I didn't sign no "social contract".
>>25183779if you steal a wallet in japan you become a subject of the japanese emperor and thereafter it would be very dishonorable not to bow in his presence
>>25183783>if you steal a wallet in japan you become a subject of the japanese emperorthat makes no logical sense
>>25183819>pay for crimes committed makes no sensegigga nigga
>>25183840you don't sign a "social contract" when going to prison you fucking lobotomite because you're no longer part of society
>>25183853you enter a social contract once you're born. it's on you if it's severed by breaking the law. not my fault you're a dumb nigger.
did they ask me if I agreed before holding elections to spend my money?
>>25183883newborns can't consent
>>25183885>my moneyWhat a grand and intoxicating innocence
>>25183779Right. Where exactly in the social contract does it say that we have to pay taxes to pedophiles?
I'd like yo read this contract, if you please.
>>25183779You signed it by being born. If you dislike this then we have a place where you can go. Prison.
>>25183779You can opt out.Then you are an out-law, and any person can legally kill you.You can enter the state of nature.>>25183886>>25183971Birth has nothing to do with it, except in the sense that any man has the capacity to kill any other man, the Stephen Hawking could ram his wheelchair with an ice pick into your neck while you were sleeping even if you were built like Hulk Hogan.The foundation of the social contract is the common capacity for deadly violence and the absence of immortals which makes the contract necessary. None of you read the book.
>>25184160>Stephen Hawking could ram his wheelchair with an ice pick into your neck while you were sleeping even if you were built like Hulk HoganI would have bodies that cripple easily no matter what the circumstances were.
>>25183779I still think Hobbes was evil.
>>25183779Your dad signed it for youHe wrote it in cum on the dotted line of your mother's cunt,And then rolled over and went to sleep.
>>25184329based begetter>>25183779triggered tot
a contract only binds you in as far as you care for the consequences of breaking it
>>25183779Damn straight, brother.
>>25183819Take it up with the Supreme Court
>>25184338it's pretty hard not to care about the consequences of breaking a contract when the other side can use violence against you, and they have more violence than you do
>>25183779[Chigurh tosses the quarter in the air, catches it, then places it on the counter with his hand over it]Chigurh: Call it.Proprietor: Call it?Chigurh: [sighs] Yes.Proprietor: For what?Chigurh: Just call it.Proprietor: Well, we need to know what we're callin' for here.Chigurh: You need to call it. I can't call it for you. It wouldn't be fair.Proprietor: I didn't put nothin' up.Chigurh: Yes, you did. You've been "putting it up" your whole life, you just didn't know it. You know what date is on this coin?Proprietor: No.Chigurh: 1958. It's been traveling 22 years to get here, and now it's here and it's either heads or tails. And you have to say. Call it.Proprietor: Well look, I need to know what I stand to win.Chigurh: Everything.Proprietor: How's that?Chigurh: [annoyed] You stand to win everything. Call it.Proprietor: All right. Heads, then.[Chigurh removes his hand]Chigurh: [deadpan] Well done. [flicks the quarter to the proprietor] Don't put it in your pocket.Proprietor: Sir?Chigurh: Don't put it in your pocket, it's your lucky quarter.Proprietor: Well, where do you want me to put it?Chigurh: Anywhere not in your pocket. Or it'll get mixed in with the others and become just a coin...[gives a glance] which it is.
>>25183819Wronghttps://youtu.be/R4WxoyV4GTQ
>>25185125Obviously. The corollary of that is that you have no incentive to be npc cattle aside from direct threats. Even then it is your own judgement that the consequences are worse than the benefit. In other words, if you recognize this fact you aren’t upholding the social contract in the way that Hobbes demands. You would have no reluctance to ignore the rules where it benefits you.
Did you guys know that Kant was a Hobesian?
>people will unironically defend Leviathan on this siteNo wonder evil is literally winning and world cannot heal
>>25185155Damn society says I cannot rape as it exceeds our cultural norms, now I must be a slave to their expectations or I will be punished violently. >t. you
>>25185164Stop raping, ser.
>>25185164>muh rape>t: midwit
>>25185170Convert to Islam and John the Taliban. Rape is free in those freedom of Leviathan lands.
>>25185187>muh rapeYou really are a retarded normalfag, if you think this is about rape and cant see anything wrong with the society. All ills of modern society started with Hobbs.
>>25185190Name a perfect society utopia anon and let us judge what better world exists then this one.
>>25185164Hobbe's believes rape is fine as long as the sovereign approves of it.
>>25185198*whipsoutdick*
>>25185198leibniz...
>>25185198There are plenty of authors writing about how to fix the world and plenty of movements that tried it. Fasci Siciliani, Georgism, Arts and Crafts, Diggers, Dostojveskij, Tolstoj, Gogol, Murras, Roerich, Technocracy Inc, Proletkult, Sorel.
>>25185198hunter-gatherer way of life
>>25183779What if we renamed it to 'Public circumstance'?
>>25185217Why did they fail? Because they couldn't improve the lives of enough people to spread. Admit it you hunter gatherer utopia anons, this is the best it gets! revolutionaries always fantasize that they will be the ones raping, when in fact, society protects them from stronger sodomizers.
>>25185198Any society that follows the law of Ma'at
