Which characters are the most obvious author self inserts?
Levin
>>25185440Any female protagonist written by a woman.
>>25185440Any Kafka protagonist. Any Charlotte Bronte protagonist.
>>25185453Plain mousey receptionist girl gets ass raped by handsome billionaire (she likes it)
>>25185460Plain mousey cashier girl who can mysteriously afford an apartment in Manhattan dabs on the girls who bullied in her school every day and is fucking the president (she likes it)
humbert
>>25185465Not Lolita?
>>25185440Most modern scifi I've read is ruined by self-inserting. The characters, like the author, are either school teachers, engineers, mathematicians, etc. This means the main character is basically a 1:1 copy of the author, besides the ability to pull the solution to any problem out of their ass. All the other characters also have the same way of speaking, the same humor. If it's important to the story that they have a different personality, the author generally just makes them flat, or the polar opposite of the main character. Picrel is a good example. Almost everyone is a clone of the main character. It hides his weakness well, at first. The more of the series you read, the more you realize the author is autistic, he can't comprehend things beyond his own POV. Peter Cawdron,Ian Heller, Tom Strelich, these are just some of the other recent ones I've read that ruin a potentially interesting story by... well, being themselves.
>>25185440Demodocus the bard of the Phacians who performs for the king and whose specialty is Trojan war stories is a stand in for Homer himself. Arguably the second bard the suitors in Ithaca take hostage is also another stand in. >>25185452Yes and it’s a rare instance of the character not ending up a ‘Mary sue’ as they say so that is why people like Levin.
>>25185477https://i.4pcdnHere. I don’t like modern sci fi so much but I loved this novella. Put the links together.My recommendation for you if you want good sci fi that isn’t just self inserts and STEM autism. .org/tg/1613032252191.pdf
>>25185479>people like Levin.They do? I thought he was awful.
>>25185485Most /lit/izens tend to like him I guess
>>25185482Thank you anon.
>>25185485He's only awful if you don't finish the novel.
The internet hates the concept of "self insert" characters and gaslit themselves into thinking it's inherently a bad thing
>>25185440I would let her perform fellatio until completion on me if she insisted.
>>25185514She wouldn't. In fact she would do everything in her power to limit her interactions with you to the bare minimum :)
She’d love me though, she’d totally want to suck me off. Even the face that she’s making is filled with envy for MY cock specifically.
>>25185526Maybe I'm extremely attractive and manly and girls fall in love/lust with me all the time though, you don't know about that, you're not my dad.
>"hey this is a pretty good narrator">learn more about Olga>she is the narrator
>>25185505Part 8 was the worst part of the novel and almost ruined it for me after how good part 7 was.
>>25185656The entire novel is perfect. The problem is with you.
>>25185666Okay, Satan, whatever you say.
Bardamu.
>>25185440Every writer in a Stephen King work
>>25185694But I'll add that I don't hate him unlike most of /lit/. The dude writes fun stories without caring what the critics think and you gotta respect that. IT is his magnum opus imo (and one of the main characters is a WRITER)
>>25185773Get the FUCK off my board and return to r/books
>>25185776Fuck off, if you can't handle a minority opinion YOU don't belong here faggot.
>protagonist is a writeralways makes me irrationally angry. I suppose stephen king is the worst offender
>>25185440They aren't EXTREMELY blatant but Lovecraft and Ligotti tend to share traits with the characters they write. I think that's a positive for them though. The real answer is Anita Blake, Laurel K Hamilton used her as a mouthpiece for polyamory after she took her divorce really poorly and turned into a polyfag
>>25185932always gets an eye roll>he was a writer, if you could even call him that, he hardly ever wrote...
>>25185684Unironically not. Bardumu is seen as cowardly in war whereas the real Celine was rewarded medals for his bravery.
>>25185440Paul in Taipei by Tao Lin. I wondered why he didn't just use first person narration and call himself Tao.
>>25185440the ones that are painters. authors love to think of themselves as baisically painters.
my diary desu's protagonist
Kerouac protagonist's, but his books are autobiographical.
>>25185971Because you didn't read Eeee Eee Eeeee, Shoplifting, Richard Yates, or Leave Society where he does the same thing.
