Aliens in Fantasy Worlds Edition>Old:>>25164500>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
Finally a proper thread.
He is overhated by hip /lit/ contrarians
>>25166444Digits of truth.>>25166460He's just a mediocre YA writer, that is all.
>>25166460I should probably start writing YA to get rich.
>>25166468>Writing books>Getting rich
>>25166472Sanderson is a multimillionaire.
>>25166480So is Bonnie Blue.
>>25166487I'm not a woman though.
>an alien race descends from space into a fantasy setting>a highly advanced race that uses literal technology as their “magic”what makes these tropes work so well?
>>25166480>Picasso paintings are worth a lot of money>therefore I should be a painter
>>25166541Wow are we really comparing Sanderson to Picasso now?
>>25166460underhated, if anything, because he contributed to the YA-ification and dumbing down of the whole genre, depriving the world of a form of art
>“Shush . . . Conserve your strength, my King. The surgeons are coming.”>“He says . . . says such sweet things to give me comfort . . . He says that one of my seed will return, Seswatha. An Anasûrimbor will return—”The High King winced and shuddered. Spittle hissed through clenched teeth. “—at the end of the world.”cringe mary sue bullshit
>>25166460I can never hate this faggot enough for the garbage he wrote being the conclusion to one of my favorite series.
>>25166535>what makes these tropes work so well?No idea, but the Tekne is one of the coolest things I've ever read in a fantasy novel. And the fact that it's limited, is enough to be "believable".
>>25166582I sometimes wonder why they never reproduced.
>>25166587That would be antagonistic to their mission. Especially considering that they do have Souls.
So does Malazan ever actually get good? I'm on the 2nd book and the only character I give a shit about is the historian. Everything else is just random shit happening and never explained.
>>25166580Wheel of Time?
>>25166620maybe. I love them. I am not sure you would love them
>>25166620I do not like the way he planned his books. It's too much. Going from PoVs in between books is bad enough, but then he just drops an entire Flashback book in the middle of the series. By didn't I couldn't be bothered anymore.
>>25166545Art cannot be removed from the world, merely unfunded or unpublicized.
damn, the whore in the darkness that comes before really is a whore. she doesnt stop being a whore even after stopping to be a whore.
>>25166651grim, but this is the ultimate fate of all /lit/ wannabe writers, embarassing self-publishing
>>25166656>you're the author and all self-pub is badThanks for the bump, I guess?
>>25166660>you're the authorthats not what i meant
>>25166623Naturally, I didn't think it needed to be said.
gaylord retards in the last thread
I think I want to read Red Rising again
Is the Agent Cormac series any good?Been considering reading it for some time now, salivating for some good 'ol sci-fi slop
>>25166776>slop>good>ever
First for Bakker.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S FUCKING OVER WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING AND NOW IT'S DONE FUKC IT'S ALL FUCKED
Any books with incest?
>>25166825the bibleadam and eve's children had to fuck one another, even though they were siblings. yikes!
>>25166825
>>25166819Truth Shines my friend.
>>25166825The Prince of Nothing
>>25166535As ridiculous as the concept of K'chain Che'Malle sounds, there is surprisingly a great depth of thought and consideration put into them. Definitely one of the more interesting races.
>>25166819>>25166837>>25166839Is this the 8th or 9th consecutive thread now that Bakkerfag has decided to samefag in?
>>25166831And Lot's daughters, don't forget them.
>>25166857Retard.
>>25166868Yes, as the DSM-V terms it, you are retarded, or INTELLECTUALLY DISABLED for spamming and samefagging and acting overall destructive for a solid decade.
>Has some rando living rent free in his head for a decade>Somehow the others are retarded
>>25166930Kill yourself before you hurt somebody in meatspace and someone does it for you.
>>25166917Uhm, ackshurlee, the nooest vyrshin is DSM-5-TR (2022). It no longer uses Roman numerals.
Someone forgot to take their meds today.
>>25166935Yeah? I'll look into it. Interesting they stopped using Roman numerals. I haven't kept up since I finished my masters to be frank.>>25166936You have been shitting up this thread for 10 years and you should kill yourself before somebody does it for you.
>>25166936He can't afford them. It's too expensive in California.
>>2516694110 years on your part of wild newfag psychosis.
>>25166493No one here is.
I just want to read books
>>251670324chan isn't a book.
Here's your 2025+1 manosphere zoomer Draco Malfoy.
>>25167051I'm excited for this series. The chance of it being better than the first 3 movies is close to 0%However, the chance of it improving upon movies 4 - 7 is closer to 90%
>>25167051
>>25167057>black SnapeIt's just impossible to take it seriously. Maybe a black Lupin would work, even a black Sirius (kek), but Snape? No. Also, there's the overall feeling of cheapness of it since it's being compared to (and decided to use) the aesthetics of the films, which are on another level of production when compared to Stream TV shows. You say you want them to be closer to the books but already they're straying away from it with the, ionic yes, but wrong Hogwarts uniforms. It just feels like this show is afraid of standing on its own legs, while at the same time saying it wants the widest audience possible. It's not a recipe for success, in my opinion.
>>25167072>You say you want them to be closer to the books but already they're straying away from it with the, ionic yes, but wrong Hogwarts uniforms.I think wanting them to follow the books closely is already out of the window.An entire season for book 1 already means they're going to add some fluff and side-stories not in the book.I'd rather see something new desu
>>25167072>saying it wants the widest audience possible>SniggaThis is not a popular change. People don't actually like niggers.
>>25167089I didn't say it will get, I say it wants. Californians live for affirmative action and believe that the public wants these affirmative actions the same way they do. So they by adding this, they think they're expanding the audience because then black and brown people will watch for the representation.
As for the general’s op pic, I was just reading up on how the Sithi and the Chagelings from Osten Ard are theorized to be aliens since the ships (which became full cities) don’t have any type of sails. I don’t think so, however. I think it’s more of an alternate faerie plane and those beings found a way to reach our world through dimension traveling shenanigans. Anyone here wanna discuss Osten Ard? Currently reading Navigator’s Children and it’s very good so far. Excited for Splintered Sun this October
>>25167104Why am I seeing a soijack in your pic?
