Technically, yes. But Christians hate the word. So they’ll still act retarded about it.
>>25150898Antithesis to theism is nihilism not atheism. Also, shit bait.
when ai become sufficiently advanced, people will worship it, humans are so predictable
>>25150962Humans are a religiously minded species period. Strange how atheists think they’re not religious. They follow their own faith—their own dogma.
>>25150918>>25150898Define alien
>>25150990Alien. Alienated. Alienation. Othering:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_(philosophy)Even Europeans were alien to the native Americans. Once. All religion is born of this exposure logic. Mystery and wonder and enchantment. Looking to the stars and accusing them of being the very gods. This is no different from accusing some wise old man of being a wizard. That feeling a biologist feels when she confronts a new species of deep sea life. That is the essence of magic.
>>25150969Don't give me that Geisler/Turek crap.
>>25150995>it’s so simple, it pisses me off Humans are simple creatures, not very complicated, but they pretend they aren’t by overcomplicating literally everything.
>>25151006Grug fucks Grug eats Grug sleeps in that order
I want to believe
>>25151073In God or aliens?
>>25150898BRAVO RIDLEY
>>25150898No.But if you've been conditioned to think in physicalist terms, as many of us have, it's understandable why you might think in such a way.
>>25150898By definition yes, we are Creation and He is the Creator, He does not come from Creation, He Comes from somewhere else. He is an alien. What I want to know, is He illegal and should we send Him back?
Hey listen pal nobody who created the Earth was born there
>>25150898Sure. Why not.
>Be careful! Do not go up on the mountain or even touch its boundaries. Anyone who touches the mountain will certainly be put to death.>No hand may touch the person or animal that crosses the boundary; instead, stone them or shoot them with arrows. They must be put to death.’ >On the morning of the third day there were thunders and lightnings and a thick cloud on the mountain and a very loud trumpet blast, so that all the people in the camp trembled.> All of Mount Sinai was covered with smoke because the Lord had descended on it in the form of fire. The smoke billowed into the sky like smoke from a brick kiln, and the whole mountain shook violently.I'm not saying it was aliens, but...it was totally aliens
>>25150898>this metaphysical concept could be something physical is you ignored the metaphysical partswhoa
>>25150898No, God isn't a being.
>>25152777>777Nice try God. We will continue to believe.
>>25150969You ever experience any self-doubt with your universalizing proclamations?
>>25150898https://qualiacomputing.com/2017/03/08/memetic-vaccine-against-interdimensional-aliens-infestation/>That there are other intelligences out there in the universe.>That ultimately all intelligences must evolve away from their biological origins towards artificially manufactured forms of intelligence which have the advantages of eternal life, unrestricted size, and direct control over the parameters of their own nature.>That it is in the best interests of any intelligence to propagate its own kind throughout the universe to the exclusion of competing forms, i.e. that intelligences that adopt this strategy will thereby proliferate.>Acceptance of these assumptions, together with the above mentioned insight, leads to some rather startling conclusions. Artificially manufactured life forms need not propagate themselves physically from planet to planet, all they need to do is to transmit their ‘pattern’, or the instructions for how to build them. In this way they can disperse themselves practically at the speed of light. What they need at the receiving end is some life form that is intelligent enough to receive the signal and act on it. In other words, if some alien life form knew of our existence, it would be in their interests to beguile us into manufacturing a copy of their form here on earth. This form would then proceed to scan the skies in our locality in search of other gullible life forms. In this way, their species acts as a kind of galactic virus, taking advantage of established life forms to induce them to make copies of their own kind.>They will then give us instructions on how to build a machine that will cure all the problems of the world and make us all happy. When the machine is complete, it will ‘disinfect’ the planet of competing life forms and begin to scan the skies from earth in search of further nascent planets.
>>25153710Literally the exact plot of the show Pluribus.
>>25153710biological life is vastly more efficient and capable of more complexity than mechanical intelligenceAI requires nuclear power plants to operate, your brain requires a potatoBiotechnology is capable of significantly greater intelligence than artificial intelligence. Silicon is very crude compared to carbon. We can use artificial intelligence to transition and make biotech easier to advance
>>25150898God is not one being amongst many. As Saint Luke reports Saint Paul saying (Acts 17:28) it is God "in whom we live and move and have our being." As Saint Augustine says, God is within everything but contained by nothing, and more inward to us than our innermost selves. God is beyond being, or analogically, Being itself, Ipsum Esse Subsistence, the One, the Good, the True, and the Beautiful.