>>25185440Jesus
>>25185452Also Pierre (War and Peace), Olenin (Cossacks), Nikolai (Childhood, Boyhood, Youth), and Nekhlyudov (Resurrection). But all of them are pretty fictionalized compared to Levin, who is literally just Tolstoy
>>25185440Too many to name, especially when it's a writer protagonist. How blatant do you want?NO PRETENCE— Dante, Vita Nuova, Divine Comedy— Dylan Thomas, Portrait Of The Artist As A Young Dog [autobiography plus poetic licence]— Hemingway, A Moveable Feast [autobiography, but some people say it's a bit fictionalized]— Wordsworth. Housman. Cavafy, Plath, Sexton, etc. Almost any poet writing in first person I guess, when it's not a clear dramatic monologue.PRETTY MUCH SAME NAME— Charles Bukowski, ‘Factotum’, etc [Henry Chinawski]— Philip K. Dick, ‘Valis’ [‘Horselover Fat’]DIFFERENT NAME BUT PRETTY BLATANT— Louisa M. Alcott, ‘Little Women’ [Jo March]— D. H. Lawrence, ‘Women In Love’ [Rupert Birkin]— Graham Greene, ‘The End Of The Affair’ [Maurice Bendrix]— Truman Capote, ‘Other Voices Other Rooms’ [Joel Harrison Knox]— Sylvia Plath, ‘The Bell Jar’ [Esther Summerson]— Charles Dickens, ‘David Copperfield’— Lawrence Durrell, Alexandria Quartet [L. G. Darley]— Ernest Hemingway, ‘The Sun Also Rises’ [Jake]— Raymond Carver [a lot of his stuff would fall under this category I think. It's often first person with a no-name narrator]— William Golding, ‘The Paper Men’ [Wilfred Barclay]— John Fante, ‘Ask The Dust’, etc [Arturo Bandini]SLIGHTLY LESS BLATANT— Knut Hamsun, ‘Hunger’ [no-name narrator]— Dorothy L. Sayers [Harriet Vane]— Kingsley Amis, ‘Lucky Jim’ [Jim Dixon = composite of KA & Philip Larkin]— Truman Capote, ‘Breakfast At Tiffany’s’ [another no-name narrator IIRC]— Stephen King, 'Salem's Lot', ‘Misery’, etc etc he just loves his author protags
>>25187305There are so many that it might be easier to list the famous authors who DIDN'T self-insert.Shakespeare is the obvious candidate, but supposedly Berowne in Love's Labours Lost is a bit of a self-insert (witty fellow who likes wordplay and prefers to observe rather than participate).I don't recall P. G. Wodehouse putting himself into his world at all (which is a bit surprising since authors who create some idyllic fantasy world usually can't resist writing themselves into it).Thomas Hardy might qualify. There are no obvious self-inserts.Cormac McCarthy resisted temptation to some extent (he avoids the writer protagonist trap) but I guess there's quite a bit of him in the character of Suttree.Emily Bronte didn't self-insert into Wuthering Heights the way Charlotte did in JE etc, but I guess that was because she had self-expression as herself in the poems.
>>25187332Emily's self-insert is Heathcliff
>>25185694Every writer in any novel at all, honestly.
>>25185440every russian ever
>>25185510To be fair, it can be very immersion breaking even when the writing is excellent.For example I love Patrick O'Brian's novels, but all the obvious irl influences Stephen Maturin and his relationship with Diana take me out of the narrative.Ideally, a self-insert ought to go unnoticed.
Obviously Ayn Rand and her self insert female characters in Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged.There was also a copypasta about it.
>>25185440Who was Dosto's self-insert? Alexei Ivanovich?
>>25187509All the pedo characters
>>25187509Goryanchikov of course, but also Raskolnikov, Myshkin, Kirillov, and Smerdyakov. Alyosha is based on how he would've wanted his dead son to grow up.
Dante
most of the thomas mann novels have a selfinsert thats obviously himself, in buddenbrooks its the little kid that plays the piano, death in venice and in magic mountain the maincharacters
>>25185440The main guy in the porn I write is literally me. It made me realize it's super based to crack jokes while I fuck.
