It’s fucking over
qrd?
AI slop was uncovered and the book was pulled and everyone was happy about it. The resistance to AI slop appears to hold even in the muck of the feral-girl lit genre. It is very much not over.
>>25152810what bits did the AI write and how did anyone find out?
>>25153047A lying tranny made a 2 hours essay where she was seething about being filtered by this self published litfic, which got taken off the market because iirc Hachette bought the rights to publish it.The self published version, which she reviews, was obviously pretty bad (bad formatting, copyrighted cover, cheap paper,etc.), so this is another reason for why the publisher is republishing the book as a new product, rather than just a reprint. I skimmed through the video and I saw the youtuber getting angry because Ballard uses too many times an expression that a completely different author doesn't use in a completely different book. Absolute shit tier analysis, imho, but the normies deemed it enough to stir up some drama.The video got so popular that the publisher refuses to publish the book in the US.The video: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GbeKTa5xhZoThe quality of her channel is pretty ass https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z8gf3On8Q2w. I think everyone isn't telling her to fuck off just because she is a tranny.
Maybe using AI isn't actually so bad.
>>25153283What?
Can’t follow anything happening in this thread.
timmys angry people not in the writing skills can have the novel publish now, white not only color can write the book
>>25153557black woman self-publishes slop that turns out to be AIslop and nearly got published by hachette (release was to be in april) until someone on youtube called it outpeople are melting down online over it because it getting this far, including through editors for one of the biggest publishers, is unnerving to them and they can no longer trust that their slop is humanslop instead of AIslopalso because it signals the end of self-publishing
>>25153629>also because it signals the end of self-publishingI have a Royal Road story that's about half AI and doing very well. Also a Substack that's like 80% AI. I don't know how long I can keep this up but it looks like I'm heading in a good direction financially from this.
>>25153639well done anon. as long as you're aware traditional publishing under that alias (you didn't use your real name... right?) won't be possible
>>25153644I wouldn't publish under my real name regardless because the writing is slop, but yeah I don't want to get lynched either.
>>25153047An author named Mia Ballard published a horror novel titled 'Shy Girl' on Amazon. Hachette, desperate to find the next big hit, picked up 'Shy Girl' for traditional publication. An AI-detection company then audited the text for AI and found that almost all of it was, in fact, AI-written. Much gnashing of teeth ensued on social media. People are protective of human civilization; go figure. Hachette canceled publication and Ballard got lynched in the literary world.
figures yall woold take this as a excuse to attack ambush and assault a writer of color instead of turn the mirror on your own damn self and ask why yall people invent AI in the first damn place
>>25154030Please, improve your English, mr. Retard
>>25153808>Hachette, desperate to find the next big hit, picked up 'Shy Girl' for traditional publicationIt had already ammassed like 5k ratings on goodreads before Ballard sold the rights to Hachette, thoughbeit.>An AI-detection companyKek.>>25153420Check the other replies.
>>25153629> because it getting this far, including through editors for one of the biggest publishers, is unnerving to themThe editors have been replaced with AI slop as well, nobody reads anything.
>>25153808> AI-detection company then audited the text for AI and found that almost all of it was, in fact, AI-writtenForgot to scoff at this as well, these fucking fairies are ALSO AI sloppers and are defeated by texts predating LLMs all the time. Roll two D10 and get your % number of AI “probability”. Congrats you now have an AI detection company that does not use AI. I’ll take my 100 million dollar seed funding now Mr Shekelstein.
>>25154184Everyone is fully distracted and demoralized. The elites won. All they have to do now is cull us once their killbots are online.
>>25154042Are you saying it might not be ai, and normies just can't into reading?
>>25153639What's the content of the substack?
>>25154239Furry porn with a Spenglerian and Evolian bent
>>25153047Hachette was about to publish a genre slop novel about a women being abducted to serve as someone's pet-girl. Just prior to publishing it was discoverd the pet-rape novel was authored byu AI, and Hachette cancelled publication.
>>25154268How would anyone know unless the retard admitted they used AI?
Let's recap where the culture is at. Women have reached a level of hunger for novels about women being raped (the same women who will get you fired for sexual harassment at the drop of a hat) that giant data centers are poisoning the atmosphere to grind out such novels for their consumption. We are moving heaven and earth and using the cutting edge of science and technology to create machine slaves that will reduce the friction between your average woman and her orgasm over the thought of being raped. That's how bad things are, and they're only going to get worse. Much, much, much worse.
