I don't get it. Do you need to be a woman to get it?
>>25191936I'm a man that hates women and considers them fundamentally inferior to men (except in moral worth) and it's one of my favorite books so no.
>>25191936>woman wants to have her cake and eat it too>she gets thisYes.
>>25191936You need to be White
>>25191936You need a modicum of inner experience to get it. Its a great filter for hylics and NPCs.
>>25192208It's just a shitty romance novel nigga.
>>25191936No, you just need a modicum of good taste.
I enjoyed the experience despite not getting it (I'm a man).I also enjoyed Pride & Prejudice (book) more than Sense & Sensibility (book), but I enjoyed Sense & Sensibility (1995 film) more than Pride & Prejudice (every film) despite not getting any of them (I'm still a man).
>>25192221It’s not shitty. I don’t like Austen at all but she’s a more than adequate writer.
>>25192953The 2005 version of Pride and Prejudice is awesome. Even Kiera Knightley couldn't ruin it.
>>25191936Her prose is good, but it's a 300 page book of a female's inane rambles. >Do I pick Chad A or Chad B?... le sigh>Uh, yuck, Chud proposed to meThere aren't enough Mr. Bennett scenes. Fun challenge for reading this book: Count how many times a female character takes action in a situation. i.e. how many times does a female character make a choice with actual consequences?Hint: You don't need to know any numbers past 5.
>>25191940>considers them fundamentally inferior to men (except in moral worth)Elaborate on the parenthesis
>>25193036This would be a mark in its favor, would it not? Men are supposed to be the decision makers. Women are therefore supposed to go with what culture tells them, to some degree. It therefore becomes the task of the noble man to provide a culture that encourages healthy behaviors in women.
>>25193136Nature wasn't counting with the development of a certain subversive tribe.
>>25193136It is incredibly boring/infuriating to read a story wherein the main characters exist passively. On the plus side, it gives you an uninhibited view into the female mind.
>>25191936this book is literally about How even being rich doesn't get you pussy till you literally save her family from honour suicide. Elizabeth gets the ick the second darcy proposes her because he is a chud /lit/ user while Wickham the chad naturally attracts her. If it was written in present times, Wickham would have pumped and dumped all her sisters and Darcy would have taken the responsibility for the bastard children, Elizabeth finally realising family isn't about who's the father but who actually stays.
>>2519305710bux responding to this guy derails the thread.>>25191936There's not much to get, it's one of those behavior books like Little Women/Men where it tries to show the reader how to act according to what the author thinks is a model for a good person. Liz gets over her prejudice and Darcy swallows his pride, they both grow up through a mutual character arc and are better for it, find they like each other when the other isn't being a retard and get hitched, the end. It's done through example and the telling of the story and the characters' development instead of just preaching at you, keeping that the main focus for the narrative, so it's stuck around. I can definitely see why it caught on when it was new and these dynamics hadn't been rehashed to death yet, but it's dated enough now to be quaint. What I find most interesting about Austen novels is that I often find men tend to enjoy them more than the women.>>25193036Not familiar with the era? It likely wouldn't have gotten published if it were otherwise.
Most of these talentless writers come from rich families. And their rich families have enough resources to shill their shit books. That's why pseudo intellectuals worship these books.
>>25191936Mr Darcy is literally just like me frfr except tall, rich, handsome, and kind-hearted.
>>25194253so you're just autistic?
>>25191940>(except in moral worth)Jesus christ
I’m almost Darcy but actually I’m more like Heathcliff but far less cool.
>>25193036This may be part of Austen's point: that the women of the time had no agency, and were hostages to fortune. The best they could hope for was to marry into money. This is the expectation that Elizabeth is rebelling against. Though of course, as in most chick-lit, she gets to do just that.
>>25193615>>25195038There's a scene where Elizabeth wants Mary to stop singing. Does she:A) Tell Mary outright to stop singingB) Make up a pretense to talk to Mary about some woman stuffC) Sing herself only so that Mary can stopD) Ask her father to get Mary to stop
>>25195076Women should be able to ask men to handle things. That’s part of the arrangement. But men should also tell women no when women are being unreasonable. This is the part that modern simps don’t understand. Part of masculinity requires being able to tell a woman no.
>>25193036Mr Bennet was a smarmy cunt and Mrs Bennet was 100% right in recognizing that her only job was to marry her daughters well.
>>25195076Who has authority over Mary?
>>25191940>I'm a man.LiarTits or GTFO
>>25191936austen died single and childless much like the creator of sex and the city will one day
>>25196937and you
There’s not much to get, is there? I remember I hated Liz and her decisions, but a quarter into the book I realized that’s what I was supposed to do. Or at least that’s what I decided was right. From then on, realizing this was the tale of a foolish woman I was supposed to dislike, I enjoyed the book immensely. It’s a very light read, too. Only my tired eyes prevented me from reading it it one day.
The book is famous for its two set pieces both involving Elizabeth putting her social betters in their place.
>>25193556This is what bothers new whenever I read a story with a female protagonist. It drives me up the wall when the protagonist is passive.