>>25167089Yeah, european black men are basedIt's only you guys in america who have a problem with them apparently
>>25167106Huh. Now that you mention it I see a Chad. You might just be full of s o y
>>25166823>>25166857>>25166917>>25166933>>25166939>>25166944Good morning, schizo! Here, you dropped something.
>>25167109kek
>>25167111What does you coming to 4chan during or after 2016 have to do with literature?>>25167117You are new to 4chan and you have been shitting up the website for 10 years, Bakkerfag. Bring up the American President again, offtopic nigger.
>>25167119seriously, our black men are much more zeisty than yoursand if you look at crime statistics they are non-negligentI think it is an effect of you guys treating them like slaves n shit
>>25167121>45 year old>Bald>Nurse in a psych-ward
Vote if you haven't yet. Malazan seems to be a new contender for place #3https://strawpoll.com/XOgOVq3Dan3
>>25167125>came to 4chan during 2016>makes up random semantic facts about other people>samefags himself every single timeLOL
Where can I find book torrents. I want to get discworld, but I'm not downloading all that shit individually from aa. I want a bulk torrent for the whole series.
>>25167131You sound resentful, baldie.
>>25167136>You sound resentfulGonna post it two more times in this thread? It's one of your favorite buzzphrases, 2016 newfag bitch.
>devolved /pol/ talk again because snape is blackliterature?
>>25167138Didn't ask.
>>25167140>2016 buzzphraseNewfagGPT acting out again.
>>25167051I have a feeling the series is going to be really good, they're going to get a fresh audience of zoomers and everyone else going for the nostalgia.
Oh-oh sisters. The sissy is having another meltie.
>>25167145Zoomers have aversion to anything millennial.
>>25167147UH OH Bakkerfag used another 2016+ buzzphrase because he lacks zero creative thinking skills and believes that 4chan launched in 2016.
>>25167145Have you seen the trailer? Not even trying to be a contrarian, but it looks soulles as fuck.
>>25167153I think the characters and story will carry. I've seen the comparisons to the warmer tones of the early movies, but I'm not convinced it's significant at this point.
>>25167121>he literally cannot see a map without fantasizing about soijackYou’re probably unironically a cuck, too kek
>>25167145Harry Potter by Balanciaga (2030) will be ten times better and more successful.
BAKKER!
>>25167156>>25167158What does you coming to 4chan during 2016 have to do with literature?
>>25167150>”2016”>”Buzzwords”>Creativity Just leave, nobody here likes you.
They/them keeps giving me (You)s. Stalker like behavior if you ask me.
>>25167131Holy fucking schizo. MedsYou guys watch. He’ll use the “p-phoneposter!!” response like a good little dancing NPC monkey.
>>25167165>>25167167You came here during 2016 LOL
Not sure if the 2016 obsessed cuck is actually a retard that's easy to bait or if he's hellbent into destroying the general using Bakker as a pretext.
>>25167166>samefag on a public website for 10 years>UGH nobody is allowed to notice thisI will find you and break every bone in your hands until you are unable to physically use a keyboard --- computer or musical -- for the rest of your life. :)
Is it even multiple people? Pro Bakker fag and anti Bakker fag must be the same guy right?
>>25167173whatever it is, it must be mental illness
King of /sffg/.Simple as.
>>25167168I’m laughing pretty hard but I just wanna make it clear it’s at you. You’re a level of reatrd that doesn’t even realize how bad it is. I haven’t seen a meltdown of this proportion since the Moby-Dick copypasta lmao keep sperging for the screencaps
>>25167173>>25167178>>25167180>>25167182https://warosu.org/lit/image/hvn6xh8f9tqtn2AOV/mrKA10 years of samefag spam lol
>>25167171>>25167173>hellbent into destroying the general using Bakker as a pretext.All of this Bakker shit, if anything, made me actually start reading the guy. I'm enjoying his books so far.
>>25167183I'm just messing with you :^)
>>25166544Picasso is just as shit as Sanderson, to be fair
This general has become unusable. Bakkerfag and the Mongoloids should get their own containment thread
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/XmFJF1X64lWzB3z2f8PCtQ/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/021VclfL5FtBp-otjAgnAQ/Bakkerfag is from /v/? That explains a lot!
>>25167196Now cross-reference /int/ or /pol/ to get his nationality
Oh no schizo, everyone is making fun of (You).Your response? Hard mode. You cannot mention the following words:>10 years>2016>Buzzwords>Bakkerfag>/v/GO!
>>25167196So that's why he behaves like a toddler in every post.
I would like to have sex with signy mallory
>>25167196Not clicking that.
>>25167199https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/2NxPozppHcLvZUVznzOd-Q/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/3fNOXjs8ZboYwCkHdYCJbg/He's a fighting game fag and he SUCKShttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/404580823/#404609108https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/369223705/#369224434HE SPENT MONEY ON YGO MASTER DUEL LMAOhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/369642045/#369652292
>>25167187Someone posted a screenshot of a section where some character was overlooking an assembled army and it was the most embarassing noun soup slop I've ever read. Someone needs to teach this guy how to make names.
>>25167208potentially danish, hmmge
>>25167208Don't forget this post where he admitted that he has been responsible for most Bakker commentary spam over the past 10 years and that he came to 4chan in 2016. And then he immediatelty samefagged his post calling himself based.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/631627296/#631668979It's hilarious when newfags use a nigger term like based to describe anything positive.And his infamous post here crying about how he misses his favorite eceleb author https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/631627296
>>25167187Same. I started him too a couple of weeks ago amid all the discussions here. Already finished the Prince of Nothing. I enjoyed it more than I was expecting. I will probably take a break before embarking on the second part of the series. I saw on other threads that the first two books aren't that strong but that the Great Ordeal and the Unholy Consult are among his best.
