>One is struck, in examining the psychic economy of the ordinary adherent of religious theism, by the unmistakable persistence of infantile configurations which, though ostensibly renounced, continue to exercise a determining influence upon the adult personality. The longing for a supreme paternal agency, omniscient, punitive yet protective, and above all guarantor of post-mortem continuity betrays not merely a metaphysical inclination, but the reanimation of the earliest object-relations of the child. In this figure of the divine Father, the subject rediscovers the lost authority before whom ambivalence first arose: love intertwined with fear, submission bound to latent rebellion. The promise of bodily survival beyond death further discloses the ego’s refusal to relinquish its narcissistic investments, a refusal grounded in anxieties whose origin can be traced to the vicissitudes of psychosexual development. >Here, the residues of repression, particularly those surrounding forbidden wishes and unresolved conflicts, seek symbolic satisfaction in the construction of a cosmos that mirrors the child’s earliest need for order, protection, and the indefinite prolongation of its own corporeal existence.>More revealing still is the manner in which these religious dispositions align themselves with the character formations associated with the anal stage, wherein questions of control, retention, and expulsion first assume psychological significance. We encounter, on the one hand, the anal-retentive type: scrupulous, ascetic, and morally exacting, whose religiosity is marked by an exaggerated concern with purity, law, and the meticulous observance of ritual. In him, the instinctual economy has been diverted into rigid channels, and the divine Father becomes the supreme custodian of order, reflecting the subject’s own compulsion toward control and preservation. >On the other hand stands the anal-expulsive type: demonstrative, emotionally effusive, and prone to ecstatic surrender, whose religious life is characterized by outpourings of devotion, confession, and a desire for cathartic release. Here, the same instinctual roots manifest in a contrary fashion, privileging discharge over restraint, yet no less bound to the same archaic matrix. In both instances, the theological edifice reveals itself as a sublimated continuation of early libidinal struggles, wherein the adult, under the guise of piety, regresses to a more primitive organization of desire, seeking in the divine relation a resolution to conflicts that remain, at their core, unresolved.- Sigmund Freud, ‘Inhibitions, Symptoms and Anxiety’ - chapter 3Was he right?
>>25158508op really?
>>25158508>psychic economy>residues of repression >submission bound to latent rebellion And again>instinctual economyWhat insufferable Jewish twaddle.
Have you already gone through the anal stage?
they despise this trvke
Just mouthing off about a bunch of bullshit he vaguely understands.
>>25158508>One is struck, in examining the psychic economy of the ordinary adherent of religious theism, by the unmistakable persistence of infantile configurations which, though ostensibly renounced, continue to exercise a determining influence upon the adult personality. The longing for a supreme paternal agency, omniscient, punitive yet protective, and above all guarantor of post-mortem continuity betrays not merely a metaphysical inclination, but the reanimation of the earliest object-relations of the childmmmh.... it is almost as if adults are just grown up children instead of metaphysically separate beings.... it really makes one pondereth.....
He's completely correct on every level
>>25158508He's wrong because he's a jew.
Freud is passe but Jung keeps going
>>25158666Yes trvke
>>25158559>>25158659He's right because he compared liking God to shitting?
>>25158674He is right that religoids are mental defectives, yes
>>25158682Why?
>>25158682Rich coming from a group that calls themselves "God's Chosen People"
>>25158686Freud just told you why, quit being thick.
>>25158742But all Freudian critique is exactly like that.
>>25158508uncomfortably correct
>>25158508Pure kikeslop.
>>25158888checked
Christians literally believe in a "Heavenly Father". They were deeply Freudian long before Freud was even born.
>>25162378doesn't explain why that's le bad.
>>25162395Freud just explained why if you read the OP. They are stuck as a child, perpetually infantilized internally, desiring a permanent daddy figure to take care of them and make them live forever, but because they are mentally unwell, they also want daddy to punish them for doing bad things. They want to love someone who they fear, the essence of sadomasochism, the essence of the slave master relationship, the essence of subjection, of abjection, of a desire to be ruled over, controlled. Sex is sinful and sky daddy must punish sex, so we will cut up the genitals of our sons as the dear leader has ordered. It's one of the most pernicious and widespread pathologies, and of course for someone suffering from it they deny it and can't see it, but for someone outside observing it, it is grotesque in the extreme.
