Has Stoic fascism ever been tried? I get that a large point of Stoicism is acceptence of the world and life-affirmation, but it doesn't feel right to sit idly by as the neurotic and the anxious, the bitter and the resentful, the indulgent and the insolent whip the masses into a feverish frenzy while engaging in pathetic and meaningless struggles that push people away from the path. The Stoics weren't epicureans, after all. They didn't denounce the active life. They saw us as social creatures.
You are an utter retard, and dont even know anything about life of Marcus Aurelius or how he applied his philosophies to his rule.And fascism is fundamentally opposed to stoicism, especially because fascism came as an opposition to british liberalism, and british liberalism was literally tied with stoicism.
>>25166975I take fascism to just mean authoritarianism, the state enforcing a teaching upon people would be authoritarian. Not sure how british liberalism is tied to stoicism.
>>25166965>fascism to just mean authoritarianismThen dont, that is not what fascism is. And Roman Empire was already literally authoritarian at the time (Dominate). >british liberalism is tied to stoicism.British (Classical) liberalism of the time was integrating quite a few Stoicist aspects.
>>25166993Like what, and what is fascism if not authoritarianism?
>>25166965Epicurean fascism
>>25167000Liberal-Democratic fascism is possible, if liberty and popular-democracy are taken as absolute principles rather than as referring to constitutionalism or the voting process
>>25166965die in a camp please, sweetie, thanks
>>25166986>I take fascism to just mean authoritarianism>I take furniture to just mean table
>>25167219>Liberal-Democratic fascism is possibleThis would literally go against the entire fascist doctrine, dumbass. Have you even read anything from Mussolini or Annunzio?
>>25167273Well, that seems to be how it is in the standard vernacular. However, I consider fascism to be authpritarianism where the state actually indoctrinates people into a doctrine instead of being all vague and shy about it like today.
>>25167219Not really sure what you mean by this. Liberalism is generally not keen on popular democracy. At least, that used to be the case.
>>25166993Listen, if liberalism adopted stoicism or something, then how come liberal democracies are so filled to the brim with people who act more like hedonist utilitarians while the meta seems to be to rile people up into a loyal base?
>>25166965>I'm 12 and this is deep
>>25167343How? I didn't say anything profound, just asking a question.
>>25167321I did say british classical liberalism, you fucking mongrel
the replies itt prove exactly why stoicism isn't communal or enforced
>>25167413the problem was when the universities started tolerating cartesianism and calvinism, laziness and insolence
>>25167404That's not very stoic. Fair enough. Classical liberalism may well be dead.>>25167413How do you mean?
>>25167413Stoicism was communal. The stoics attended lectures and had discussions and read aloud to others. It was a lived philosophy with a community.