>>25154269It was previously self-published and pet-rape genreslop afficiandos realised it didn't meet their expected standards and investigated further.
>>25154233>Are you saying it might not be aiYeah, I'm trying to be impartial.>and normies just can't into reading?First of all, one pathologically lying, severely autistic tranny isn't the normies. However, I do think that the normies are piggibacking off of a 2 and a half hours video, about a book that got read more or less 5000 times (cfr. its goodreads page). The video was seen 1.2 million times, practically none of them read the book.The "normies" (as much as literary horror readers can be considered normies) that read it seemed to like it, which is why Hachette bought the rights in the first place. It's unheard off when a self published litfic gets 5000 ratings on goodreads, anon. And yet.Personally I don't really care about the book, let alone the literary horror genre. I won't read it, nor will I watch the yt essay.However, if there's someone who I don't deem capable of judging serious literature, then it's an autistic woman who cut off her tits because of her porn addiction. Since someone like that is bashing a sexually themed horror novel, my first assumption is that she either got filtered or she couldn't jerk off to it. Either way, I just don't trust the critical source enough to disregard the appreciation of those who I consider competent to judge the book (i.e. those who read, recommended and enjoyed the book before this shitstorm).
>>25154300Why would readers of genre-slop make good arbiters of taste? Of course they love AI-slop. Mechanical writing is slop whether written by human or machine. These readers love the former and now the latter.
Can we stop calling this doggerel litfic? Nothing literary about this book or the variations of slop trannies and gooning women read.
>>25154327This is not genre slop, anon.It's literary horror (Dracula, Frankenstein, etc.), specifically psychological horror.It's actually a subgenre of what is called psychological fiction.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_fictionSince the focus is not on the plot, but on the characters, then it's traditionally considered a litfic.
>>25154369Lmao. Fuck off, fag
>>25154369This is big time cope friend, what is literary about it?
>it can't be literary because a woman wrote it
>needing to strawman like a fag because you can’t defend your position KWAB. Probably a tranny
>>25154300>>25154369You are retarded. Also you haven't read the book. Also now the assumption is that someone at Hackett Publishing say a YouTube video and cancelled a book because of it? You better be 14 or under. Go outside.
>>25154233There's no way to conclusively determine if something was written by AI short of catching the author in the act. That means catching metadata in a draft or having access to their conversations with the AI. Anything short of that, like blackbox statistical analysis, does not meet the standard of proof positive. That doesn't matter because people are stupid, but it should.
>>25154378>This is big time cope friendWhat do you mean? You think I'm so insecure I have to elevate the stuff I read to cope with reading slop? I openly read romance novels, I posted about it on /lit/ too. I don't have to pretend to read serious literature, because I do, and if I do, I post about it.It wouldn't change a thing for me if this book was pure genre slop, as I said, I don't read literary horror.>>25154392>>25154397Did you seriously just pretended to be me to respond to yourself? Kek.
>>25154423Holy fuck you’re functionally illiterate
>>25154418>Also you haven't read the bookOn /lit/? Are you serious?And it's a psychological horror according to al least this guy, which came up on the first page of Google when you search for this book.https://www.deadendfollies.com/blog/book-review-mia-ballard-shy-girlI'll run with it, since the premise of the book on Goodreads starts as "Lonely, broke and depressed with a serious case of OCD..." Pretty psychological to me, don't know about you.
The amount of seethe ITT makes me wonder how many of you are trannies who got all riled up because someone is disagreeing with one of your kind.Cope, seethe, dilate and make it to 42%.
Guys guys guys calm down. Lets look at the text ourselves and see if we can determine if this was written by AI or a lone sexy black woman
>>25154477Stopped halfway through the second sentence. This is genreslop, no matter who the author is.
>>25154477I can say one thing for sure: that is definitely NOT genre slop.
>>25154477This is why I avoid literary horror.
>>25154477How am I meant to feel after reading this?
>>25154477>standing on the edge of a bad decision>it's like staring at a box with DO NOT OPEN: Bad Decisions InsideTwo killer metaphors in the first two sentences. Wow. Mary Shelley eat your heart out.