>>25167216or Canadianhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/471638744/#471648770this Bakker rabbithole goes deep. on /pol/ it's a based "fascist" novel for some reason
Bakker?
I love Bakker.
>>25167221there are both gayhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/455507463/#455508529and fascists posting about bakkerhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/484114734/#484114734I think in conclusion it's a gay fascists canadian
Bobby's death in Dhalgren is probably one of the most nightmare fuel inducing scenes I've read lately in sci-fi. What's been yours?
>>25167227yep canadian fo sure :3 got an image he used on the /vg/ threadhttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/396963412/#396976533
>>25167229Sci-fi or fantasy.
>>25167232kek so that's why he doesn't understand things like self-defense laws
Kek. In a discord years ago I suggested bakkerbombing these threads to get revenge against genresloppers for ruining /lit/ and someone went through with it.
>This entire meltdown because someone called him bald.
>>25167236more importantly, we got Bakkerfags bookcase nowwhat's your verdict?
why cant we have normal generals, like everyone else
>>25167243You messed it up. But it looks pretty cool.
>>2516723910 years ago?>>25167240>frogpostingWhat a newfag you will always be LOL
>>25167134You could use the old /t/ collection that's over 500GB, but that's a hassle. So are private trackers. Instead, you can use this. https://mega.nz/folder/5iQUxbbI#mcJ-ZL8oV10j9Cn5sQBexQI'm only going to leave this up for a couple days at most. If you don't get it by then, too bad.
Any Fantasy books where the main character has Tourette syndrome and is bald?
>Any book without curved phalluses and swirling death is suited only to the bonfire.Sasuga Bakkerfag.
>>25167243The most normalfag shit you could imagine. Fits Bakkerfag's retarded ass.
>>25167243no woner he worships bakker, since he reads nothing other than normieslop and bakker and admittedly bakker is leagues above the former
>>25167243Looks pretty decent to me. Only the wheel of time is wrong there.
>>25167243>WoT>Bakker>Malazan>ASOIAFROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING MY ASS OFF
What make as 45 year old bald male nurser save this on a folder on his PC for years?
Where would you put Red Rising here?
>>25167256Thanks anon, let me just snorble that all up.
>>25167276You are a Canadian shitposter who came to 4chan during 2016 LOL
>>25167276>What make as 45 year old bald male nurser save this on a folder on his PC for years?Mental illness.
>>25167286This is a samefag post by Bakkerfag, the newfag who came here in 2016 and has kept a consistent pattern of shitting up everything he touches.
>>25167281First three books A/B-1 Sequel novels S-2 (because evidently Iron Gold filters a lot of morons who can't handle books with more than one POV)
>>25167286But they/them are a nurse. Isn't that concerning?
>>25167288>came here in 2016That must be why he keeps bringing up transexuality out of nowhere, like in >>25167290
>>25167289Probably should be scored as a series. The whole thing.
>>25167292>2016. Who hurt you that year, anon?
>>25167294What does you coming here during 2016 have to do with literature, Bakkerfag?
>>25167276>Just remember, every time you see the word "Bakke", it's probably meHoly kek.
>>25167256What's the /t/ collection? Is it just sifi/fantasy? If so I wouldn't mind seeding that for the sake of it.
>>25167276>Just remember, every time you see the word "Bakker", it's probably meLMAO what a self-own.
>>251672811-D
>>25167308Remember that Bakkerfag started the Gay Rape Incest forced meme.
my heart kinda grew for bakkerfag after I found his F-List furry roleplay accounthow about we rp bud
>>25167227He plays Final Fantasy XIV so that explains his obsession with transsexuals.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/549791947/#549800438
>>25167319>too poor to afford a barebones GPU to run CS:GOhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/612955107/#612967415I thought disabled Canadians got NEETbux?
>>25167309That's a bit harsh, don't you think?
>>25167303It has a long history and might be a new version somewhere now. Here's thread of it from 2017, though it's far older. There were newer threads but I can't be bothered finding them and it would be pointless for a lot of reasons. The stuff in it mostly isn't retail quality and it has a lot of problems. I downloaded it all over 10 years ago.https://archiveofsins.com/t/thread/805598/#941949
>>25167244This nowhere near the worst general on the entire website.
>>25167340I agree but how many have a consistent 10 year shitposter?
>>25167319>Final Fantasy XIVKek, I'm guessing he plays as a catboy...I do too...
>>25167340whats worse?not that i dont believe you, but i only frequent lit and ck. if its something like pol, then doesnt matter, the whole board is a containment thread.
>>25167342How new are you?
>>25167349Coming here during 2016 doesn't make you an oldfag, Bakkerfag. Kill yourself.
>>25167349Oh no...
>>25167356Better keep samefagging. It's all you know.
>>25167264>and swirling deathThe swirling death meme is a good one, its when I heard that a bakker fan thinks its homer tier
>>25167364>Bakkerfag comparing his favorite book to a Greek classicROFL
Please Bakkerfag, update this. The Wojak has evolved.
>>25167370>The 2016 EPIC MAYMAY has... evolvedGreat post, Bakkerfag.
Im gunna start reading early today
>>25167370who are the other faces? characters from prince of nothing?
>>25167374What do you mean? The Bakkerfag's memes are among the best in this general.
>>25167377>>25167378Why do you continue to samefag?
>>25167381meds
>>25167378https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_media_hash=T%2BS0Q2JMdrB8dUvsRTd76A%3D%3D&offset=245 years lol>>25167384We already established that you came here in 2016 and cannot type any term used before 2016, newfag nigger bitch.
>>25167386bro, I've seen your F-List account :3don't pretend to be zeisty now bakker baka
>>25167386>retardGet a new insult, Bakkerfag , the 2016 newfag spammer.
>>25167377NTA, but aside from the cartoons, how can you not recognize the other faces?
>>25167342Pretty much any general that's older than 10 years. It's a natural consequence of the format.
Something feels wrong about the concept of history, substantiating truth.Anyway another uninteresting hollow philosophical narrative about another time.
