The old Greco-Roman pagan faith is not that disimilar to Christianity, it even has it's own hell/purgatory - limbo/heaven afterlife structure.No wonder Christianity spread like wildlife, the groundwork had already been done.
Is this bait? The underworld isn't anything like Christian hell, it's also on earth
in greek hades you dont get tortured for eternity you just sort of chill with your dead bros unless you pissed off the gods like Sisyphus
>>25169226>>25169230Tartarus is eternal torture, explicitly mentioned then there is limbo before crossing styx if you don't get proper burial, there is Elysium where the good people go to chill.There is also general Hades(?) where purgation happens.
>>25169207>ChristianityWhich Christianity?Tertullian? Clementine/Alexandrian? Valentinian? Stylitean/go into desert and selfishly live as if the world outside your cave doesn't exist? Or Marcionism that's basically modern evangelism that pretends OT barely exist apart from psalms? Or Synesian "Christianity"? Arianism? Nestorian? "Burn all nonchristian books, don't learn to read, math is Satan..." Or the Cappadocian "we quote Hellenic books more often than we quote bible" Fathers?Infernalists or Apokatastasis?Salvation through uttering the verbal spell of faith in JESUS or the embodied living of what faith actually is aka love?
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>>25169459Even Paul used the old Hellenic faith to draw parallels and to teach. Im talking ofcourse about Orthodox Christianity.
>>25169207Read Plato's Phaedo, is 30-40 pages long and should clarify this even more
>>25169476What does or would it clarify.
Read phaedo and the republic. Virgils concept of the underworld is mostly borrowed from plato
>>25169226Dante was heavily inspired by Aeneas travelling to the underworld in the Aeneid. And he is very frank about Vergil's influence. Vergil of course was influenced by the Odyssey
>>25169983He basically defines hell and heaven, but makes it cyclical: According to him if you are good, you go to heaven and enjoy 10x more the amount of goodness you did, and if you are bad you go to the underworld and suffer 10x more your evilness. Then you reincarnate.
>>25170059>>25170079That's great BUT In the Aenid there is a clear 1:1 mapping to the Christian concept of heaven and hell, hell as in continued torture is Tartarus and heaven is Elysium.Purgatorio is the default position once you cross styx and before you were in limbo. It's very 1:1
>>25170113Well, Virgil did not come up with that. It precedes him, and even Plato did not come up with that either, but his idea is a close ancestor to Virgil's.
>>25169207This is baitbut also>The old Greco-Roman pagan faith...as if there is only one...
>>25171440Where is the bait?
>>25169459>Focusing on multiplicity over what unifies, the matter over the unifying principles, the many over the One.That's the mistake here.>Good is one; many are the base. Truth is one; many are the false. True righteousness is one; many are the states that act it as a part. God's wisdom is one; many are the wisdoms of this age and of the rulers of this age which come to nought. The word of God is one, but many are the words alien to God.Origen, On Prayer