>>25150898yes
>>25150898Atheists have written countless stories about aliens powerful enough to be called gods. Christians don’t. Why would it bother an atheist to say a sufficiently powerful real world entity would be worshipped? The alien is physical and testable, not theoretical appeals to bullshit circle arguments or “if I believe a perfect being exists it must therefore god” or “hrm ackchully it must have a first cause except god it doesn’t need one”. If you’re going to make your alien godlike entity so meaningless it can’t be tested and has no verifiable impact on anything it’s just an invisible teapot, congratulations. Nobody gives a shit if it’s there or not.
Word wars!
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>>25150969>atheists just believe in the atheist religion!This shit just drives boomers wild; they really think it's the cleverest thing anyone has ever said.
>>25155414That you think it's meant to be clever says a lot about you.
>>25155437>t. boomerI can tell it's meant to be clever because you people always throw it out as if you think it's this incredible gotcha moment.
>>25155448>Stop seeing parallels! It's lame and gay!Lol.
>>25155437>it's not meant to be clever>>25155452>it's actually super clever i'm so insightfulIt's childish semantics.>i don't believe in anything>then you do believe in something; you believe in nothing!
>>25155497You sound pissy
>>25150969>wow, slaves always seem to have masters! I guess they must inherently want to serve?Spooked
>>25156750Most humans don’t own their own thoughts, without any direction, and practically beg to be led. Like sheep. Sad but true. Slave theory as proposed by the Greeks is very real.
>>25155414It's pretty clear they believe in materialism and their brand of suicidal leftism and will get extremely angry if you say it isn't true. They get way angrier than actual christians
>>25157591I don’t consider myself a leftist or an atheist, or even a theist. I definitively hate terms like agnostic or spiritual.
Hm.
>>25150898arguments have been made.
>>25150969I call myself an atheist because I can't make myself believe there is a sapient consciousness that created the universe. However, if you press me, I'll admit I've just replaced "God" with "The Universe". The universe is everything, and everything is the universe. The universe "created" us. It is entirely objective, and "knows all". It is, even if we cannot understand it, and cannot comprehend it in it's entirety. Basically, the Universe is "God", but without a human (or above human) intelligence, and everything that follows from that. Morals, kindness, wrath, etc.
>>25158459That’s perfectly acceptable. The universe is certainly godlike even without having a godmind. The sun as we know it today would devour Zeus as we knew him then.
>>25158459>>25158665To be quite fair, I highly doubt that the universe would care much or even bother to notice us, or our specific hair of time, had it been of a mind.
Bump
No
>>25150898>ayysanything but metaphysics with these people.fucken materialists...
Some deists like paracelsus did believe apparently that god was a clock
I have the distinct impression think that the jew god yahweh is some sort of giant insect creature
>>25159387Math and time are divine.
That is just the way with these civil rights lunatics: Convince the white man that he is alien in the Civilization he built with his own hands, it's not yours because some asians migrated over the Bering land bridge ten thousand years ago and cultivated the marijuana plant, so you must now pay your wealth and land to them and cry about it every October. Now they are saying not even God can be sovreign over His own creation because ... because we just don't understand him, OK? Pure lunatic insanity. Instead of wasting everyone's time with thought experiments and monster creating, try reading the Bible and learning who God is!
>>25152760God is a Great Old One.
>>25156750That's correct, Stirnersissy.
>>25158459>>25158665Retarded spinozist atheist drivel mistakenly conflating the universe with necessity, and necessity with being.
>>25158670>Oh fuck I'm soooo small and useless oh god everything is so big it's so much bigger than me I'm helpless I'm helpless I'm helpless who could care about a pathetic little ant like meee
>>25160558Obviously. Any being like God that does exist would have a very different concept of love that is incomprehensible to us.
>>25150898Star Maker asks this question but ultimately the answer is irrelevant
>>25160514fuck you
>>25160514>conflating the universe with necessity, and necessity with beingUhhh they aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive buddy
>>25160514>Retarded spinozist atheist drivelTriggered
>>25150898>GodBy "God", do you mean the actual classical God, Yahweh, or the Demiurge? If the first, you are retarded and should be institutionalised. If the others, then potentially in some round about manner, though Yahweh is seen as one and the same with the classical God in all non-Gnostic Abrahamic religions. This then becomes a question of history and society rather than religion and philosophyThat is, just as there is no consequence to modern religion as to whether historically the ancient jews made a true distinction between El and Yahweh (as seperate gods), there is no consequence as to whether either were at the time visiting alien species. The God of Abraham is not bound by the actual historical being that Abraham, if he existed and the interaction happened, may have potentially interacted withIf you mean the Demiurge (whether in a simulation hypothesis or directed panspermia sense), then a similar result is found. The classical God is being itself. That includes the being of any lesser creator (demiurge) and the being of any world running this world as a simulation ad infinitum, etc
>>25150956You can be a theist and a nihilist though. You can imagine a God who purposely made a universe devoid of meaning.