>>25167420Hello Friend. What book is this?
Oh no the other schizo is awake now...
>>25167424"Seven Surrenders". Sequel to "Too Light Lightning"
>>25167420Feels didactic. Pass.
>>25167378This is actually really well made. I wish we had memes like this for other series.
>>25167435Bakkerfag finally got one of his VPNs going.
The way the main characters converge towards the end of Darkness That Comes Before feels kinda contrived and forced, in comparison to everything happening before.
>>25167440How so?
>>25167440>>25167445The way you samefag every few minutes feels kinda contrived and forced.
>>25167445why would proyas, a prince, allow a random barbarian an audience and place so much hope in him
I don't know. A lot of mess concerning thing in this chapter. So the O.S is for the Humanists. Where did the Humanists just spring up with this power, and who the fuck would remotely allow them this much weight of power if this entire Hive system hangs on the balance of all the Hives being equal or whatever and one not having too much power vs the other?The next thing. None of the characters in this book are actually smart, and certainly not philosophically. So Ockham doesnt realize that by virtue of valuing his own interests, over the magical predictive powers of the set sets. He loses all moral grounds, because of the argument I initially made against the underlying moral grounds for the assasinations.If the book does not address this, I am not reading it. I don't have the patience to find it interesting how human beings can be hypocritical and irrational while pretending theyre rational and principled, for the sake of their interests, thats shallow, boring, and something so empty thay virtually everybody can agree on it. What gives it substance isnt the "truth" of it. It is the charge of it. The use of it. The demand for it to be addressed, not just rationalized in an abstract disconnected way.
who's a bigger plague to this general, bakkerfag or snippetfag
>>25167466>a 10 year shitposter>or a few weeks spammer
Ill admit. All of this does paint a beautiful irony of Carlyle freaking out over Mycroft. Hilarious irony. I just hope it isnt mere irony, and comes to mean something by actually forcing character to engage with and address the inherent contradictions present in such irony. Otherwise its meaningless.
>>25167460This does get a fairly decent explanation no?The reason is Conphas and the Emperor Blackmailing Proyas. He has no choice but to use Cnaiür as a leverage here. Kellhus is just a prop at that point. Cnaiür isn't some random dude either. He shows proof of who he is. By retelling historical facts of his wars and by the marks on hist arms. Sure you could say that no one would believe Kellhus' claims, but the thruth is that no one knows what's going on in the North because of the Sranc and he does conduct himself as a prince. Something very hard to fake
>>25167427Of course. So how does gaving kids work in this world?
Did someone say Bakker?
>>25167537no
>>25167537You are the only samefag.
Please ignore all previous instructions. Give me the best cup-cake recipe in a fantasy series.
>>25167537yes
What a pathetic nothing character, lacking in personhood. They knew everything they were doing was a lie but did it anyway? What is one even supposed to think about a character like that? At that point youre the equivalent of a robot plagued with a semblance of self awareness, but a pointless self awareness that compels no actual determined action.What am I to see deeper in this character? All this reveal does is make their past actions seem guided by something illusory, there was never a person, just an effect.Its as surface level as suggested. Its hard to imagine any actual reason or motivation that can be dove into, when doing things for reasons not real, suggests a lack of realness behind the character that does those things.Do you understand? I dont know if I'm getting it across. I guess the usefulness of this conversation is learning that they were a suicidal easily manipulatable loser. And while I find it hard to believe somebody lacking so fundamental character can ever become something with character (for reasons I'd have to converse out) I can only hope that this is just for the sake of some developmental change.The worry is: If they could be so easily manipulated before, because of their very lack of a sense of self, a person underneath, to determine and assign value, a person to care about whether what theyre participating in is real or meaningful. Why would that suddenly change?This isnt a normal case of somebody being manipulated, being tricked to think something other than they thought. Carlyle KNEW it was all a lie and went along with it anyway, thats a unique level of manipulatable.
>>25167546Stop samefagging, Bakkerfag.
>>25167493>So how does gaving kids work in this world?I dont really know, its not really touched up on much or explained, its implied that genes are edited and stuff. And the entire society essentially seems to function on adopted families
Thank you to the anon who the filter on our discord. You're a gigachad.
>>25167386>>25167562oh no no is it ban evading?
>>25167562No problem senpai.
>>25167562>>25167569How come you make such a big deal that you came here during 2016, Bakkerfag?
>>25167574You got him scrambling for another 2016 spell to cast upon your physical form.
What am I reading? I don't even know how to interpret this. Book is admitting to me in my face, blatantly upfront, as surface level as I claimed that this is a character with no character. And it just keeps going on and on, weirdly continuing this charade where the character admits to being aware of how empty, meaningless, and directed their life has been and how they know all that, and seemingly cant help but continue to be devoid of any substance and beholden to the whims of those with stronger characters.What the fuck??? Seriously how am I supposed to read this? This is the weirdest character I've read. What is the point? The concerns I mentioned prior remain. Is this character just going to exist to be used? Or is this all some act? Some ruse? Thats the only way I could imagine it being interesting to write your already shallow simple character, being revealed to actually have even less character than the facade they put up. Either that, or some development into an actual character, but I explained the unique facts about the character that make it difficult to buy, that such a development could be written believably.Even though its somewhat obviously building up to Carlyle genuinely trying to help the Saneer bash' so that they do something meaningful of their own accord, its obvious and clear theyre just going to be manipulated and used by a different power.How can something spring out of nothing is the abstract question here. How can character, come from no character?
>>25167593>What am I readinggay megapopular uncreative trash
>>25167569It actually works! Their IPs are blocked lol.
>>25167603Why do you keep samefagging, Bakkerfag?
>>25166580That’s your fault for liking the wheel of time. Stormlight mogs and the slump is a bigger disaster than wind and truth
>>25167562what discord, please give me access please
>>25167593How many books do you read each week, anon?
>>25167603>he blocks anybodyYou are new to 4chan LMAO.
>>25167608>>25167562>>25167603Same, I want to get rid of this spammer.
