We know about millennial writing, but what about zoomer writing? What is it like?
>>25152342Zoomers can’t even read, so how could they write? Millennials can read/write, just not very proficiently.
>>25152342>zoomer writingi read some of those and it was indigestible
>>25152350Tell us more
>>25152350Zoomer writers exist? You’re pulling my leg anon
>>25152353>>25152355there's lots of them around here. mostly university graduates publishing their books. somehow romance tropes are the most common in those. but apparently they do never sell well, and ends up in the local street stores in here where they sell in stacks. i once picked up one of those because i was surprised how cheap it was and tried digesting the first few pages and it was horrible. they lack the idea of painting things in a perspective that you'd would find interesting or different and tries too hard to please you on the way. you'll notice they are trying too hard to sound deep like the classics as if they got no creativity of their own. these degrades the quality in every way. there was author info at the back and noticed the zoomie was a 24 year old "successful" writer lmao. i can't tell for sure about the global famous ones tho (they mostly write smut young adult anyways and only appear on tiktoks kek), but I can confirm the works written by most zoomers are absolutely horrible. they need to be themselves confidently instead of trying to sound like other authors and that's what makes them naturally good. it will fuck up your brain and lower your iq till the lowest point.
>>25152387I guarantee the “classics” they try to replicate are literally only Dostoevsky and McCarthy (who isn’t exactly an original writer himself) because they seem to be the go to “serious” writers for TikTok zoomers.
>>25152387Sounds grim. Any particular dialogue patterns that you noticed? I assume they would at least try to avoid the typical gen Z negrospeak (rizz, sus, no cap, etc.)
I'm a zillennial and my writing is kinda weird.
>>25152445What the hell is a zillenial? Oh wait I’m guessing it’s like a 26 year old or something
im a hobbyist zoomer writer that shit out my bad million words by age ~21. much of what i wrote about had to deal with combating the obnoxious John Barth-formalism and superficiality of what millennials left us with, which no surprise gave me an organic and almost manic appreciation for DFW and Dosty when i found them. the content of what i wrote was very dialogue heavy since i was and still am interested in letting weirdos and outcasts talk in accurate vernacular like Hubert Selby does, and i also developed this obsession of listing a number of obscure books that helped me personally detach from materialistic pop culture in a reverse psychological "these are really dumb dont read them" way, since if i ever do pursue writing with the intent to publish i will have to integrate the fact that nobody really reads anymore into the language. when i was reading significantly less than i do now i remember getting very very angry that authors were using allusions and "big words" and i assume most zoomers are there right nowif you want a general formula for what zoomers (the smart ones anyway) will likely value in fiction when the scales tip and its cool to think and read for yourself again (like the punky 70s after vietnam and the grungy 90s after reagan,) just think about how writers explore in fiction what they dont have irl. brandy sandy didnt have fantasy books that read like an elaborate DnD campaign, so he nerded out, wrote them, and made a lot of money. Dostoyevsky couldnt find the intersection of soul and intellect he idealized in the russian people irl in an increasingly deteriorating tsarist state so he wrote a bunch of books about that. zoomers are lacking emotionally deep relationships (friends and lovers both,) long long art forms (they really latched onto Count of Monte Cristo and i imagine theyd go crazy over a translation of Proust if theyre really rebellious) and the mental muscles for critical thought almost entirely. so, by that, they will generally gravitate towards writing stories that are about people who have deep internal lives, span for hundreds and hundreds of pages and describe the mechanisms of thought in very high granularity. toss in some selfawareness and internet derived-chaos and i think you have your answer
>>25152342Autofiction that tries to integrate the online stream-of-consciousness writing style in some kind of elegant way. Worst Boyfriend Ever
>>25152342Honor Levy???In actuality zoomers who write mostly write fanfic afaik. I'm a zillennial (gay term but accurate ig) and I write epic fantasy. I'd say that doesn't count because it isn't Literature but millennial Literature is worthless anyway.>>25152396You've got me, albeit I got into the Russians bc they were never assigned in HS/college, and McCarthy on a friend's recommendation.
>>25152342I don't even know what millenial writting is, but if you say marvel films i'm going to punch you in the face.
>>25152512Marvel films were made by millennials thoughever
>>25152518Let's say that the millenial generation starts at 1980. I searched for the screenwritters for marvel films all up to phase 3:https://www.imdb.com/es/list/ls089086783/4 of 32 screenwritters have been born after 1980, the rest of them are from the 70s or before. You could have said it was made with millenials in mind, but saying it was made by the them is bullshit.
