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If Ted Hughes was such a bad guy, why did women bend over backwards to give him everything he wanted? Why do women blame men for being sexually magnetic and animalistic, when that's all they fantasize about?
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>>25175887
Sean Penn vibes.
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>>25175887
for people who hate women so much you sure do spend a lot of time thinking and talking about them
bad bot
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>>25175934
I loathe them for I want to overpower them and use them... for my own wicked desire...
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>>25175941
you could point a loaded gun at your head and overpower the trigger, for my own wicked desire
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>>25175944
I live in a first world country with gun control laws, so I can't do that for you, incel.
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>>25175945
wrong, you live on a shelf in a server farm because you're a bot. cease oxygen exchange or post recipes, but no more weak parachute pamphlets thank you
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>>25175945
>first world country
>gun control laws
>probably caused by rampant, violent migrants
Settle down, Nigel.
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>>25175887
Some guys just have it.
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>>25175887
He wasn't. He was your typical flawed person with your average insufferable BPD woman for a wife; and fat ugly women have revised history ever since.
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>hughes was a working class man born in rural semi-poverty
>plath was a rich priveiliged child of academics
Why do plathfags pretend plath was the disadvantaged one in their relationship?
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>>25176127
Because she's literally a woman, chud! Are you an incel or something?
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thanks for doing society a favor and not reproducing
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>>25175887

I met Ted Hughes around the same time I met the elderly publisher—early seventies. He had just published his deathward poem cycle called *Crow: From the Life and Songs of the Crow*. In these astonishing poems, a crow with a bloody beak sits in a tree looking down on a world in love with death. The poems were gory and fierce, full of nature red in tooth and claw—not surprising for a poet whose two lovers had committed suicide, the second taking their child along.

The reasons were different for each—if suicide can ever have a reason. Assia Wevill, whom Ted Hughes apparently fell for while he was still with Sylvia Plath, was the child of Holocaust survivors—a group at great risk for suicide. Sylvia Plath had suffered depressions and suicide attempts during her adolescence, as she recounted in her novel, *The Bell Jar*. Both women were in love with Ted Hughes—who cannot have been an easy man to love but was compelling. When I met him, I understood why both these brilliant women fell.

He was fiercely sexy, with a vampirish, warlock appeal. He hulked. He was tall and his shoulders were broad. His hair fell against his broad forehead. He had a square jaw and an intense gaze and he reeked of virility. Moreover, he knew how irresistible he was in the Heath-cliff fashion, and he did the wildman-from-the-moors thing on me full force when we met. He was a born seducer and only my terror of Sylvia’s ghost kept me from being seduced.

I remember sitting across a bar table with Ted and his friend Luke while Ted put the poetic moves on me. Knowing I’d want an autographed book, he snatched my copy of *Crow* and drew, on the title page, a lecherous snake climbing an Edenic tree. “To Erica, a beautiful Surprise,” he scribbled flirtatiously, as he must have done with every woman he met. You could inhale the man’s pheromones across the table—this stink of masculinity and musk that must have worked on countless girls. His eyes held you in his gaze as if you were the only person on the planet. The only other man I’ve met who had such intensity was Ingmar Bergman, another born seducer—in the gloomy northern style. Are these men from the cold and gloomy north so sexy because they taunt you with the promise of sex that can melt icebergs? Or is it the intensity of genius that attracts? Genius is a strong aphrodisiac.

I have treasured Ted’s inscription for years and wished we had fucked. But Hughes’s flirtations were legendary. Since his death, from cancer in 1998, dozens of women have come forward to claim that he was their secret lover. Perhaps I was lucky the flirtation was never consummated. At least that way I could keep him as my secret demon.


— Erica Jong, ‘Seducing The Demon: Writing For My Life’
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>>25176338
Basically, leftist women hate Ted because he was a chad and not some low T male feminist faggot? Checks out.
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>>25176127
Women are always the disadvantaged person in a relationship, no other factors matter.
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>>25176338
He would be #metoo'd, cancelled, and permanently barred from any industry function or social gathering if he lived today.

Truthfully I resent women, having to walk the tight rope between "fiercely sexy, with a vampirish, warlock appeal" and the fact that you can have your life destroyed, your career ruined, be imprisoned, etc. the moment any woman anywhere decides she doesn't like you is exhausting. I was SA'd as a young man and I constantly feel anxious around them. Last time I tried to sleep with a woman I was drenched in sweat and you could see my heart pouding through my chest. Of course I couldn't get hard, it was humilliating. She was sweet and held my head against her chest and pet my hair and told me it was okay, but still it was an awful experience.

I wish I was some kind of seducer who women would fall for immediately and cherish the memory for years, but I am a deeply broken man and women can sniff it out almost immediately.
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>>25176338
Zamn
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Women have a unique mentality in that their right hand never knows what their left hand is doing. This is build-in because they are emotionally sensitive and cannot, like men, handle ever living with feelings of remorse or shame. I have had a woman chide me before for hanging out with a younger woman because it was a clear "power imbalance" but there was nothing sexual even though this younger woman was obviously very into me and she knew that, and then I looked at this woman chiding me with a blank expression because she herself was younger than this woman she was condemning me for hanging out with, yet she herself nearly had sex with me before and we would eventually fuck. Then she suddenly realized how stupid she sounded in light of that and said but with me its different you know that, I have matured emotionally a lot more than she has. You know that. That's women for you

>>25176105
She had mental disorders for sure, but BPD wasn't one of them, and she wasn't average at all
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>>25175887
combination of good looks + overtly masculine in a field populated by limpwrists and gays + still sensitive and contemplative + extraordinarily talented. I get it desu. The Crow is kino
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I'd be gay for him, not going to lie. These larger than life, beyond good and evil people... powerful.
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>>25176338
Fucking hell women are pathetic
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>>25176711
…sure, bud. The fact that you know of him means you should kill yourself
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>>25176711
you'd cave at the first bpd art hoe who struck up a conversation with you at the bookstore
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>>25176716
Bpd arthoes only work for certain men and maybe certain ages.
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>>25176716
rollan
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>>25176716
>all of them have shit taste
Shan’t
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>>25176716
Most of this taste is completely unrepresentative of women. Dostoevsky or Asian literature and the Latinx stuff are plausible but not anything else here for 99% of women who read
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>>25175887
Favorite Hughes poem/collection? I've always loved Lupercal.
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>>25176975
Best book: Crow.

The early collections (Hawk, Lupercal, etc) have a lot of good stuff but quite a lot of filler too. The middle period is less good, just a few gems. Then he had two hits with Ovid and Birthday Letters (but BL weren't all written late of course).

Some of Moortown is decent, given how raw it is, just a journal written straight down.

The Iron Man is a great children's book.

Individual poems:
Jaguar
Wind
October Dawn
Thrushes
View of a Pig
Pike
Snowdrop
Wodwo
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>>25176975
Tales from Ovid
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>>25176668
The Meinkampf face

>>25176716
Rollin

>>25176975
Either Crow or his Oresteia translation.

I have a really hard time with Tales From Ovid which I find pretty subpar poetically and not really effective as a Metamorphoses translation.
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much better than Plath
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>>25175887
>women like bad boys
mind == blown



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