>>25158508The most militant fervent, fanatical atheist was a Russian-Estonian half breed who was so afraid and submissive to his father that, were his father to offer him his cock, he would have swallowed without even the barest sign passive resistance.That was the biggest clue, to me, that Freud was correct about religion. I think if you analyze the early childhood of atheists, you'll find a deep conflict with the father, too.A low IQ atheist aims Freud towards religiontards.A high IQ intellectual, by applying thinking, understands how atheism grew out of the same anal focus and is mere rebellion against potty training (see the the connection between the shit fetish that is homosexuality and atheism).Genius IQ Advaitins stay winning.
>>25162461kek, even trying to defend religion, people still have to compare it with potty training. Just a little hint here, anon, you're supposed to grow out of potty training when you mature and learn to regulate yourself independently. If you keep going back to daddy to help you with potty forever, you have serious mental issues.
>>25162427you didn't explain why it's bad. in fact, you didn't even establish a ground of normativity to differentiate a healthy or unhealthy psyche.
>>25162490>Freudians the very picosecond someone references penises or shit in a post that mentions God
Freud was refuted by the existence of worker ants that don't, nor can breed.
>>25158559I'm going through it right now.
>>25162461Who is that half-breed that you are talking about?
>>25162461>Genius IQ Advaitins stay winning.True, high-IQ intellectual-elite Metaphysician and Esotericism types whether Western or Eastern both transcend the atheist-materialist versus anal/childhood-pathology-driven normie theism duality entirely, although Advaita is a particularly-good example of this.
>>25158508Jvwkyke
>>25158666>>25158888
>>25158662>>25158529>>25158703>he is (heh) le joo (heheh)
>>25158508insufferable pseudoscienceall of the points are unfalsifiable
>>25158529>I did not read the works in which he explains these concepts and this makes me mad
>>25158508what whites have to understand about freud is he is honestly describing jewish mentalities and jewish sexuality
>>25162531>infantile regression disorders aren’t bad>creating imaginary sky daddy delusion isn’t bad>performing genital mutilation for imagined bdsm with sky daddy delusion isn’t badOnly on 4chan, folks.>>25162603The “libido” Freud talks about relates to a good chunk of non-essential (i.e, for sustenance, for homeostasis) activities that we do on a daily basis. Neuroscientists argue the dopamine-seeking mechanisms of the nervous system and the body are the closest correlate to Freud’s libido. Common use of “libido” and the term “sexual” refer to those psychic phenomena connected to the genitals and erogenous zones of the body, but Freud extended the meaning beyond those phenomena.
>>25163410I love how mossadic agents have been trying to scapegoat indians for the past couple of years to distract from antisemitism campaigns being pushed here.
>>25163582>>infantile regression disorders aren’t bad>>creating imaginary sky daddy delusion isn’t badwaiting for the argument>>performing genital mutilation for imagined bdsm with sky daddy delusion isn’t badhe's the jew.
Freud, Sigmund. A figure of fun. Loathe him. Vile deceit. Freudian interpretation of dreams is charlatanic, and satanic, nonsense.
>>25158508>some kike misunderstands nietzsche>OY VEY YOU STOOPID GOYS, ALL YER DESIRES ARE SUBLIMATED ORAL FIXATIONS AND INFERIORITY COMPLEXES!!this guy is directly responsible for every liberal perversion being seen as good and natural and every normal desire being seen as sublimated homosexuality/ anxiety btw
>>25163698nah he just exposed you cant accept the end of your life
>>25163731he exposed nothing, he projected his jewish anxieties/ perversions onto others
>>25163731why do atheists make these kind of "arguments" and assume its not their own projection speaking lol
>>25158508Freud is for midwits. You can critique Abrahamic religions without reducing it to perverse sexual anxieties
>>25158508This guy was a fucking degenerate. Of course he hated religion.
>>25163518It's word salad, sorry blud.
>>25163992Not really. To put one example, "economy" is one of the three elements of metapsychology, the other two being topography and dynamic. It refers to the changes of the psychic energies. To put one example of the example, imagine your psyche is unavle, but your mind is unable to fulfill it, then your mind will change that psychic energy into another thing to fulfill the desire. Explained in "The Unconscious" (1915). The other concepts are explained in the specific texts for repression and childhood sexuality. /lit/ advice: if someone says you didn't read the author and you are wrong, and you effectively didn't read the author, then there is a gigantic probability that you are wrong.
>>25164038Unable*phoneposting
>>25163584delusional kid
>>25163410>if you hate the jews, you must be browneveryone hates the jews, and always has
>>25164038As I said: Word salad.