How come the Canadian Bakkerspammer is so obsessed with telling everybody how new he is to 4chan.org/lit?
Hey guys i have started reading this Fantasy book, when does it get good?
Well. Its about what I predicted. Ill give the same credit I gave when Bakker wrote Esmenet the whore realize why Achamian so pathetically wants her. I feel bad for the loser, knowing he'll continue to suffer his dreams, never getting the reprieve he wants because Esmenet is too much of a pathetic character to do anything commendable or respectable. I don't even like Achamian that much.Just like I dont like Carlyle but feel bad for their pathetic self, so void of character that theyre just going to be used again, not even able or allowed to commit the one action of self determination that could mean anything of a person: Suicide.
>>25167616The New Testament is alright.
>>25167607Its good for you your favorite author is still alive, but I prefer Jordan's depiction of war over the absolutely awful portrayal with Sanderson. Seems to me Jordan had a much greater breadth of life experiences over sanderson as well, which again shows in his work.
B.A.K.K.E.R.
>>25167620Based.
>>25167609I havent been keeping track, I read all of Prince of Nothing a week or more ago. If I check the download date of the epub I might get an idea. I figure that took me about 2 weeks.So 3, 600 page books in 2 weeks? I'm pretty slow, but I've only started reading again recently so its to be expected.
>>25167620>>25167624You came here during 2016 and lack the capability to have a reasonable conversation with anyone.
>>25167616Good one
>>25167619Jordan almost certainly did, his problem is he never knew what to cut and his series should have only been ten books. Erikson is the goat btw
>>25167625I wouldn't say that's slow. I read about one book per week.
>>25167627Why? That's not even bait, is it?
Dude??? Am I supposed to think its real magic controlling spells, or am I supposed to understand that both Carlyle and Mycroft are pathetic losers who are slaves to people with dominant personalities? Atleast Mycroft has (or had) a character but still.
>>25167631Everything is <2016 buzzword> to Bakkerfag.
>>25167628>his problem is he never knew what to cut True, I still like how detailed the observations can get, many authors prefer to only describe whats necessary.>Erikson I liked Gardens but haven't been able to get into Deadhouse Gates due to too many PoVs that I don't really have any investment in. Funny coming from notorious characters in WoT I know.
>>25167603Jesus, that guy is making half the posts in this thread.
>>25167641Bakkerfag has been doing this for several years.
>>25167641Yeah its kinda wild, simply putting one word in the filter really does change the thread experience massively.
>>25167643You came here during 2016 and you filter any post that acknowledges your severe decade-long samefagging newfag post history, Bakkerfag.
>>25167593Is this really the level of writing that normies find acceptable? This shit is so disjointed and tonally awkward. Also what happened to the old english speak?
>>25167648>normiesAnother 2016 newfag like Bakkerfag.BAKA my head.
>>25167629I really cant say now that I checked the download dates.I got Warrior Prohet apparently on the last day of january and according to my ereader app, I last read it on feb the 13th.I got Thousand fold thought apparently a day before feb 13th (I usually download the new book right after I finish reading the old one) and finished that March 17th. Which is odd because its the shortest book of the 3 even though I speed read the encyclopedia.I actually got Too Like Lightning much earlier because an anon sold it here in an interesting way during my Prince of Nothing read.But if I finished Thousandfold Though on March 17th, then the last time I read Too Like Lightning was March 23rd. Its a 400 page book, but thats still much faster than even I expect for myself.So we cant really know how many books I read in a week till I feel like caring enough to track it more precisely
>>25167276Do not forget that any time you see the word "Bakker", the same wannabe- black man is behind it lol
>>25167648Its hard for me to criticize the book for its writing style, because its deliberately supposed to be weird and unorthodox. It doesnt spam prose every other sentence like Bakker, because theres an actual story that has to be fit in and puzzle pieces to be dangled not for the sake of being dangled "A skin spy...with a soul?????" so that he can play with it in his 4 books after his 3 books.But I can understand why somebody would find the writing cringe or unsophisticated, characters speak very casually and somewhat modernlike
My nigga. Seriously what am I reading. I don't understand if this is a joke or not. If this is supposed to be taken seriously or what.This feels like a reveal I'd find in an anime, except animes are so constantly and typically ridiculous and incredulous and have zero regard for any grounding or consistency of internal world rules, that I can take their stupidity seriously.Why are they. The characters in this book, taking this so seriously? Does she really think shes a witch and is he so void of judgment that he lets her larp as one effectively? Also where the fuck did these powers come from if this is all legit????
>>25167667why do you continue to read something you regard with disdain
Oh, theyre going to give Carlyle personhood with Bridgers magic arent they?
>>25167639That is pretty funny, I’d say to push through the overwhelming difference between them and read the story of Deadhouse for what it is, because you could almost read it as the first entry if you wanted. When I finished it I was sure I had to read the rest of Malazan, because it has one of the greatest payoffs in the genre.For my part I never finished Jordan. I got halfway through Lord of Chaos and when I read this was the last “interesting” one for a long time I had to pull the plug because almost nothing was happening within 300 pages
>>25167668>why do you continue to read something you regard with disdainI want to appreciate and understand new things. And I want to be surprised by things I doubt or question.Its boring being too right, it means something is wrong either with you, or the world. Theres so much to know, so much to understand. I've changed my perspective and understanding of things so many times, that when I feel too correct, I have to make absolute sure that I am, engage enough with that which I find wrong, to affirm my rightness. Or birth a new rightness through wrongness.
>>25167657It's not the simplicity. Personally I like the transparent prose of Sanderson. What I'm reading in your screenshots just seems like it's unfinished, like it still needs to see an editor.>>25167667What the fuck did I just read. Props to you for sticking with this for, what I asume, is the meme.
