Does this book really cause the on the fence agnostic readers to adopt apostolic Christianity?
>>25171592if you're old enough you can adopt whoever you want
>>25171592Agnostics already on the fence, absolutely. I don't see how you can read the Zosima section as someone already "on the fence" (i.e. willing to believe) and not come away at least closer to believing
Yea
>>25171592Doubtful, seeing as the majority of agnostics are on the way out of religion, and not that many are religionless and going in.Just on the sheer numbers of people who are religious. It's not very likely that you'd end up finding a lot of previously not religious agnostics getting convinced by fiction, when they're already a living counter-example to the preaching of the novel.It's really only going to be convincing to people who are already believers, and maybe having doubts. Anyone already leaving, won't be swayed by this.
I'm almost done with The Idiot and honestly I like it just as much as TBK
not i. the book shows that ivan is wrong but there are reasons he might go through the feelings we see other than that christ is god, the son of god, and the only path to redemption. ivan thinks that if there is no god, everthing is permitted, but finds that there are things his conscience will not brook. i don't feel the existence of russian orthodox god is the only explanation.
>>25173352What about Demons?
>>25171592It would be beyond gay to change your mind because of one book.
>>25171592yes then I read Homer and became Ancient Greek Pagan
^*Hellenist
>>25173953I havent read it. How is it?
>>25171592>I adopted?No, I abducted>I begat?No, I abortedAnd had her SpanishMother deported>A zygote?Lay there half a-breathin'Will be gene therapyFor Joseph Biden
>>25171592I was suffering through apostasy and this book was the final piece that set me free of Christian guilt.
>>25171592>ESL
>>25171592maybe.I mean The Inquisitor is a pretty good argument against the pragmatism of its titular antagonist.The book itself makes you question illogics/rationales and why these apostles seemed to have found the one thread of logic that is from God that men can follow to understand Him through His Son the Logos.I guess it makes sense if you tie logic, reason, and phenomenology into how God created/sees reality rather than other fallen human perspectives (while insightful and relatable are ultimately confusing/absurd).
>>25175573ESLjacketing
all of you brainlets missed the point from the end of the book where Alyosha and his friends mourn the passing of that dead kid, that even in the most miserable, horrible points in life, the single act of holding together with your fellow men can bring forth such beauty despite the cruel nature of living. The promise he made with them, and their comradery is proof that life is worth living, and to praise and worship existence is commendable, irrelevant to the question if god does or does not exist, because only thus you can live a worthwhile life.
>>25175340>^*HellenistFuck your gay shit, Alex
Did for me.That and reading the GOAT.
I'm atheist leaning, but the book made me want to be a better person, because he makes depravity look repulsive and virtue attractive.
>>25171592Dostoyevsky's belief is far more nuanced and complex than many Christians like to pretend. He had a great hatred for the Catholic Church and Protestantism and while he valued the Orthodox Church he valued it as a traditional Russian institution and seen its place as more maintaining belief in society instead of seeing as the way to Christ, as demonstrated by his dislike for priests. He was much more individual and doubt-ridden than he is presented to be. Read his short story The Beggar Boy and Christ's Christmas Tree to get a better understanding of his personal belief
I read Dostoevsky and it turned me into an atheist. 10 years later, I read Nietzsche and it drove me closer to Christianity.For some reason, I have a tendency to be skeptical towards any claim presented towards me, so if offered any option, I will usually tend to steer my opinion towards the opposite.
>>25177450you should read the bible
>>25177450NIetzsche did the same for me. I sort of think he fundamentally misunderstood Christianity because he saw it through 19th century german lutheranism. I guess he liked Jesus but didn't like St. Paul. In a lot of ways Beyond Good and Evil was what gave me the strength to throw my weight into religion and disregard all the "umm actually, that's not logical" dorks out there. Maybe he saw Christianity as a slave religion, but I doubt he would say that the mystical christian worldview is inferior to that of the modern nihilistic bugman.