>>25164376Yes, its just pure coincidence there's been a stronger pushback against antisemtitism right around the time the Epstein files were released and Israel made America convene their pro-Israeli campaign in the Middle East. We also conveniently memory-hole'd the fact /lit/ used to have nothing but good things to say about the Vedas, up until around the point it was used as a cudgel against jews and judaic thought by depicting ancient aryans as street shitting atavistics (as if modern indians weren't a mutt off-shoot of a billion other races).Kys, kike.
>>25158508we are a microcosm (Child) of our macrocosmic Creator (Father).in this microcosm we have a Mind (Ego), Body (Id), and Spirit (Superego) in the triune image of the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit.Why should I listen to Freud when theologians were saying this millenia ago?Why not listen to these Saints who speak more clearly and are noble good truthful people?Anything but God, right?
>>25164631Have you read the Vedas? How would you advice to do so?
>>25164734Not him but the Upanishads are the part of the Vedas that are the most spiritually and philosophically interesting, you can purchase translations of individual Upanishads individually or as a compilation that has many of them. The earlier poetic parts of the Veda is not philosophically deep, and what mystical ideas there are is expressed only sparsely and obliquely in contrast to the Upanishads which are extremely rich spiritually and philosophically etc
>>25163592>waiting for the argumentfuck off to /d/, cumshroom farmer>>25163801Atheist projection is something else entirely. In just the same way that Freud identified elements of the childhood Father figure in many religions, one could also psychoanalyze atheists and see many elements of childhood traumas connected with learning in them. Specifically, the trauma of being watched by one’s parents, and the trauma of losing belief in one’s own parents’ (or parent figures’) heroic and virtuous qualities. The former leads to an absolute aversion to deities as atheists cannot stand a deity that is able to supernaturally observe them, and the latter leads to an obsession on criteria such as “objective”, “evidence-based”, “peer-reviewed”, “Occam’s razor-passing” and so on as they have lost belief in the supernatural Father and Mother deities and now lack it in exactly the same way a child believes their parents are “great” and “super”, but then lose that belief traumatically when mom drinks wine in front of them for the first time.
>>25165845>fuck off to /d/, cumshroom farmerlet me be less obscure then: how can you possibly point to the existence of a healthy psyche via freudian analyses without resorting to platonism? you can easily make a case for every human on this planet being an "overgrown child" estranged from their father and mother figures just like you do the christians, or whichever boogeyman catches your fancy. again, what does it truly mean for a person to not rely on "cope" to navigate through life? is that a more "correct" view solely because you arbitrarily declare negative value judgement on the so-called "coping mechanism"?
Let me translate this to>Fuck my mother. I want to fuck my mother. Fuck my mother. Fuck mother. Fuck. Mother. Fuck fuck fuck. Mother mother mother. Give me funding.
>>25162378>Christians literally believe in a "Heavenly Father"Based
>>25158508based
>>25158508He writes like someone not smart trying to sound smart
>>25166494It's a cult for the terminally infantile.
>>25166804first time reading psychology?
>>25165927>LET ME COPE AND SEETHE!!!!!!!!Ok. Cope. Seethe.Just so you know, if you read the rest of my reply you will see that I make the same reasoning for atheism as well. Psychoanalysis cannot support religion or the lack of religion, both are cope.
>>25168104>retard sputterings when you realize freudian analyses is nothing more besides narcissistic suspicion mongering pioneered by the nietzschean traditionyou love to see it.
>>25168124>I can’t understand, so let me paint you as the retard and me as the intellectual on chan greentext with a nietzsche mention to look smartOk.
>>25168128>>I can’t understanddo you?
>>25168128also the comment about nietzsche isn't an irrelevant non-sequitur, freud owes the fruits of his entire opus to him.
>>25158508
>>25168136>>25168141Do you need two replies to reply to a single greentext sentence? Maybe you wouldn’t if you bothered reading instead of immediately seething to reply and bumping this thread up. You know, this is /lit/, hub of readers and writers, not /d/.
>>25168200you lost.
>>25168210Here’s your prize for winning!!!!! Another round of applause please!!!!!
>>25168224(You)
How many father stand inside do the Christians need. It's pretty funny
>>25168272Only the One.
>>25168104>Just so you know, if you read the rest of my reply you will see that I make the same reasoning for atheism as well. Anon's point is that Freudian analyses can only ever be used to put people down, and in general make a mockery of the human condition.>b-b-b-but atheists are just as badAnd? Freud is a materialistic atheist himself.