>>25152387>as if they got no creativity of their ownMajority of zoomies have no creativity
>>25152387Would you say the writing is secondary to the themes? In other words, is the prose just a vessel to suggest a message like multi-culturalism is good, diversity is our strength, female power ect? It appears to me that the text and story are secondary to the sociopolitical opinions personally held by the author being published, similarly to the woke crusade in hollywood and the music industries.
>>25152450more like a 30 y/o, unc
I have Generational War fatigue.l
>>25152342I’m a zoomer and my writing is some weird Frankenstein between Victorian lit and Modernist lit. Someone on /lit/ once compared my prose to Henry James in both a good and bad way (as in, I shared the same pros and cons in my writing as him).Then again, I’m a weird autist, so my style isn’t reflective of most of my generation. If anything, I think most modern writing is too dry and boring.
millenialshits poisioned the well for decades it ain't our fault
>>25152693>IRest in peace anon
>>25152712kek
>>25152700I bet if you posted it, your writing would be instantly recognized as zoomer shit
>>25152342LitRPG web novels
>>25152702It's your fault for being low t low iq halfmen who barely register as human beings.
>>25152916you made us, we're like you but more gay and autsiticadmit it, you're responsible for the downfall
>>25152681>uncI’m young anon, 39 is still young
>>25152926No, it isn't. This sort of cope is unhealthy.
>>25152702I'm sick of millennials being the scapegoat generation.
I’m a gen xer and honestly, I feel our generation didn’t get enough hate, our generation created zoomers for one, and two, have you seen the slop we shat out in our so called artistic endeavours? DFW is the greatest Gen Xer and he fucking sucks
Daily reminder that the average zoomer is practically in their 20s now. The oldest generation of zoomers are late 20s.It's gen alpha.
>>25152933I'm sick of millennials being the whiniest cringe faggots with the largest recorded case of unwarranted self importance ever measured. You bitches are insufferable.
>>25152939The oldest of us are 27 already, we're infiltrating you, slowly...One cog of the machine at a time
>>25152510I like levys book:) t. Esl
>>25152693>>25152712Candlejack got him!
>>25152532Speak for yourself, millennialtard. Your eldest peers are in their mid-40s and the best you niggers have to offer so far is fucking>milk and honey>Stranger Things>Starfleet Academy>DMC NetflixLMAOMAO
>>25153821NTA but the genetic analogues of e.g. Pynchon, Cormac, etc. probably exist in younger generations but are gatekept hard by childless cat ladies or wasting their time on video games and social media.
>>25153824>gatekept hard by childless cat ladiesCan't be that much of a hurdle considering fucking Dungeon Crawler Carl and The Wandering Inn have a massive fanbase of millennials. If 4chan is to believed and this generation truly does laud a decentralized internet (they don't), then any timeless millennial classic would be characterized by an independent online presence, found outside the shitty confines of our modern publication industry>wasting their time on video games and social mediaFar, far more likely to be the case
It takes time to develop taste, I'm in my late 20s and I cringe when I think about the kind of stuff I thought was good writing in my early and even mid 20s.The more things you are exposed to and the higher the quality the more your taste improves, if you can't tell something is good or bad then you can't improve at writing either, you are going in blind, or worse, trying to copy bad writing because you can't tell it's bad.I think the problem millennials have is that they never grew up, their stories are childish, which is what most people call reddit writing, but at the same time I've seen a lot of people on this board who are obsessed with writing in a pretentious manner, they believe that describing every little detail and using complicated words means good writing, but I read a page of their bs and there's a lot of words and nothing actually happening.Unironically the more decent writers on this board are the porn ones.
>>25152387>>25152473>Words words wordsYou ziggas need to learn brevity.t. 23 yo zoomoid
Bald bitch tits soillenials
>>25152342Autofiction about being sad and having sex, or le esotericism. That's it. Zero imagination
What's the millenial style called anyway? Lots of short sentences and metaphors, like it's trying to be monumental and hard hitting.
For zoomer writing you gotta go to discord. Here's an excerpt of literary merit as example:"You look like you were sentenced to 10 years hard labor back in the 80s, talmbout sum “I shit bigger than you nigga!” I’ve dropped elliptical monstrosities, prime semi-axis of 16 - 18 inches long. 1.75 inches across. Dune coon head-ass talking like he’s Tarrare, I’ve eaten 12 eggs in one sitting, downed enough sucrose to shit an actual brick, and had to cut my shit in half, flush, then finish it."
>>25156873True, I noticed this too.They use a lot of appeals to circumvent your preconceived beliefs.Like an episode from the twilight zone.>imagine if you will
>>25152342Chat GPT is the only prolific writer born in the 21st century. Mind you, he's Gen Alpha.