>>25154477Stopped reading after the first sentence. Definitely AI. Truly soulless genre-slop.
>>25154486If you're trans, upset. If you're not, then assured that this is psychological literary horror.
>>25154491Less dry than the pinnacle of literary romance, thoughbeit.
>>25154494I felt nothing.
>>25154477For comparison, a literary horror novel which won a lot of prizes.
>>25154501“And then the vampire billionaire swoons in, eyes locked in obsessive desire for Lorraine (I guess). Lorraine was really fucking plain looking and the vampire billionaire was like, the most handsome sexlord you ever did descry, yet, with covetous power he grabbed her and raped her, it was really spicy stuff”
>>25154508>Fog spread across the glass like condensation in a room where someone has been sleeping deeply, like the dead.Waldun-tier proses
>>25154501That's Normal People by Sally Rooney.>>25154508That's Strega by Johanne Lykke Holm.Picrel is the single other literary horror novel that I have read, and I did enjoy its prose. Natural Beauty by Ling Ling Huang.
I had seen it before among the recommendations of other 'weird girl' (I think they call it) litfics on goodreads, so I hadn't thought it would be genre. Possibly on the threshold of, sharing certain themes. But /lit/ is too quick on dismissing, female writing especially, and especially the overuse of that thing-I-don't-like word, slop. But then again most literary fiction nowadays is characterized by a most basic writing style, and would be, if it seeks something of a larger readership.
>>25154543>weird girlOh yeah? What other “weird girl” recs are there? Since they’re so weird and all I’m sure there’re some rather unorthodox, transgressive books in there?
>>25154501Boring, but I suppose it is the opening page of a book called "Normal People" so it's probably intentional.>>25154508Inexcusable>>25154523>Balletic and rigorous in his economy of movement>>25154543This one is literally written by AI>>25154547I read the first half of Bunny and it was okay. Lost steam quick though
>>25154547idk, Paradise Logic, Bitter Water Opera, Earth Angel, the infamous First Book, things like that
>>25154477>>25154477Overuse of em dash and semicolon heavy AI markers. However I almost feel like AI wouldn’t do amateur hour shit like the same metaphors twice. Knowing my hands will tear through the lid AND pry it open to see how bad it can get? Three kinds of broke?But then I haven’t used this sloppa generation enough to know what it favours. The thing with AI is it strikes twice. Low effort bad writing it can do. All peon writing jobs like listicles and hot takes based on a tweet that was replaced with AI immediately. The more insidious kind is medium to high skill artists using AI to speed up their workflow. Digital painters use AI slop to trace backgrounds or generate colour palettes to do 2x or more work than they did. Which gets them more money until the productivity boost is the norm now you need AI slop workflow just to keep up with expectations and getting paid less than before. Office workers and teachers slop it up to “effectivize”. Authors will do it too, but I’m less sure what it looks like. Do you make outlines? Character descriptions? Flavour text? You become more of an editor trying to slap a project together? Anyway it will work the same, part human part machine, faster “content” production. Slop it up so they can gobble it down fast then produce more slop. Used to be the realm of Harlequin novels and author brand names that got 12 ghostwriters to shit out a book every 6 months.
>>25154547Paradise Rot has a pretty unhinged page on Goodreads.
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>>25154600Juvenile.
>>25154392I don't know who you're quoting of what specifically you're talking about, but yes, that's true.
>self published book gains popularity >trad publishers snatch it up immediately >before it can even be sold in the US people discover it's AI slop>it gets immediately canceled In case you were wondering whether or not the big five publishers were a bunch of fucking idiots, here's your answer.
>>25155460I worked for one. I remember mentioning 'Leaves of Grass' to a colleague and she just looked at me and said, with complete sincerity, "How does grass have leaves?"Believe it or not, /lit/, you reprobates are more literate than 99% of people in the professional literary world.
Well, I downloaded Shy Girl. This is the first page and I'm 100% certain it's AI.
>>25153289would sexy bitch
>>25155494She gak gak like she can only get her freedom if you cum
>>25154477>the kind>the kind>the kind Here's an AI tell no one ever talks about. The kind of tell that makes you go, oh yeah, this cunt is toast.
>>25154422I'm going to disagree. I think it's very easy to tell if something is AI and to definitely prove it without a shadow of doubt all it would take is a very brief interview with the author. >>25154477This is horror? It seems no different from romantasy.
