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It captures the inner thoughts of bully victims exactly right. Never thought a book like this would remind me of my high school this much. The fear that surrounds you while walking through the same street to school everyday, the intense desire to be ignored by them, to not to be seen, the strange way of just letting them do whatever to minimize the damage as much as possible - it gets the details correct. And deep inside I used to long for a girl like Kojima too around those times, guess the author knows what it's like to be there. It captures how fucked up teenagers realistically are.

I'm gonna get my kids to read this (if I ever have any), they gotta know this book before entering high school.

And that's book #3 for me.
What do you think of Mieko Kawakami, anons?
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>>25174605
>bullying
pussies. Just punch them in the face once and they'll leave you alone.
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>>25174608
little did that 11 year old me know, right anon?
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>>25174616
My dad told me to do this at 7 years old dude
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man its all funny to me now when I remember those times. it doesn't really matter to me anymore but sadly it wasnt the same case for the lil one at those times. hope i will be able to make it different for my kids at least.
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>>25174620
cool dad anon. my parents would look at me like i was the criminal and in the wrong lmao.
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>>25174620
kek same my dad told me "just pick the biggest bully and punch him square in the nose bro just do it i did it too" but he forgot to mention that he's like 6'10" and was probably already massive in school
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Oh yeah, I read this, it was eh, whoever translated it done a good job because some of the prose and techniques are nice. it was okay I guess. Some cool bullying techniques like when they put a deflated volleyball on the kid’s head and start kicking the shit out of it those Japs actively pursue the most wicked forms of bullying. I don’t know what goes through their heads. I posted in that other Jap thread about Junko Furuta, which shows how far jap teens will go
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>>25174605
I loved Breasts and Eggs. The way it is written makes you really feel like you are inside the mind of woman.
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>>25174750
>whoever translated it done a good job because some of the prose and techniques are nice.
same opinion, especially the dialogues. it was perfect
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>>25174605
>I'm gonna get my kids to read this (if I ever have any)
Lol
There's something 'weird' about people like OP
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>>25174765
guess mieko kawakami does a great job on that. i enjoy it a lot when i get to see the world in female perspective
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>>25174608
the bully would tell the teachers that i hit them,
then i would be the one getting in trouble. The
bully was loud & popular, i was the weirdo, so nobody believed me.
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>>25174750
>they put a deflated volleyball on the kid’s head and start kicking the shit out of it
meanwhile in the west being called names behind your back by the kids who were already fucking at thirteen is seen like a life ruining trauma
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>>25174605
Solid book. The different coping strategies used by the kids are interesting but that scene where the bully rationalizes his actions was lackluster. You should check out The Girl Who Became a Fish by Dazai and Confessions by Kanae Minato. Real World by Natsuo Kirino is great too.

>>25174620
Same. But if you do it you might end up getting expelled from school which is what happened to me. I made too much of an example of the kid (I scraped the hell out of his face on a brick wall and knocked him unconscious), lol. The bullshit thing is a couple weeks before the kid got into a different fight right in the classroom, he had a history of being violent and starting shit, but I'm the one who ended up having a meeting and being told I was suspended for the rest of the school year and wouldn't be permitted to enroll the next year.
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>>25174605
You should track them. And stab them.
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>>25174605
I was never really bullied, so I couldn’t compare what I read to personal experience. If anything, I was more like Momose in high school, though I never bullied anyone. I cringe thinking back on it.