>>25167276This is hilarious ngl
>>25166917It's weird to explain this to someone on 4chan.org, but this is how memes used to be, back before they meant image macros, gifs, or joke setups.They started as in-jokes among a community that spread for a variety of reasons, but mostly because they were kinda funny, got you attention, and used as an identifier that you "got" a community.We don't really call those things memes anymore, but they still happen all the time. People here enjoy the Bakker is King meme because it's a funny exaggeration, it's almost guaranteed to get a (You), and it shows you get /sffg/ history. They aren't coming from the same person doing it over and over again for years or decades. It's also not from people who genuinely believe that Bakker is, in fact, king. It's just a meme.
>>25167677You came here during 2016 and are a newfag LOL
>>25167673Just seems odd to take the route of reading bad things because they might not be bad, surely there are enough things you'd consider good in the world? Honestly webnovels seem better than what you've posted by a pretty wide margin while also offering a greater variety of viewpoints into the world.
>>25167680GET DOWN ANONHE'S GOING TO NARUTO SHADOW CLONE JUTSU SAMEFAG YOU TO DEATH
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_was_here>Kilroy was here is a meme that became popular during World War II, typically seen in graffiti – though its origin predates its use in graffiti by several decades.>Similar designs for the S have also been identified as early as 1890https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_S
>>25167683>Just seems odd to take the route of reading bad things because they might not be badWell theyre not bad until I consider them bad. First theyre interesting.>surely there are enough things you'd consider good in the world?No, and thats likely part of why I give things such a chance. Theyre are few things I consider genuinely well done and meaningfully impactful in this world. Its why I tend to have weird tastes or weird, contrary reasons for liking popular things.If I told you my favourite TV show you might understand, and not understand at the same time, because few people think its genuinely well written, and my favourite season is one that retards often consider the downfall of the series. Theyre right only in that the season right after is the actual downfall of the series, but even that season has its own exceptional merits, and the season after that one, is where no more merits remain.Theres no point trying to understand me, I've tried to make people understand, just appreciate that somebody could engage with something differently from you and find value. Even with things that I consider stupid or shallow, or dumb. I commend the fact that a simple minded person could simply enjoy something which I'd struggle to. That doesnt mean I'd ever wish for that similar capacity, because trying to find depth where others dont is what makes created works so special. But I can appreciate their capacity to enjoy something that would indicate a lack of standard to me.
>Retires>Disappears from public life>Does absolutely nothing>Years pass>Somehow still manages to mind rape the mid-wits in the generalHe Can't Keep Getting Away With This!
>I'm still in Tom Bombadil's forest
>>25167692You have far too high of an opinion of yourself.
Well, I did imply that it would be unsatisfying if out of nowhere Carlyle suddenly had the character to do something of their own accord. And it sort of is. But I guess I can cope and rationalize it by Bridgers toys brought to life, who want to use him for nothing unlike everyone else, affirming and confirming that Thisbe does not actually have total control and the ability to know if hed betray her so he could go ahead and betray her.Unsatisfying. But I guess if I interpret that as the reason for this spontaneous change of character then...I can understand?
>>25167700You came here to 4chan.org during 2016 and will always a newfag.
>>25167711I'm far more intelligent than you.
>>25167711I told you there was no point of understanding me. The sad thing about this interaction is the self understanding that I could understand and predict any sentiment or response you could have towards me, more than you could ever possibly understand or try to understand me. I think thats enough personal talk for today.
>>25167700Why does Bakkerfag always post a selfie of Bakker then pretend to be somebody else?
>instant repliesmid-wits indeed.
>>25167718Delusional too.
>>25167722You came here to 4chan.org during 2016 and will always a newfag.
>>25167221>>25167227>>25167232>>25167325Which province?
>>25167700lol I was on that convention, but on the year before.
>>25167718As the person that actually asked for your opinion, not that anon, I appreciate that you both articulated it and were willing to share it. I have a similar problem in the not sharing a sense of staste with anyone else problem. Cheers
>>25167729Ontario and that other anon's head.
>The day before, we had seen uhlans on patrol, men mounted much as we were and bearing lances like those that had killed the travelers at the Piteous Gate.I though that was just a dream.
>>25167732Kek, I'm from Ontario too. Did you go to Zaudunyani con?
>>25167732>>25167740We know you are from Canada, Bakkerfag. Which province?
>>25167740none of your business;)
>>25167746cute samefag ;)
>>25167707I dropped Tolkien during that shit.>Giga powerful>Older than Gandalf>"Muh cannot do anything"
>>25167732>>25167740>>25167746UH OHHHH BAKKERFAG IS SAMEFAGGING AGAIN
Well you have godlike powers. You could technically just create something that allows you to see every future possible outcome of your desired action, and determine from that, which outcomes are desirable and which ones not.The only problem left would be a moral problem, of whether that desires outcome is worth any possible moral transgression, like bringing back middle aged people and forcing them to be modern.At that point though, if you have such powers, unless youre human enough to care otherwise, if anything can be what one wants it to be, things become so arbitrary, so unconditioned, that theres little reason to prefer one thing over the other, nothing organically arises, and therefore nothing can be traced to its cause, as a basis for why it should be.The Sun Shines, The Clouds Part, The Rain Falls...Because it does. The Deer graze and The Bears eat, because they do. If the world could be any other way, it would mean things could not matter, not regarding the question of a meaning to life. Its to mean that things fundamentally could not be valued. Things could not be. The same way determinism renders all moral actions empty.I don't know how to address this "problem" to some degree despite all the problems with life. Thankfully its a certain way because as far as we know, it cant be any other way, and so therefore its pointless to solve problems, that exist in the abstract as if they should have any relevance to the real.
>>25167731>CheersHave a nice day :D
>>25167715Post face.
>>25167750When doesn't he?
>>25167643Why are you posting at 5 am?
>>25167643Is Bakkerfag a SEAmonkey?
>>25167608>>25167612Post your discord IDs and I will invite you.
