Can some Aristotle Christcuck please explain to me what differentiates Aristotle from Plato? From everything I've read of Aristotle, it just seems like he was embarrassingly filtered, like a 12 year old atheist. Please, if there are Aristotle tards out there, justify this nigga's existence. I'm at the point where I believe that the only reason he exist is because Jews want to portray Christianity as a consequence of his metaphysics which are ultimately retarded.
>>25182930Not fond of either but from what I recall offhand>Plato believed in metempsychosis while Aristotle believed it was at best unproven>Plato believed matter was shaped by form while Aristotle believed that form was the result of the expression of an innate property in matter>Plato believed that good ethics were the result of knowledge of the absolute supreme good while Aristotle believed they were the result of intelligently engaging in deliberately good actions
>>25182930chicken thing mainly
>>25182930Aristotle:>A is APlato>A is whatever you think it is unless youre retarded
>>25183000>metempsychosisI can only think of Ulysses now when I hear that word, hah.
>>25182930Very simplified but i'd frame the evolution from Plato to Aristotle as something like:Plato: 'truth must be eternal and unchanging, and since empirical reality is changing, whatever truth is to be found in it must have some independence from this empirical reality. Because truth seems to have some independence from it, we must consider empirical reality as having less reality than its independent truth of it.' Aristotle: 'By conceptualizing change as something moving from potency/matter into form/actuality, we can coherently think the truth of empirical reality even as it is changing, and so truth is no longer something we have to think as independent from this changing empirical reality, but rather as something within it.'
>>25182930The core difference is Aristotle has forms and matter and Plato has ideas and creation. Forms, for Aristotle, are hylomorphic, i.e. the information that tells the matter what to be and to be is present in that matter locally and invisibly and immediately and seamlessly. For Plato, the ideas are not in matter at all. St. Thomas kind of bridges this with what he calls examplars, which basically says it's God's ideals that a particular genus or species depicts. Aristotle's metaphysics are more tools to understand creation, in my view, and Plato is more a tool of pondering creation. A friend said it well, Aristotle for my mind and Plato for my heart.