>>25152445Fake demographic. Doesn't exist.
>>25152342Probably 3 archetypes, the same 3 archetypes we've had for a long time.Writers who don't read:>immensely profitable dogshit YA, derivative fantasy/scifi, and legally distinct fanfics imitating dogshit genX/millennial YA, fanfics, and maybe the odd shonen anime, video game or light novel if the writer is a man (mostly smut)Chronically online with literary ambitions:>writer spends more time on twitter, reddit or 4chan than reading, and believes using meme buzzwords and referencing current events is the next huge leap for literature, pretentious as fuck but indistinguishable from a forum postSerious writers:>actually reads and appreciates important literary works and practices and hones their craft to create a style that is both good, and captures what we're going through in our time, not literally in terms of current events, but spirituallyI don't think we've seen many of the latter group in either the millennial or zoomer generations. I think if we do get a Great Zoomer Novel (maybe I'll have to write it) it'll be very schizophrenic, having to deal with (probably among other things) the disconnection from external reality that we experience with the internet and mass media, the way we're all isolated by our own set of currents in the sea of random information designed to serve desires we don't even consciously know we have, and now more than ever before, the way that this bleeds into reality through our actions. Disjointed, somber, probably laden with autistic word-games and intertextual cross-references to obscure anime or something.In summary, I guess if there ever does arise a Great Zoomer Writer, he'd be a lot like Delilo, DFW, or Pynchon, with the paranoia and fragmentation amplified and maybe less irony and probably a lot shorter.
when it's not AI generated, it is just pure spite hiding from itself under the mask of articulation in the structure of a twitter post
>>25158507There will never be a good zoomer novel much less a great one. Zoomers barely qualify as human.
Going to have to wait. Still too young.
>>25158560we are trans-humanwhereas millennials played skyrim, we have modded it into obscurityvampire daddy mods, campfire, survival mechanics, tamriel rebuilt, khajiit maid femboysthe glory you will find once you let go of your preconcieved human assumptions is liberating.
>>25159971>zoomoids>being able to use a mouse, let alone mod gamesYour gen pays for v-bucks on fortnite
This era in history constitutes people born from 1945-2000, we’re all the same generation on a larger scale.
>>25160091Unbelievably wrong. Never post again.
>>25160093We really are though, a thousand years from now our stupid generational war will be a footnote in history.
White men are literally boxed out of publishing anything, essentially zero hope of making it as a zoomer writer
>>25158507Any aspiring white zoomer writer is cattle prodded out by some cunt professor in ENC 1101
>>25160141>white zoomerno such animal
I’ve never seen a “white” zoomer without broccoli hair that would very well look more fitting on a nigger. What I’m saying is that with natural hair like that, they can’t be as white as previous generations.
>>25160106That's hard to say.We are living in an era of extraordinarily rapid cultural change. The 'generation wars' happen because the cultural change has been so rapid, generations are disconnected from each other in ways they never were before. There have always been conflicts between youth and old people, but not because each new generation faces a new and different wave of intense propaganda and cultural values.
>>25152348As a zoomie, I can write but I do admit my concentration is kinda lowIt's the new alphas you should be wary of, I hear they have 5yo level writing in 4th grade. They can't even write a single paragraph let alone an essay or analysis
>>25152473not using capital letters just makes you sound like a poser though
>>25160310I thought I wrote this reply in my zoomer state of derangement
The same boring bait spam, the same braindead replies. For a supposedly smart board it's interesting that the average thread quality is on par with /v/.
>>25160448And you're... suprised at this? C'mon man..
>>25160448>gamer here, I think--Don't care
>>25161021Its men who are oppressed these days and they are the young voices people are the most thirsty to read, but they also cant get published
>>25152512>but if you say marvel films i'm going to punch you in the face.Oh, we have a bad boy here, folks.
>>25160448Hahaha you go to /v/ what a fucking loser, go back and talk about your favourite Mario brothers slop you faggot.
>>25160448top 3 favorite russian symbolists, since you're such an intellectual?
>>25161836NTA but I’ve only read Bely, and I loved Petersburg, it’s one of my five favourite books. Any more recommendations for these fellers?
>>25152473>so, by that, they will generally gravitate towards writing stories that are about people who have deep internal lives, span for hundreds and hundreds of pages and describe the mechanisms of thought in very high granularity. toss in some selfawareness and internet derived-chaos and i think you have your answerWhy exactly do they do this "examination of the soul/subconscious" spiel when they themselves have never even examined their own perceptions of their reality, much less the perspectives of other people's, and much, much less the functions of which our universe and reality is governed by?