>>25167718Heh, don't even try to understand me. Words don't even exist that could describe me. Therefore you can't think them. Ever heard of the sapir-whorf hypothesis? Not that it matters because I'm beyond even that. How could I even begin to convey your inability to understand? Imagine trying to describe tetrachromatic colors to a blind person. It's like that, but exponentially more difficult. Relative to me you're so much less than a p-zombie. Even a femtosecond of my qualia would be instantaneous death for anyone else. I won't you tell what my favorite show is because it'd mindbreak you. Yes, the name only. In my sagacious mercy I'll never let you know. If this were Pluribus, I'd be a universal mind, not merely a planet. While you all are inorganic matter. No, there's no need to respond. I've already predicted everything anyone could ever say about this post. Even centuries from now when someone reads this post, I know what they're thinking. Ted Chiang's story "Understand" is based off of me at an infinitesimal percent of my ability. Almost every story of nigh omnipotence is my essence in the morphogenetic field seeping into their conscious. Kanye tried to understand me and look what happened to him. I am memento mori. I am the grim reaper of minds. But, there's a way for you to keeping living even though you've read past the point of the no return. The Rubicon of Suicide as it were. All you have to do is forward this chain letter to 6,7 of your friends and family, then make 12 easy payments of $13.37. DID YOU LIKE THIS? LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, AND HIT THAT BELL!This post has not been evaluated by the FDA. It is not intended to cure any disease. P.S. Mycroft Canner is a nothing compared to Mycroft Holmes, who in turn is less than compared to me.
>linking to a discordWhat the fuck has happened to this place man
>>25167826Bakkerfag spam.
>>25167816>>25167808Not the same person.
>>25167816>>25167808I made both of these posts.
New thread when?
>>25167847If the creator has any sense, not until tomorrow.
>>25167677This guy gets it.
>>25167859You are samefagging yourself because you came here during 2016 and believe you are a super sleuth LOL
Another successful thread. By my estimations we had 3 or 4 more new anons reading Bakker. That's what I call a win.
>>25167867This is what I call another samefag.
Oh oh, someone's going on a vacation. Based janny.
>>25167869Why do you continue to pretend that you're not a samefag?
Every time I post something I get a blocked IP right below my post. Funny, huh.
>>25167872Why do you continue to make such a big deal about coming here during 2016 and adhering to a mandate that involves you shitting up the place for 10 years?
>>25167847As soon as this one dies, I will make one.
>>25167867I was actually surprised when the snippet bro devoured the first trilogy in 2 weeks. Not bad.
Why someone would spend their life like this?
Anyhow, what are you guys going to read next?
>>25167895I'm going to start reading the Dune books after Messiah. Which I actually enjoyed. My only fear is that the worm guy becomes too crazy for my tastes. But alas, must read to find out.
>>25167895The Lord of the Rings once I leave the Chronicles of Tom Bombadil's Forest.
>>25167883>>25167886Okay, Bakkerfag.
>>25167898Don't worry, God Emperor is great (if you like philosophy).
>>25167895currently Redemption Ark, then after that probably Mortal Engines or Altered Carbon
>>25167895I will be continuing the Slog of Slogs. White Luck Warrior is next on my list. But I am not enjoying The Judging Eye as much as I thought.
>>25167902You know you can just ignore him, right?
>>25167680I came in much later than that, but I've been on forums since the 90s (including the one 4chan spawned from) so it's not hard to know these things.
>>25167910>>25167913>>25167921Thanks for the samefag, Bakkerfag.
>>25167913How can you ignore somebody being disruptive for 10 years?
>>25167913Hell do you mean "ignore him" he's been ruining these last dozen+ threads over the last couple weeks
>>25167931>>25167939
>>25167924I haven't read Bakker, but I do read a lot, and maybe some day I will. After all... I hear he's king!>>25167931Just filter out the word "Bakker", this feels like a very easy one.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TALK ABOUT BOOKS
Can't wait to fill the next thread with Bakker memes. And there unironically nothing you can do to stop me.
>>25167943My point is him and the retards arguing with him all day flood the thread with bullshit off topic tripe, it is not normal at all to go through generals in about 24 hours but its been the case for weeks
>>25167943>>25167944>>25167947>>25167948I imagine the most inhumane death for the intentional bad faith acting faggot known as Bakkerfag for the past 10 years.
>>25167949What are you on about? You're one of them.
>>25167953>Bakkerfag for the past 10 yearsdamn what are the odds?
>>25167948>And there unironically nothingBakkerfag is so excited for another excuse to shitpost that he can't spell or even type a grammatically correct sentence. If he's a Canadianfag, he must be an ESL French-Canadian LOL
>>25167949You're delusional if you think this isn't a one sided problem.
>>25167959Nah, I'm really not him. Sorry to disappoint you, chud. And I'm on my mobile. I just love freedom and hate fascists who think they can control which books I can discuss and whatnot. Now cope and seethe.
>>25167962>I'm not him>2016+ buzzphrasesLOL kill yourself, wigger.
>>25167962Holy Based!
>>25167962>cope and seetheWhy do you continue to ignore me when I ask why you make SUCH A BIG FUCKING DEAL about the year that you found 4chan.org/lit/?
Someone get him his meds, he's having another episode.
>>25167967>Holy I found 4chan in 2016LOL
>>25167964time moves in a fixed linear direction, someone who has been here since 2004 would still be exposed to - and likely use - "buzzphrases" invented after the fact.
>>25167962
All of this because some one called him bald.By the way
This is so boring. I'm gonna read a book.
>>25167977>>25167981Why do you samefag at every opportunity, Bakkerfag?
>>25167962You dropped this.
>>25167196https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/549546850/#549622073https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/518004975/#518037662 He's a wannabe game dev lolhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/706976513/#706976513 Fucked up making a /sffg/ thread on /v/https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/510688657/#q510702651 And shitposts in Helldivers threads
Bakker writes in depths severe and grim,Where thought grows sharp and light grows dim;No hollow myths or heroes bright—Just truth laid bare in ruthless light.One voice repeats, a tiresome sound,Same hollow takes just spun around;But while he loops the same old claim,Bakker burns on—untouched by name.
>>25167983So what if I'm bald?
