shortstories
>>25147048Ty
>>25144685I met Greg and got it signed>>25145091Yes its way better
>"I don't remember."
>>25143698>Foreward by Louis Cuck King
>>25147048>https://normtwitteranthology.tumblr.com/basedonatruestory>Try this sometime. Tell a story of something awful that has befallen you. Cry while you talk about it, tell how you were hurt by an uncaring and cruel foe, or an uninterested and loveless universe. Maybe you will get people to feel WITH you.>Tell the same story, but tell it simply as a series of facts, of THINGS that happened to you that hurt you,even broke you. But do it from a distance and without judgement. What you will do is create a space, a space that the listener or reader will rush into,and will feel FOR you>I have led no charmed life. I could share with you stories right now that would elicit great sympathy. But I have no desire to do that. Because I know your life has been rough as well and I want you to smile.
>>25148108more importantly>My next book will be written pseudonymously. This way the book will not be encumbered by the fact that it was written by a nightclub comic. For the first book, it made sense. For the next, complete anonymity is not only required but imperative.>The theme of my next book will be perception. The main character will have the ability to perceive at a pure level. For the reader to be able to live the character, the reader cannot know the writer. The reader could never achieve pure perception.>My pride will suffer, to be sure, but the work will be free of adulteration.I wonder if this was ever actually published and if it was ever found
>>25148120My diary t b h
>>25145076>I'm sure it wasn't meant to infer that he'd actually been molestedThere's no way he wrote this and read it over without thinking everyone who read it would think he got trapped raped
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>>25149869the>eyes flashed black like the wing of a crowbit is also a reference to a part earlier where he describes seeing a cat he loved and felt comforted by senselessly murdering a mouse which makes it hit a lot harder
>>25144613How does the audiobook handle the Ghostwriter sections?
>Then Rocco explained the difference between the outside and the inside [prison] to me. On the outside, a man rises to power using his ambition and cunning. On the inside, you make your way up the ropes one way and one way only: by the number of fellows you can rape.>That’s why, within the jail, Rocco’s name was spoken in hushed tones. He was a raper’s raper. He was staying right here in prison, he told me, because inside he had the necessary skills to command respect and prestige, but outside he was a nobody. I was no longer his lawyer, just another prisoner, and if I knew what was good for me I’d better start raping.
>>25149980Different narrator who plays a good smug academic
>>25143698Its the funniest book i ever read. Though i still didnt finish it cause im saving it for later cause i enjoyed it so much.Literature as a medium is very hard to make so that its funny. Sure, you can produce a chuckle, but a full on laughter is tough to produce. There are several hilarious bits in this book. Its very well made book
>>25150391its so good that i didnt even read it
>>25150391Don't save it, just read it and then re-read it later. I've read it 3 times a couple of years apart each, and it's just as good each time
>>25143698I only know this dude as the voice of the pigeon in Mike Tysons Mysteries
>>25144127I just watched Entertainment last night, the neil hamburger movie. or gregg turkington. fuck it, they both sound like fake names
>>25149869just makes me think of his>WELL I'M JUST AN OLD LUMP OF COALline
>>25149869>>25149872>>25149879>it was real!norm was the most 100% on 0% off comedian in the business, even more than kaufman, his career was being the boy who cried wolf comedically speaking so the cost is that it becomes hard to believe that he's physically capable of writing anything that isn't an elaborate joke. and he knows that too, which is what "makes it".
Sounds like something a morphine user would write.
I'm thinking of cracking my copy of Alice Munro's stories soon. Any anons enjoyed anything of hers?
>>25143698Buy an ad, Norm.
>>25151577If Norm were alive he'd be canceled for all his jokes about sexually harassing Sarah Silverman
>>25153007If Norm were alive, he'd be in prison for comissioning the cold-blooded murder of Dave Attell
>>25149869>>25149872>>25149879>>25149882Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. Either you're the most humorless person I've ever come across, or you haven't heard one of Norm's jokes before, or frankly, read the rest of his book.
>>25144127He ought to write a proper novel sometime, he’s certainly got more talent than mostly anyone else writing these days.
>>25153882he's DEAD
>>25154050I didn't even know he was sick hyuk hyuk hyuk no but seriously anyone who thinks he wrote the molestation story as a joke is retarded
>>25153882He supposedly was planning to write another and release it anonymously, but there's no knowing if it was ever realsee:>>25148120anyway the molestation joke is definitely that- a joke- but his intention with this book was to blur truth and fiction, and I don't doubt there's at least some truth to it. Wouldn't say it's really worth spending too much time speculating on though.
