Why does no one ever talk about the fact that "literary intelligence" AKA verbal intelligence seems to warp people in weird ways, that other kinds of intelligence just don't?I mean if you really read about Lovecraft, Hemingway, Edgar Allen Poe, Woolf, Pessoa, Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, et. al. you will very soon realize "oh these people are actually fucking bizarre, like genuinely 1 in a million levels of uniqueness in terms of personality." And it is only literary figures like this that complain of isolation. Like you never see Einstein, Neumann, Gauss, Cavendish, Newton et. al. complain about loneliness or isolation even though several of them were incredibly isolated and weird. But Kafka and Kierkegaard wrote constantly about how they felt like a bizarre creature that had no proper human on earth, about how they spent their entire lives acting because there was no human around which they could be themselves, if such a thing was even possible. I say this of course because I consider myself splashed with a touch of whatever "that" is, I mean, my isolation from all other people on earth is so brutal it verges on desperate. I feel like the last bird of a species singing a song no one alive understands.
>>25173885shut your mouth, slut.
>>25173885What the fuck are you talking about larper, you see the exact same thing in STEM. Turing was a gay borderline pedo autist who killed himself. Gödel would only eat his wife's cooking and starved to death when she died.
>>25173885> I feel like the last bird of a species singing a song no one alive understands.Reddit is thataway, dumbass foid
Nah, in fact, I'm just gonna say it. It's because my brain functions the same way that Kierkegaard's did that I'm alone. When you mold your entire world view around a set of abstract ideas that YOU CAME UP WITH YOURSELF AS A CHILD IN ISOLATION, then you end up alone. When it would take -at least- one book for others to grasp what the hell you're even talking about, to say nothing of having an informed opinion, let alone being able to contribute to the system of ideas, then you end up alone. It doesn't matter if they mock you. It doesn't matter if you're perceived as a clown. They do the ritual mockery every single time. If one of these names whose books you read came up to you in public and spoke his mind, you'd laugh at him on the spot and try to get your friends to laugh at him too. And you never even consider that you might be wrong. You have no eye for history. You do not realize that events tend to recur.I have nothing to lose by pretending I'm one of you anymore. I won't even be reading this thread anymore, because you have nothing to teach me. So bye.
I've been thinking about how to get more books as good as Moby-Dick into the world. What if someone paid a great writer $1 million to write a novel with a tier of bonuses ranging from $200k to $5 million depending on the novel's quality? Could something this simple actually work?
>>25173904This was meant for a different thread kek.
>>25173885>Like you never see Einstein, Neumann, Gauss, Cavendish, Newton et. al. complain about loneliness or isolation even though several of them were incredibly isolated and weirdScientists don't write about that because it's not their main job, they mostly stick to writing about science. Literature is much more about your inner life, so if you're a write you will be much more likely to expose any pathologies you have.
>>25173892>>25173897>>25173898samefag retard gtfothis board is for awkward and sensitive souls
>>25173885I agree with what you say but it might trigger the STEM Indians who relate to Newton and Tesla for being virgins for life, and romanticize them as if they were poets when in fact they were just quiet savant retards. I believe >>25174185's answer is correct but incomplete, language and writing attempt to explain whatever it is wordcels throughout history have felt and lived, and have been the driving force behind metaphysics and religion (there's a reason the Bible is a work of excellent literature and not axioms and definitions), and the most spiritual people like Saint Augustine, of whom his incredible verbal intelligence no one doubts, were insanely gifted with language, the same can be said of Plato.
In short, writing is essentially the product of self-knowledge. STEM types are simply unreflective.
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I don't think there is actually a difference. Great mathematicians all had very high verbal IQ and great writers all most likely had enormous aptitude for math or potential aptitude for math. I am completely convinced that Kierkegaard, Kafka and Nietzsche could have been professional mathematicians if they pursued that, and Nietzsche himself loved math because it cultivated skepticism in bullshit, although he also said math is just a set of human rules (the most common position mathematicians hold today although plenty also subscribe to mathematician Platonism).Midwits tell themselves they have "high verbal IQ" to cope with being midwits. No, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard and Kafka could all read Greek. Even Shakespeare, who had very limited education.in Greek or Latin, could probably still read them better than more than half the people on this board who think of themselves as being able to read them, and this is obvious by all the English words he coined by pulling them from Latin. These languages have much more sophisticated grammar than ours, and the mind which can think in that grammar with precision and beauty would certainly be able to in math. Every gentleman who was forced to learn Latin as a boy growing up, was also forced to learn math and you will never find any of them talk about low math IQ but high verbal IQ, they all loved Euclid and considered math fundamental to taste in music and art.Your point that many mathematicians didn't complain seems foolish. When Euler went blind he said good, less to distract him from his numbers. This isn't because he had "low verbal IQ", just because he didn't find much pleasure in sharing his woes with others. He found his pleasure in math. The Book of Disquiet is actually pretty close to this, since though the narrator complains about loneliness it becomes increasingly apparent that he finds his own mind much more interesting than friendliness or pity from others, and he mainly feels lonely because he prefers being unhappy the way the Underground Man does.
>>25174185This is also why people think artists are “mentally ill” or that being “mentally ill” makes you better at art or something. No, those are just the people whose inner lives you hear about.
>>25174671The Biblical laws and descriptions of the temple and land divisions are all more autistic than even analytic philosophy
>>25176586this
>>25173885>oh these people are actually fucking bizarre, like genuinely 1 in a million levels of uniqueness in terms of personalityis it that they're 1 in a million personalities, or they're 1 in a million wordcels, and able to fully and completely transmit themselves onto the page?
>>25173885Personality is innate. Being is deterministic. You can struggle against it all you want.But scientists don't kill themselves and writers do.Life is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy to those who feel. It was always as simple as that.
>>25176813Scientists usually just have easier early lives for whatever reason.
>>25173885Because they're less strange than a guy that's so genuinely strange and isolated the idea of isolation didn't even cross his mind
>>25173885Wordcels are midwits trapped halfway between normies and the realm of pure intellect. The great scientists were 100% alien gigabrain turbospergs that either didn’t give a fuck about people or simply learned to imitate ape behavior.
>>25173897you can have very high verbal intelligence and also be good at mathif you look at what turing and godel accomplished it makes sense they'd have more in common with the average continental philosopher than someone like johnny neumann does
>>25176548>synthetic grammar = sophisticatedThose Papuan tribes who speak polysynthetic languages must have the most sophisticated and mathematical minds in the world
