Was it really a tragedy? Honestly this most be the most hilarious play I've read from Shakespeare. The characters aren't even some noble figures like in most of their plays, they're just retarded kids discovering love. Why isn't this considered among the problem plays?. It felt more like a comedy desu
>>25183676Comedies are tragedies to midwits
>>25183676I haven’t really looked too deeply into this play but I always figured it satire on overdramatic teenagers. This play is awful, no wonder kids in high school don’t want to touch Shakespeare afterwards. I envy the kids who got to study Hamlet though.
>>25183729>it satire on overdramatic teenagersYeah, that's what I got too. These kids are no Oedipus or Hamlet
>>25183676>Was it really a tragedy?Yes. >they're just retarded kids discovering loveCorrect.>Why isn't this considered among the problem plays?Because the opinions of contrarian pseuds are of no value.
>>25183823Why is it a tragedy? Because they had bad luck?
>>25183829Fate dealt them a cruel hand and character traits that are otherwise admirable aided in their downfall.
>>25183839What's so admirable about two horny pubescent cunts?
>>25183839>>25183846They’re neither cunts nor admirable. Just rather vacuous. Which is to be expected considering he’s 17 and she’s 13.
>>25183846>What's so admirableThey overlook the generations of animosity held between their families by valuing one another in love. >two horny pubescent If you hadn't missed out on having a girlfriend in high school you'd know why Shakespeare chose that age.
Tragedy just means the protagonists don't get a happy ending. Comedy means the protagonists do get a happy ending.
>>25183857Like >>25183851 says, they're just kids being kids, nothing admirable about their crazy ass. It had nothing to do with their family differences
>>25183851What they represent is admirable. The fact they're adolescents, still experiencing the world via some last vestiges of childhood innocence and during the heightened emotional stakes of that age, lends itself to the tragedy.
>>25183868You're just painfully filtered, anon. It's obvious you missed out on teenage love and lack the intellectual facilities to objectively read into the characters.
>>25183876I do get teenagers fall crazily in love and feel like the world is over when their first love doesn't work. I've been there, idiot. I don't see how thats something admirable. You do not look back to that age and think "Wow, I was such a noble guy", you laugh your ass off at yourself
>>25183676If you had a a crazy adolescent love you'd get it I guess.Antony and Cleopatra utterly mogs btw. Shakes best love play by far.
>>25183880>I do get teenagers fall crazily in love and feel like the world is over when their first love doesn't workWe both know you didn't apply that knowledge to the play before I pointed it out to you, anon. >I don't see how thats something admirableThe admirable element is that their relationship with one another overrides existing animosity between their families. Love allows them to set aside a vendetta.>You do not look back to that age and think "Wow, I was such a noble guy" If it was someone dating someone from a family they were at war with you would. Also, people die on the highway every day and it isn't a big deal. If a couple of teenagers die, even if they were joyriding, their school will hold an assembly and there will be memorials in the community.
>>25183868>It had nothing to do with their family differencesIt's in the prologue, retard:Two households, both alike in dignity,In fair Verona, where we lay our scene,From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.From forth the fatal loins of these two foesA pair of star-cross'd lovers take their life;Whose misadventured piteous overthrowsDo with their death bury their parents' strife.The fearful passage of their death-mark'd love,And the continuance of their parents' rage,Which, but their children's end, nought could remove,Is now the two hours' traffic of our stage;The which if you with patient ears attend,What here shall miss, our toil shall strive to mend
King Lear and Hamlet are also loaded with jokes. Shakespeare was depicting young teenagers, so of course he depicting the silliness of their age which is what makes more plausible and more tragic. Shakespeare also uses comedy to prevent his audience from getting desensitized to tension by releasing it so he can come back to it laterProblem plays don't end with every character being killed.