>>25160369Forsake the false religion of the Bible, embrace true enlightenment through The Dogs of Men!
>>25160514Is this "being" in the room with us?
>>25150898Is planet earth just a really big alien?
>>25150898>Atheists don't like to acknowledge...No, they just don't think aliens are supernatural magicians, but biological beings with advanced knowledge instead of divine omnipotent will power.
>>25161057Ok.
>>25158670The universe isn't bound by bodily limits. It has infinite capacity to care about every single quark
>>25157591Leftism is a spook.
>>25150898Yes. What i want to know is He illegal and should we deport Him
>>25161896In its own way, maybe.
god is just the consciousness field of the universe, that came into being with the big bang, we are all just little radio receivers of it, which is why it takes us 4 or 5 years before we become conscious, for our radio receiver to tune into god's thoughts, it really makes a lot of sense, Nikola Tesla was right
>>25150898We descended from God, so if God is an alien, then we are all aliens. Amen.
If you claim God isn’t alien then you’re lying to yourself.
>>25163077trupretending god isn't alien to our senses is just rude
>>25150956objectively false
>>25155414yes>atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobbyregurgitated by midwits that have never once considered the implications of their beliefs
Atheists will convince themselves they don’t have faith (in the truth, in science, what have you, etc) and don’t adhere to any form of (scientific, consensus based) dogma kek “Trust the Science”
>>25150898>humans arguing about the nature of godhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hKdfReE0qds
>>25164608>arguing“Dude he’s just a giant fucking alien”“NOOOOO I HATE THAT WORD”
Silly christians lol
>>25165315Jesus loves you.
>>25165362Doubt.jpg
>>25164604But scientific findings have actual studies backing them.What proof is there that Yahweh exists? >You... I... grrr.. JUST STOP ASKING IMPERTINENT QUESTIONS LIBCHUD haha, okay
>>25167006There are horizons that even science will never be able to look into
>>25167142Reee.
>>25155497>i don't believe in anything>then you do believe in something; you believe in nothing!The unbelief in something isn’t something in itself. Unicorn denier. Leprechaun unbeliever. You don’t believe in more things than you could possibly believe and virtually all of it is passive. You’re an unbeliever in an invisible wall 10cm in front of your face, every single step you take. In fact it doesn’t even register you need to deny the invisible wall every step you take. Yet you do, or else you wouldn’t take the step. You have unbelief in countless gods, but you think there’s one that’s super special. Through the magic of kike worship you’ve mixed the dead kike on a stick with Aristotle (christians lacked actual philosophical insight and just stole from the pagans) and proclaim you have some ownership of the singular “god” everyone else must refer to. Even though obviously you don’t, as even tiny disagreements on the nature of the kike god was enough to kill rival factions for 2000 years. Spineless ecumenicalism now says none of that mattered and it’s all just one big happy family referring to the same nebulous entity of no real requirements. Kike worshippers happily jump between the god of the philosophers and deist arguments and then teleport to their jew mountain god as if it’s the same thing. Deny their angry hebrew sectarian and you’re attacking the cosmological argument somehow. It’s all just a giant scam from the Israel lovers as usual.
Can the Sun not be considered a god? He may not have created us, but he certainly keeps us alive, and our entire lives revolve around him...
hm
>>25150898*Alien robothttps://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2024/11/05/ai-has-likely-spread-through-cosmos-says-former-nasa-chief-historian/https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/most-aliens-may-be-artificial-intelligence-not-life-as-we-know-it/https://futurism.com/seti-scientist-aliens-are-likely-robotic-life-formshttps://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a62990282/post-biological-ai-aliens/https://www.science.org/content/article/if-we-ever-meet-aliens-they-ll-probably-be-robotshttps://nautil.us/why-alien-life-will-be-robotic-235661https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160922-what-if-the-aliens-we-are-looking-for-are-aihttps://www.newscientist.com/article/2430601-dozens-of-stars-show-signs-of-hosting-advanced-alien-civilisations/
>>25165362That's a nice sentiment anon
>>25165362And what does he have in store for me if I reject him? Because if I've learned anything in life, it's that if someone punishes you for rejecting their love, they never actually loved you in the first place.
God doesn't have any citizenship so legally he would be an illegal alien if he suddenly descended down here on earth which I think is funny
