Literature peaked 3000 years ago, how is possible that the first book written is also the best book ever written
Sorry but nobody actually has this opinion
>>25161324Brown tradcath warning
>>25161328Sincerely could not be more wrong>claiming to revel joyously in the illiad>being this low tier
>>25161324post one book you think is better than the Iliad and i will tell you why you're wrong
>>25161340>the legendary replygo sweat nextdoor anon
>>25161340Mémoires d'Outre-Tombe
>>25161338Denounce Christ
>>25161340Infinite Jest
>>25161321I don't think it's 'the best', but it's easily in my top 5. It's remarkable, the Odyssey doesn't quite hit me the same way.
>>25161350>the start of an obsession
>>25161370Goycuck confirmed
>>25161421>easily predicted>trapped by failing ego
>>25161321>the first book written
>>25161321It’s the only book you’ve ever read, isn’t it OP? Yes, it’s good that you started with the Greeks, but you don’t just stop after you’ve read your first book!
>>25161321Isn't epic of Gilgamesh the first book?
>>25161483Yes, OP is retarded though
>>25161421lol
>>25161340Virgil
>>25161348>my memories>my life>my feelings >my thoughts>how I feel >my vision my observationseverything is me me me me me book for women also being french makes it automatically gay>>25161352lmao>>25161601the Aeneid is badly written copy of the Iliad written for propaganda purposes
>>25161340Odyssey
>>25161613>written for propaganda purposesSure, maybe. But there are also anti-Augustan undertones.>badly writtenYou're mad. On a purely technical level, Virgil is above Homer. Where Homer shines are his characters.
>>25161421owned kek
>>25161340the OdysseyPetersburgUlysses
>>25161670shameless knock off copy that lacks the emotional depth and message of the Iliad >>25161692>>25161639the odyssey is second best to be honest after the iliad
>>25161692OP here, I’ve decided on second thought that you’re right actually, these are all better than the Iliad.
Vote for the odyssey if you truly feel so https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVq3Dan3
>>25161340The Aeneid, the Commedia.
OP is a teenager and started reading within the last two years
>>25161692These>>25161716TheseAlso, Hamlet, Paradife Loft, Metamorphoses, Faust, Moby Dick.
>>25161321It's not the first book written and it being so good is precisly the reason why it has survived so long.
>>25161324I do. It truly is the greatest. Nothing else earns its length in the way the Iliad does
>>25161776Ye olde capeshit
>>25161783Name something you think is better and I'll tell you why you're wrong
>>25161350Denounce your skull from your shoulders
>>25161793Paradise Lost.
>>25161811It's not a real epic, and it's tremendously dull. Far too didactic as well
>>25161850I'm trans btw, not sure if that matters
>>25161850What’s wrong with didacticism? Plus, I can only give you the “dull” and “didactic” argument for the Adam segments, anything involving Satan or Eve feels grand and sonorous, should I say.
>>25161340
>>25161321>How long does a building stand before it falls?>How long does a contract last? >How long will brothers share the inheritance before they quarrel?>How long does hatred, for that matter, last?>Time after time the river has risen and flooded.>The insect leaves the cocoon to live but a minute.>How long is the eye able to look at the sun?>From the very beginning nothing at all has lasted.>See how the dead and the sleeping resemble each other.>Seen together, they are the image of death.>The simple man and the ruler resemble each other.>The face of the one will darken like that of the other.Agreed. The Epic of Gilgamesh was omegakino.
>>25161864I don't like that the entire work is structured off dogma. Since he's setting out to prove something it kind of makes the details irrelevant to me.>>25161889>>25161850
>>25161889Is the Oxford version of this a good translation? I just picked it up.
The Iliad isn't a book, retards. It's an epic poem. Fucking hell, the state of this board. Too many low IQ brown tourists from twitter.
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>>25161321>greatest thing EVER written"
>>25161793>mfw Diomedes and Athena epic style team up to wound Ares
>>25161613>lmaoI accept your concession.
>>25161864>anything involving Satan or Eve feels grand and sonorous, should I say.God should have made the first commandment "thou shalt not simp".
>>25162088>mfw there's no uninterrupted stream-of-consciousness from the perspective of a guy taking a shit
>>25161321to add to that, Achilles is one of the first (& certainly the most powerful) LGBT+ heroes of all time
>>25162157yong yea said that?
>>25162157Haha, Calypso is a fun chapter.
>>25162196Who?>looks him upLeave literature to the adults, gamerbabby
>>25162176>LGBT+Sex with pubescent boys is straighter than sex with chubby 30+ women
>>25162326Who is it? I thought he was talking about some Chinese mystic or some shit
>>25162330bro, totally. everyone thinks this is a very normal opinion. time to sun my balls because I'm so manly!
>>25162339>time to sun my balls because I'm so manly!Why would you do that? I feel like that's an easy way to get melanoma.
>>25162330This is a whole lotta cope if I ever read it. Nothing wrong with being into fag lit, hell, Moby Dick is one of the best works of literature ever written (better than the Iliad too) and that’s almost as gay.
>>25162330least gay Iliad worshipper
*attempts to become immortal in your path*
>>25162338Some gaming YouTuber
>>25162326>it doesn't look like himyes it does, fattie chin-chin
>>25161321For the same reason the first cock in your asshole will always be the best, and you'll spend the rest of your life just trying to chase that dragon
>>25161719A long s is not an f.
>>25162901Fhufh you, it’f a ftyliftic choice.
Which translation is the most anti-semitic?
>>25162929The one I’m writing
>>25162930You piqued my interest
No one reads it for Helen, I can tell you that much.She needs to give back her domains for they belong to Helios anyway.
>>25162076I love the Iliad and this is honestly hilarious. This is your initial response to this shit at first. It's hilarious how long these sections are with all this seemingly unnecessary backstory. But then you realize that Homer is simply showing how war affects us all, beyond those participating in the violence, and how life continues even after the "noble" sacrifice in battle. The warriors are more than just that, they have families, inheritances, land, lovers -- all who will be in mourning. Homer wasn't really pro-war.
Homer is a gay book for homos lol
>>25163864Should have changed his name from Homer to “Homosexual dick sucking twink fucking faggot” haha
>>25163870lmao!
>>25161321>written
>>25161340Don Quixote
>>25165249Haven't read :/
>>25165383
>>25161321I prefer the Odyssey desu.
>>25161340Finnegans Wake
>>25165397How’s he gonna worm his way outta this one I wonder.
>>25165383Statians, I swear...
>>25161321it's capeshitthe batrachomyomachia is better
>>25161695Yeah, the odyssey isn't the grand adventure story that that cultural zeitgeist presents it as. It's really more of a story about hospitality
>>25161483no ones ever heard of that. in every generation, every intelligent or rich man has read the iliad and the odyssey which is better. also i thought Job was the first book
>>25165461Is capeshit bad here? And if so, why?
>>25161639The winner.>>25161601>>25161716Virgil never finished it for a good reason, anon.It is absolute crap. It tries to claim the Romans as Trojans and that Homer's message of love is wrong, and supplants it with fealty and duty.The Romans were a backward enough people, and Virgil felt bad for making the thing.
>>25161692Petersburg is despicably mid at best, but only people who have actually read Petersburg know that ;^)
>>25161321its not even a book
>>25165520our modern zeitgeist is all about hospitality though (in theory i mean, not in practice)>>25165856i'm sending a ticking sardine can to your
>>25161719Could you tell me why is Hamlet so great?
>>25165981Alright, it's the best "content" or "media" ever written. Is that better?
>>25161350kek
