Plato and Nietzsche were tight about the importance of math in philosophy, even if they had completely different reasons for their positions If you can't pass high-school calculous, you have no business in philosophy and will only shit it up
145iq should be the bare minimum for publishing in philosophy
>>25166528>>25166534exactly, mathematics is admired only by inferior thinkers
>>25166534I disagree. Pencil necked stemtards will perish in the great war. They are of no use.
>>25166528>If you can't pass high-school calculous, you have no business in philosophy and will only shit it upThis is true. What is also true is that if you try using that ability to pursue something as hollow of humanity as collegiate level STEM or a career which requires such a degree you are even more unqualified to consider the questions of life.
>>25166539Imagine saying this about HIGH SCHOOL math. >>25166554Passing high-school math isn't any special "ability", it's just the analytical analogue to reading at a 12th grade level
>>25166528>calculous
>>25166528Brutal Truth you say?https://youtu.be/vuzb11rM74k?si=76uP6wkPUFOiGUdg
>>25166618all math is trying to make a system designed to count coconuts do things other than count coconuts
>>25166528If you can’t spell “calculus” you’re not in a position to dunk on anyone here. There’s another side to this story, Aristotle and Hegel. They both btfo mathematical thinkers. Numbers are among the dumbest, most abstract objects of thought. Quantity is a mere aspect of being and it’s useless in metaphysics because metaphysics has to stand above it to even be metaphysics. Maybe later I will post some choice quotes. Here’s just one zinger from Hegel’s Logic.“The perversity of employing mathematical categories for the determination of what belongs to the method or content of the science of philosophy is shown chiefly by the fact that, in so far as mathematical forms signify thoughts and distinctions based on the Concept, this their meaning has indeed first to be indicated, determined and justified in philosophy. In the concrete philosophical sciences philosophy must take the logical element from logic, not from mathematics; it can only be an expedient of philosophical incapacity which, instead of going to philosophy for the logical element, has recourse to the shapes assumed by the logical element in other sciences, many of which shapes are only adumbrations of that element, others even defective forms of it. Apart from this, the mere application of such borrowed forms is an external procedure; the application itself must be preceded by an awareness not only of their meaning but of their value, too, and such awareness can come only from reflecting on them, not from the authority of mathematics. But logic itself is such awareness and it strips these forms of their particularity which it renders superfluous and unnecessary; it is logic which rectifies these forms and alone procures for them their justification, meaning and value.”
>>25166681>all math is the natural number systemLiterally nigger brain pants on head ooga booga tier IQ
>>25166906Anon, this board is too retarded for maths. Its why they constantly cope.
>>25166681Geometry wasn't even fully integrated into counting math until Descartes, it arose distinctly and separately as a math of ratios similar to music notes.
>>25166906>>25167049>>25167087>system invented for building mud hutsthis must be the african philosophy i've heard so much about
>>25168223Euclidean geometry wasn't for building things
>>25168241https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclidean_geometry#Other_general_applications
>>25168249It sure can be used for building things and still is. That wasn't what Euclid wrote it for tho
>>25168274*not what euclid organised it fori guarantee that most of the propositions were invented for mud hut building
>>25168277>erm Henry James didn't actually write anything, his secretary did
>>25168290yes, euclid is exactly like someone who only wrote down the ideas of others. correct
>The mathematics are either pure or mixed. To the pure mathematics are those sciences belonging which handle quantity determinate, merely severed from any axioms of natural philosophy; and these are two, geometry and arithmetic, the one handling quantity continued, and the other dissevered. Mixed hath for subject some axioms or parts of natural philosophy, and considereth quantity determined, as it is auxiliary and incident unto them. For many parts of Nature can neither be invented with sufficient subtlety, nor demonstrated with sufficient perspicuity, nor accommodated unto use with sufficient dexterity, without the aid and intervening of the mathematics, of which sort are perspective, music, astronomy, cosmography, architecture, engineery, and divers others. In the mathematics I can report no deficience, except it be that men do not sufficiently understand this excellent use of the pure mathematics, in that they do remedy and cure many defects in the wit and faculties intellectual. For if the wit be too dull, they sharpen it; if too wandering, they fix it; if too inherent in the sense, they abstract it. So that as tennis is a game of no use in itself, but of great use in respect it maketh a quick eye and a body ready to put itself into all postures, so in the mathematics that use which is collateral and intervenient is no less worthy than that which is principal and intended. And as for the mixed mathematics, I may only make this prediction, that there cannot fail to be more kinds of them as Nature grows further disclosed. Thus much of natural science, or the part of Nature speculative.—The Advancement of Learning, 1605)
Show me the mathematician and show me the philosopher, and I will show you who remains when the atomic bomb is deployed at the hand of it's one inevitable creator
>>25168489>The Resposability of the Scientist Today - Alexander Grothendieck (Mathematician and philosopher)http://ccnr.org/grothendieck.pdf
>>25168315All words are the ideas of others. Euclid invented proofs and basically founded math based on rational and abstract proofs instead of trial-and-error. There is a famous anecdote about his student asking what it was even good for and Euclid telling his slave to give the student money. This tied into a general Greek outlook of mathematics as a spiritual pursuit, which Plato and Pythagoras or his school believed.
>calculous