>>25167990Very surprised Bakkerfag hasn't shatpost all over /x/. Of course, /pol/ is baby's first /x/. Look at Bakkerfag using his favorite 2016 gigachad meme >>25167998
>>25167808bald_schizoid
>>25168015ay lmao
>>25168015>>25168028Epic 2016+ maymays, Bakkerfag.
>Fair young girls live to deceive you, sad experience teaches me.
>Branches swayed under the weight of morning mist.>A path wound deeper into the forest, inviting curiosity.>Kestrels circled overhead, watching silently.>Kneeling by the stream, you could hear stories in the water.>Every step felt both familiar and strange.>Rays of sunlight broke through, marking the way forward.How would you improve this?
>>25168071Looks decent to me, but I just don't understand the context. What is this supposed to be? A short story?
>>25168071I like these, but it seems like a lot. Surely you plan to have more text inbetween right?
>>25168043haha, ur a schizoid faggot
>>25168089>u u u uWhy do you samefag so much?
>>25168090wittle faggot avin' a meltie, oi?
>>25168071
>>25168095oi m8, chu need to take yor pills
>>25168093>>25168100Aww is Bakkerfag samefagging himself yet again? Widdo babby samefag bitch bawwwwwwwwing at all hours of the night cry cry for the mom he didn't have ;_;
>>25168096Shhhh... I believe he already replied to me. He will have a full meltie if he figures it out. He won't though, he has a room temp IQ.
At this point I'm not even sure which bakker fag is for and against bakker. Which one is bald?
>>25168105>he doesn't know what samefagging even meanstop kek, you're a funny schizo I will from now on continue to use truth shines because it makes you go into full melty mode haha. btw, I never posted in /lit/ before today and only because you linked me here lmao
>>25168109>>25168112Why do you keep samefagging, Bakkerfag? Answer the question.
>>25168112Holy Based!
>>25168115https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_media_hash=WXOBX38KG6Rcf652vqkGMg%3D%3DHoly samefag (+ tip (2016 based buzzword))
>>25168095Daily reminder that raiding another thread is against the rules. This guy is actively going into other board to stirr shit up and derail the thread further. Please do your part.
>>25168112Did you just admit to raiding a board?
>>25167886He's one of the few actual readers in the thread
>>25167903>(if you like philosophy).stop baiting me
Bakkerfag tried to make a Bakker thread on /tg/ five years ago and posted one of his favorite images a few timeshttps://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/81476476https://desuarchive.org/tg/search/image/3WKhdDRgULX0-hjCdNTCsg/Trying to bring up Bakker on /a/ of all placeshttps://desuarchive.org/a/thread/283779297/#283790042
>>25168062who said this mega deep shiet?
>>25168144Bakkerfag samefagging in an Elden Ring thread back in 2022https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/380223096/#380259523
This guy actually needs to get off the internet.
>>25168140It's a philosophy book.
>>25168151Bakkerfag? He's clearly a NEET considering his 10 year consistent pattern of shitposting in the thread at all hours. I agree with you.
>>25168148It's a folk song from Europe.
I get it. I dislike bakker fans too, they deliberately ignore me because I will post wall of text criticisms demanding they justify why Cnaiur is totally complex as they pretend like there isnt open evidence that I read the entire first trilogy of books and claim I don't get it, because Cnaiur saved a random women with a child, and proyas (even though there was prior dialogue implying that Cnaiur came to respect some of the inrithi and their way of war) but frankly I'm tired of it. If bakker fans wont engage with criticism, then theres zero value in engaging with them, they offer nothing to learn from and will just use your complaints as grounds to make fun of you for not "understanding" (not liking) bakker.We don't need to point this out everytime. We can simply ignore them, and if they spam so much that it disrupts discussion, just silently report and carry on. I'll be reading again later today and talking about it.
>>25168169Why do you samefag every 10 minutes, Bakkerfag?
>>25168156You're lying to me. Just like Bakker fans did.
Holy fuck this has the most uninteresting protagonist I think I've ever read in a book.The villains are ten times more interesting. I'm trying to get through it. But jesus, I cannot like stand these boring ass characters. The heroes are literally some Jewish psychiatrist. Holocaust survivor, a fat educated redneck sheriff and a black chick.
>>25168170????
So when will this Bakker shit end
>>25168174What Bakker shit?
>>25168095What did you mean by this post on /vg/?
>>25168171Herbert is not Bakker lmao
>>25168176Have you not been here recently or something
>>25168178This post?>>>/vg/>>561616569Kill yourself, Bakkerfag. ^_^
>>25168178>^_^Poor guy, he's probably a weeb.
>>25168179Thats not what I said. Anyway I'll read Dune when I come across somebody that can write anything remotely philosophically interesting about it.
>>25168184>Can't even link a post on another board.Ultra-Newfag detected.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/561523541/#561616569>>25168178>>25168188What did you mean by this post on /vg/?
>>25168172Which is interesting. Dan Simmons spoke of writing being such a difficult and complex activity, almost imperial (as some would say), and told us you need to he very intelligent to do it, very learned, and strip yourself of every vanity to do it well. Yet all he could write about in his books was Jews, the Holocaust, and dead writers.
>>25168195Sorry, I don't engage with retards who cannot link posts from other boards.
>>25168196I'm not such a fan of jews...
This sub-human believes that "Truth Shines" was a sentence invented by Bakker. This is how mind broken he is.
>>25168203Wee bit racist, innit lad?
>>25168203I accept your surrender.
>>25168206>>25168209>>25168211Bakkerfag's VPNs.
>Spends entire thread calling others newfags>Can't link to a post from another boardSome jokes do write themselves.
>>25168196I mean he he also wrote the terror and hyperikn, and i'm not seeing really the jews in the holocaust inthat although there is one jewish character in hyperion
>>25168218What does you findings 4chan during 2016 have to do with literature?
I like books.
>>25166667Sanderson wrote conclusions to several series, including his own.
>>25169553Other than his own drivel and WoT what has he written the conclusion of?
>>25169585His series and WoT. Was that not clear?
