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What books portray women as irreducibly complex individuals with their own biographies, emotions, and ambiguities?
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we don't discuss fiction here
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>>25162895
Shakespeare's plays
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>>25162895
not my diary desu
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>>25162895
the works of Willa Cather
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Also, Iphigenia among the Taurians
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Most contemp fiction fulfills that brief but at the cost of reducing men to marginal players of two types--the hopeless fool and the sinister creep.
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Cymbelline
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>>25162944
I'd really like to see the hopeless creep and the sinister fool done some time
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>>25162947
Not so sure. But sometimes a character who starts as a hopeless fool merges into a sinister creep, usually when the omnicompetent MC rebuffs his advances or laughs at his form in bed.
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Anthony and Cleopatra
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>>25162895
Books written by men where they replaced the male characters with female characters at the last second before publishing otherwise people would have said "hey wait a minute why do all your books only have male characters?" And then they'd get very upset and write about it on twitter and their blog nobody reads.
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>>25162974
I never get why people are so into the Wyf of Bath. She‘s basically 14th century Amy Schumer.
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>>25162974
Whenever you read about women, you're reminded of the reasons that everyone prefers to read about men. Why are there no books about women doing things that are actually interesting to read about? Wuthering Heights, Euripides and Shakespeare. That's it.
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>>25162895
The Bell, Iris Murdoch
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>>25162899
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>>25162962
Cleopatra (Shakespeare) is the GOAT of female characters.
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>>25162899


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ALL LITERATURE IS FICTION.
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>>25162895
Bad ones
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>>25162899
...?
yes we do...
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>>25163103
It's Shakespeare's Beatrice sorry, followwd by Thackery's Becky Sharp
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>>25162895
Divorcing by Susan Taubes. Semi-autobiographical. Terrific book.
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>>25162970
examples?
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>>25162895
luv u clarice lispector <3 mwah
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>>25162899
lmao
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>>25162947
The sinister fool is Joker from Batman. The hopeless creep is Batman.
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>>25163315
15 years he’s been keeping up this allcaps gimmick folks, 15 years.
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>>25166221
I like nonfiction like this. It’s speaks to me profoundly as a fellow woman hater.
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>>25162895
Bakkers Second Apocalypse. However he was deemed sexist for this :)
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>>25162895
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>>25162895
All of the "complexity" of women comes from their innate desire to destroy.
>have happy life
>but I'm BORED
>if I just destroy everything around me, life will be so much less BORING
>teehee look at that, everything's a mess!
>oh no this isn't fun anymore, help, save me!
>where did all the good men go?
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>>25166515
The only way to curb a woman's destructive desires is to give her regular spankings.
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no one here said middlemarch yet? its exactly what op is looking for.
There are absolute assholes and sympathetic characters no matter the gender
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Last year I had a girl practically begging me to marry her. A few months later she went out of her way to attempt to humiliate me when she had found another man to fuck. I was raised by two older women, who impressed on me the idea that my role was to protect and care for women, and not treat them like those assholes who made them so sad. Now I just don't care.
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>>25162895
This book here, outside of being very competent genre fiction, has one of the most realistic portrayal of women I've ever read.
The book has multiple POVs, and one of the protagonist is this girl who is plotting to destroy the tyrant who conquered and destroyed her country and killed her father, so she sells herself into slavery and eventually worms her way into his harem. The twist is that she falls in love with him and she is torn between her desire to be dicked down by this guy who is a terrible tyrant yet also a deeply sensitive man and her desire to avenge her country and her father.
This was published a decade before the redpill started forming in the collective consciousness, showing that some unfortunate realities about the nature of women have always been known to mankind.
Did I mention she also fucks her brother before departing on her mission?
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>>25162895
Those people did irreparable harm to me. Until I was 25, I thought women were my equals.
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>>25162899
im ded bruh
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>>25162895
Aurora Leigh if you're looking for a serious answer
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>>25167721
late as fuck but I'm glad you came to your senses



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