I still struggle to understand the mindset of bullying victims. Reading this didn’t help much. I get the fear, I got into my share of fights as a kid and took some pretty bad beatings. I was terrified several times. But if you’re going to suffer physical abuse whether you resist or not, why not fight back? Sure, you might get your ass handed to you. That happened to me more often than not, but it usually made bullies avoid me and pick an easier target.
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>>25175766
When you're abused you end up internalizing it and believing you deserve it (think about battered wife syndrome). Dealing with that as an adult is hard enough but when you're a kid it's next to impossible. Also, kids that are bullied are targeted because they're easy prey. Odds are they lack the support network to do anything about it, schools will frequently side with offenders because going against a herd of parents who raised shitty kids is harder than taking the side of a neglected child (which is its own can of worms), and cruelty is inherent to people. All it takes is one dominant kid getting jollies by elevating himself above another and the herd will follow suit.
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>>25175766
>>25175772
So it's not really "fear" motivated as much as it is shame. That combined with being a child that hasn't developed the state of mind to deal with something as complex as cruelty for its own sake possessing a herd of peers targeting you as if by some hate driven fate and not reason.
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>>25175766
I see those bullying videos sometimes and the bullied just stands there looking sad. Is it depression? Is it anemia? Of course if your peers don't like you it's a part of life but they are holding your hair and punching you, your arms are free but you don't even go for the eyes when you could get away with it since it's self defence
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>>25175772
>>25175775
I see.
Thanks anon.
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>>25175790
If you're a social outsider and you defend yourself odds are that the school will side against you. Adults are still social animals and if you have a group of students harassing a single one instinct says it's somehow the fault of the one. It's called "learned helplessness". If you have it continuously beat into you, literally, that the group is more powerful than you are odds are you won't feel the impetus to defend yourself. You sense that justice doesn't really exist and learn people are rarely held to account for their actions. A mature understanding of it understands that cruelty can possess someone and make them feel powerful, cowards will want to distance themselves so they don't fall victim like the bullied kid, and the bystander effect takes care of 99.9% of the rest. Rarely a kid will stand up for another or a teacher will take it upon themselves to do something but that type of person is like 1 in 100,000 (just look at how genocides are carried out and how rare it is for someone to risk themselves by going against it).
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>>25175743
Thanks for the recommendations, anon. They look interesting. Will try.

>>25175749
Used to fantasize about that a lot, actually. There's a funny story when I thought I was gonna die that day. There was this girl I liked around that age. The whole class somehow found out and started calling me names. The next day I found myself surrounded by some big bastards holding a knife, whether to actually stab me or just scare me, I wasn't entirely sure. But I was sure they wouldn't hesitate going too far. Told me stay away from her. It was essentially a warning. They were concerned that some random guy was bothering her, and that random guy happened to be me.

I've long forgotten how much I cringed at that whole situation, but I was scared, genuinely. Kids holding knives, and someone in my class telling me I'd get karma that day and laughing about it. I actually thought they might kill me. It probably would've been the most cringest way to die kek.

Had no idea what to do, my anxiety blurred out the entire world. But I just argued my way through it, told them I hadn't done anything, that it was the class who blew it up, and that I'd never even been near her, which was honestly the truth. But these guys weren't exactly using their brains to process things, so reasoning wasn't getting far.

There was one at the center who seemed like their leader, and noticeably more intelligent than the rest. I managed to pull him aside and just... talked to him. Used his intelligence as an advantage to manipulate him into thinking I could be his friends by giving him that intellectual stimulation lmao. Gave him something interesting to think about. His attitude shifted. The other bastards weren't convinced though.

That's when a friend of mine who was pretty popular, the funny type everyone liked just stepped in and vouched for me. And that was somehow enough to settle things.

Afterwards I went out to look at some knives myself. Decided to carry one from now on. But came home empty-handed. It just didn't feel like something I'd actually do.

>>25175772
Exactly.
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>>25175827
I always defended myself when in that situation, but there was no assault on their part, and three months later my parents got sick of the dumb teachers nagging about me being the antichrist and placed me in a private school far away from jelly poorfags
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>>25175877
Now imagine not having involved parents at home, you already know the school targeted you even though you were defending yourself, and being stuck in that situation for years on end. Also you're a kid and, if you remember, back then a single day felt like three, a week almost a month, and a year like five.
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>>25175877
those government funded public schools ruined my teenage years
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I was one of those bullied kids that turned into a little bit of bully as I got older, because I was so insecure. Think of me like Ninomiya, trying to keep up this leader facade, though I was far less cruel, and only engaged in the kind of bullying you see in western schools which is really gay and tame.
>>25175705
Even worse the this which showcases bullying in japan is the VN subahibi which just makes you feel sick.
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>>25176392
I once did the worse to an autistic kid back in 5th grade. Pulled his pants down in front of everyone. Girls were embarrassed trying to hide their laugh and the guys were just laughing at him openly. The autistic kid (not sure if he was really an autistic tho but he acted like one and thats what we called him), he immediately pulled his pants up and attempted to brush off the situation with an awkward laugh. He got called names for a few days that his dick was like a mushroom and stuff.
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>>25177415
That’s just funny though. I did make an autistic kid cry by simply… saying really nasty things. Did feel bad? Not at all then, and now? Kind of,
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>>25177500
yeah, it was funny. and it still is to me. but yet deep inside i feel bad for him. never should have done that
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Yeah
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>>25178225
No



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