>>25154082 #Yeah, and Adam really was rubbing punk dick and Norm was really stalking Silverman and there is in fact a moth out there so devastated by the weight of life itself that it's incapable to even mourn its daughter buried in a shallow grave.
>>25143698Is there a Criterion Collection for books?
>>25154567There is for comic bookshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reXDykzGLEI
>>25154546Remember when Norm read that passage about the little white coffin and cried. What an idiot. Didn't he know that was a joke. If most of the book is funny then all of the book is funny, after all. And it's totally Norms humour to write a somber story about a child being molested as a joke. That's what he's known for for sure. Not like he's want to do say something personal while dying of cancer no siree bob.Oh, and if you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic.
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>>25154577Not even going to click on this.
>>25154567Penguin should do that, but you would find out that...A) if they invite big celebrities the celebrities just do not readB) if they invite literary celebrities they aren't celebrities but black tranny nobodies
>>25154627better that an oligarchic publisher not select favorably of their own published material.would like to see an objective 3rd party's selection that has taste most would understand & appreciate.
>>25154627An author walking into a room full of Penguin Classics would be nice...
>>25154588Settle down turbo, we're in agreement. There were a few emotional passages which can make sensitive men weep and as such we can infer that there really was a ghost writer what went insane. I think we're saying the same thing.
I wonder if Norm's writing was influenced at all by Bukowski. I'm reading Post Office and Based on a True Story atm and was struck by how similar they can be. Both can make you laugh and cry on the same page.
>>25144127Feels derivative but isn’t bad. I was gonna say I’d rather read a book in Norm’s voice with some drawn out comedic bit but it’s so dependent on delivery it’d probably just look like garbage on the page. >>25143698Interesting that Louis JO wrote the foreword given the content when he tried writing a novel and just aped McCarthy type authors. Is this a thing with comedians? Too big for their britches.
The more I learn about this Norm fella, the more I care for him.
>>25154242i like to think of myself as the 4chan poster's 4chan poster
>>25143698Ah norm, the>well hmm i don't actually like stand up or watch stand up or know anything about comedy at all really and have never sought it out of my own volition, but this 7/10 at the after work happy hour is asking me who I find funny, and I need to convince her that I'm normal with a sense of humor, but I also need to make it expressly understood that I'm not like these other guys (who are better looking than me and make more money than I do) I'm an intellectual, I'm deep. I have a bookshelf straight out of a PHIL102a syllabus and a floor covered in Penguin Classics. man's comic.
>>25154242Norm's "comedy" is so dated. Quinn also had some of the worst comedic timing and delivery imaginable. I always thought he sucked off someone important or had dirt on them or something to get to where he was.
>>25156411you must be one of those european types
is it good?
>>25156411> hmm i don't actually like stand up or watch stand up or know anything about comedyOh look a fan of cawmedy, a fan of /the craft/. He was there in 1995 when Joe Rogan humped a chair in the cawmedy stoh, who the fuck are you? You have no TALENT! No appreciation for /the craft/. He's a graduate of Jordan Peterson Online University with a theoretical bachelors in cawmedy appreciation (recognized nowhere).
>>25159012Finished rereading it yesterday and for me it's a solid 10/10
>>25144127>em dashes everywherelol this faggot used ai for his shitty vain book
>>25143698It's a good book, but it's only truly funny if you already know a fair amiunt about Norm's life.
>>25159110It also helps if you've seen every late night appearance and podcast episode he's done
>>25149869There's also how the 'black as a crow's wing' bit had come up before in a cat's eyes while it played with its prey
>>25159103he wrote this long before generative ai
>>25156411how Jewish is this poster?
>>25159129He sent it back in time. Which inadvertently caused his own early death.
Things have gone sinbad to sinworse.
>>25154242I love the silliness and inclusion of his friends in his nonsense. Other comedians try to bullshit as much but suck at it. The rollerblader in reno 911 bit it hard on the comedy central show and theo von is irksome with his bblabbering. Im delighted by the sandbagging of Bill burr on the podcast to his dumb riffs.
>>25151560Holy shit! I guess i have a new writer to try. Norm was acerbic in his takedowns.
