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I read Plato, and it was really, really boring. Now what?
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>>25160116
The Hungry Caterpillar might be more your speed, little guy
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>>25160116
You read everything? Go on then, what did you retain? And tell us why you found him so boring?
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>>25160116
Take a break from reading and try to make a habit of meditating.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=PxJ0N2vq2GM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl-44jDYDJQ
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Go for a walk.

Breathe. Stop thinking so much.

>>>/out/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8HJtfw4BSQA
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>>25160150
>>25160163

found the "they told me to read it and I don't have any natural self-esteem and they must be smart and know what they're talking about so now i defend their opinions because mine are too wormish to bring up" crew

Tunnel snakes rule
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>>25160862
he just asked you a question, hysterical woman
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>>25161504

>apprentice in the principles of energy expenditure
>any question is just asking a question no matter the content

brother, be well
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>>25161544
What a roundabout way to just say you won’t answer the question. Start with the Greeks.
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>>25160116
Now read Neetzuh.
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>>25161728
>touting plato
>not understanding the true implication of anything said to them
>not being well
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>>25160257
buy an advertisement
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>>25160150
Lmaooooo
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>>25162499
>demonic jester trolling in mongolian forum cause loser life
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>>25160116
Now drink hemlock.
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>>25163625
>condemning legitimate humanistic concern
>deserving of the sulfur
>not seeking health
>loser spook
>selective learner
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>>25161777
retard that lost his mind and died in fear
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>>25163640
>fearing fear
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>>25163632
>humanistic concern
>for an inhuman self
>the sulfur was always yours
>you just called it health
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Not OP. Slowly going through Plato right now, had gotten through Socrate's apology, that talk in prison with the guy wanting to resque him, talk with actor about praising Homer and going now through temperance one.
While there are clearly some interesting, but (compared with today) unfinished and flawes ideas, it seems to me, that Plato hadn't really liked Socrates, for so far Socrates is depicted as one pulling sophism after sophism (especially on his trial) and most of other go in a way of "here is an idea, Socrates - i say a) - yes, Socrates - i say b) - you're right, Socrates - i say c) - truly true, Socrates - see, my ideas are good and yours are wrong" without questioning his own ideas as if he had the goal not to solve the problem, but to enforce his own point of view - which makes Socrates being shown in Plato's works as a little lying shithead, who intentionally misleads others.
But, while i have heard, that cunning for greeks are praisable quality, it only qualifies Socrates in Plato's works as a greek, not a wiseman - or at least as a wiseman inhabiting a country of fools, whom he thinks he is supposed to lead to The Brighter Future(tm).
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>>25163661
>a hair off understanding metaphysical ownership
>better than most
>spooked by the negative implications of sulfur
>placing health far in distance from a mighty mineral
>any self being human
>spooked by the idea of humanness
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>believing in anything
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>>25163699
That's my boy
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i never really understood the point of saying start with the greeks without telling the person why they are a big deal, just read plato, instead of saying that plato was the first to think about this this way, before him, people thought about this that way, that's a more useful way to make people interested instead of just flat out start with the greeks when so many other distractions are competing for your attention
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>>25163750
I always thought it was pretty silly to imply that a person couldn't read that kind of thing in any order, and connect them chronologically in their head afterwards (if they even wanted to)
Bit too much focus on tradition. Kind of kills the actual atmosphere of good philosophy
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>>25160150
fpbp
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>>25160116
You started with the wrong Greeks,
Fuck the philosophers. Read the historians.
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>>25165122
Just start with Homer and Hesiod, then read Sophocles and Euripides, then Ovid and Marriage of Eros and Psyche, then repeat until you die.
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now read the clouds by aristophanes and you'll have a good laugh
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>>25160116
you need to read plato and nietzsche together,



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