>>25154477100% AI>standing on the edge of a bad decision that feels both ridiculous and inevitable. That's an AI metaphor, but the clause with two feelings takced on at the end solidifies it as AI. >a box that says "Do not open: bad decisions inside"AI humor. Inoffensive. >I'm broke-- not the latte-skipping, tightening the belt kind of broke, but the hollow, all consuming kind. The kind... Not ___, but ____. >The kind that (example 1), (example 2), (example 3).>Desperstion doesnt crash down...; it seeps in, quiet and steady... Not ____, but _____. This is so obviously AI. Everyone at Hatchette should fucking kill themselves for being this retarded. This is going to sound crazy, but this "novel" sounds exactly like a tiktok video with an AI narrator. More specifically, it sounds like one of those stick figure animation historical videos about slavery. And yes, this is a thing that exists: AI narrated animated videos about slavery. They're popular. Videos about being a slave girl in ancient Egypt. Videos about being a concubine in ancient China. And it's not just the subject matter that's the same, it's the tone. That rhythmic sentence structure. That very simplistic language. The metaphors. The cadence. I wouldn't be surprised if they were generated with the very same AI.
>>25155575All on page 1, too. 4.1 average on amazon with 300+ reviews, btw. We're gonna have an AI bestseller next year. We're done.
>>25155626People have always been troglodytes. What's new?
>>25155636Readers weren't always troglodytes
>>25155647Only because most people in history couldn't read.
>>25154477>not>doesn't>didn'tI hate this "not X, it's Y" shit so much
BUMP BECAUSE THIS IS THE REAL THREAD ABOUT THIS BOOK AND NOT THE OTHER ONE AND WE DON'T NEED TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>25156681Trannyjanny won't delete the other one, since this is a certified trans victory.
What the fuck is literary horror?
>>25156737Lovecraft
>>25154282>that giant data centers are poisoning the atmosphere to grind out such novels for their consumptionLet's keep our women hate factual please.
>>25156959>Lovecraft>literaryijbol
>>25154501Play while reading:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpJEg6MTPzc
>>25154269AI is incredibly easy to detect if used lazily and if used competently usually leaves artifacts that can be picked up on with basic forensics. Of course this is only true if it is private citizens of minimal means using it.
>>25153289
They need to heavily monitor ai sites and make people pay per paragraph. That will stop this nonsense.
>>25154572as an experienced chatbot gooner I can tell you that passage is exactly what Claude 4+ would produce if you asked it for "mature, psychological thriller novel featuring character x doing y"but it could be any recent model since they're all trained on Claude nowAI slop ouroboros
>>25153639kill yourself painfully
>>25153283What's up with le heckin all lowercase?
>>25152810FYI, for some reason no one is mentioning it, but the author is some weirdo black tranny. That tells you everything you need to know about this book and why publishers wanted to platform it. It's hilarious to see liberals who praised the book for "capturing female rage" when it's literally just a rape fetish novel written by a mentally disturbed black man.
>>25154300Not to get too conspiratoorial but how hard could it be to bot goodread in hope of getting published.
>>25155520You can disagree until you're blue in the face but you're still objectively wrong.
>>25153283>A lying tranny>sheso it's a girl larping as a guy? that's more interesting
>>25158495>artifacts You mean words like “tapestry”?
>>25161303A pooner, I believe they call 'em. Just hover o'er the video, yes.
>>25156974Lovecraft is 100x more literary than the ebonics junk that gets Nobel prizes today.
>>25161619No, like invisible characters that only show up with you copy paste something. It won't show up in your word processor but it will show up in special programs.
>>25160281Closest we'll get to a great buckbreaking novel
>>25154477seems like basic chick lit to me, i assume it's all this florid and histrionic
>>25161809It already exists.
>>25152810Just dont read slop, its simple as thatJust checked out this trash, its trash.Friendly reminder that AI slop is just a subset of slop. There was always and there always will be slop.Just read trusted authors, ~~classics~~ and old esteemed books
Honestly I just want consumer AI banned. It's brought nothing good and has made everything much worse.
Anyway, I'm sure it was a degenerate book, featuring, like every other release nowadays, gratuitous normalised fellatio.
>>25162790I agree. We should only let our masters use AI. Surely they will only use it for good. I love our masters.
