I repeat, Nick Land is crashing outHe's bitter about people caring more about Mark Fisher than him and says the CCRU story will be told
>>25199982Fisher was a suicidal retard honestly. I've wrote several pieces of writing as to why.
>>25199982He's right. Fisher gave up. His path leads to the bad death of heat dissipation ("assuming room temperature"), whilst Land's path leads to the good death of capital/AI replacing humanity and realising the telos of life.
>>25199982None of these clowns are worth paying attention to. Read Ellul.
>>25199982Work out a narrative, huh Nick? Does a good narrative say that posting this shit is valuable? Or that reading this shit is valuable?
>>25199982idk why nick land expected to become famous, he didnt have the organizational abilities of richard spencer
>>25199982>Nick Landwho?>the CCRU storywhat?
>>25200548But he is famous if you read books. Oh, I see...
>>25200026Fisher's Capital Realism and the Weird and the Eerie are so mid it's unreal. Literally dumbed down, often descriptive pop philosophy for the masses. There is literally nothing to gain by reading him if you have a proper education, unless you just find his work entertaining.
>>25200548Did Spencer even write anything or is he just a pundit?
>>25200917I just don't find the thoughts of someone who writes about the dearth of capitalism but then plays pied piper off a cliff and expects his acolytes to follow him but he's the only who dies. His books are crash course in gaslighting 101 and unlike Lasch and other left-wing adjacent fellow travelers he is unable to grapple with the managerial elites who use progressive cultural capital to divide and conquer people likely because there's an intellectual lineage going back from him to folks like Adorno and Trotsky and such who cannot see that maybe their ethnic ilk need to self reflect about some things.
>>25200560>what?
>I get a lot of "If only you'd hung yourself rather than Fisher" but I didn't, though.goes crazyleftists think dying is a virtue
>>25200972If it serves revolutionary ends then anything is game.
>>25201035>revolutionyeah when's that happening bro
>>25199982He has been an endless crashout from the day he war born, what else is new?
>>25201042I'm not a leftist, I was actually remarking that its what they do.
who?
>>25200926spencer wrote the reactionary oath of the reactionary oath society. he then led a protest movement and said hail victory>>25200907spencers reactionary oath is more likely to be part of an intellectual history of the 2010's than anything by nick land. nick land would be an irrelevant leaf node in the giestesgeschicte if he had said one single new thing
>>25200548>richard spencerLmao never heard of him
>>25202044>an intellectual history of the 2010'sLmao maybe a lolcow history of the 2010s
>>25202154yes, the 2010's is the age of lolcows, and spencer and chandler are the men of that time, who put effort into becoming what they are. land was a halfass lolcow
at least "outsideness" or whatever he used to call himself had some weight as a coinage. "xenocosmography" is just half-digested greek
>>25200198Socrates gave up too which honestly discredits all of western philosophy
>>25202246socrates didn't "give up." he simply valued being correct more than being alive
>>25199982I think Nick Land is otherwise cringe but he's speaking facts about this. >>25200972Leftism is a death cult. Why do you think they worship abortion and communism (the one ecomomic ideology that has killed more people than anything else)?
>>25199982Mark fisher pointed out with some self-awareness that he was stuck within a limited ideological horizon, unable to peek beyond.Nick Land is not sharp enough to have that self-awareness, and just kind of projects whatever ideological horizon he is stuck in at the time into fanciful fantasies. Fisher's death is a tragedy, Land's life is a farce.
>>25202251Capitalism has spent the last 500 years upending literally everything while a global kleptocracy steals everything and murders everyone who gets in their way.
>>25200026Okay Nick
>>25202271skill issue, git gud faggot
>>25202257Fisher was so right about Capitalism tho.And its compatible with matrix theories about suffering and robots basilisk and cicada 3301s time war
>>25202271Capitalism is a man opening up a shop to sell goods. Jews are the issue. The fact that the same 5 umbrella corporations own every big business isn't a fault of capiltalism. It's the fault of the free market, and --the agents behind it -- the jews. You're retarded.
>>25200237This, Land is an obscurantist sophist who hoodwinks halfwits with his disgusting writing style. His oeuvre just complicates that capital is a runaway machine of total dominance and growth that is obtaining increasing intelligence while striving towards a final telos and form. There, I saved everyone the time that would be needed to read Lands crap. Better to read Ellul and Langdon Winner. Land is the type of person Ted K. would mail bombs to.
>>25202289>men opening up shops in 1950s communist russia was literally capitalism
>>25199982i was told this guy was the smart person's version of zero hp lovecraft. turns out their both massive faggoty victims kek
>>25202289I had an entire response typed up demonstrating your retardation but the page refreshed and it got deleted, and I already wasted too much time. Just know you're a vulgar hoi polloi fool with not one iota of either historical, theoretical, or actual practical understanding of what you are talking about.
>>25202289>muh naive capitalismyou don't even know what "capital" is, big guy
>>25202315it just refreshed by itself? i never heard of that
>>25202271so kill yourself about it then
Irrelevant goosestepping nazi who believes he's some wizard living in the matrix has a sperg out on twitter. why is this remotely relevant to /lit/? why to musk, thiel, etc worship these fedora wearing clowns?whatever, their egos are massively overinflated in any case.
Reminder that if you kill yourself (leaving a child behind btw) you lost the argument
>>25200972Fufilling your purpose is virtue and the point of all life is to die.
>>25202290I won't be reading anything, thank you very much. And thank you very much, very earnestly, for validating a presumption I made within seconds of stumbling across this thread that Land is not worth digging into (if you'll pardon the metaphor).
>>25202544would a communists purpose not be seeing communism realised?
>>25202558Communist are wrong, Fisher rejected communism and embraced truth by killing himself.
>>25199982Its kinda fucked up he would talk about someone he knew personally who he considers "core CCRU" as killing themselves entirely for philosophical reasons "thats the message he left you". Like maybe he was just depressed and theres really no intended message
>>25202508TR\/KE
Can someone spoonfeed me on who this is and what this is about?
>>25202551>that Land is not worth digging into (if you'll pardon the metaphor).kek
>>25202571see >>25202290
>>25202508What is so bad about this?Mark Fisher's suffering ended
>>25202279Nah, different guy
>>25202638Yeah but he left behind a kid. A kid. Deadbeat dad. Black behavior.
>>25202648So what? It's sad but life goes on. Do you know anyone who lost a parent to suicide? Is their life automatically ruined forever? No.
>>25202648Its all just a shared dream anyways.
so retarded jannies deleted >>25199390 for being "off topic" (because nick land and mark fisher having nothing to do with literature apparently) even though it's about the same exact thing as this thread and was made first. (two day ban btw)great job you fucking retards
>>25199982Hasn't this guy been writing since the 90's?Surely he'd know its hanged, not hung
>>25202638What suffering? His students ignoring him during lectures? Or the cultural production of capitalism being le bad even though he praised corny rock band from the 80's?
>>25199982>>25202257>he had a child, and hung himselfWatching contemporary left acc-cels pearl clutch and shrink from the maximalist Lemurian position in endless monkey branching infantile copes would be amusing, if they weren't fundamentally less virile than even Linkola.
>>25199982We don't talk like niggers here. If you want to talk like a nigger, then you can go literally any place else.
>>25200972Literally everyone dies though.
>>25203007Lol, no.
What even is his philosophy these days, just trying to fuck over humanity as much as possible?
>>25203011nothing remotely human survives the near future
>>25202994>crash out is ebonicsIt really isn't. Yes, they popularized it but they also popularized saying "period" at the end of sentences.
>>25199982Why wouldn’t he crash out?He had just started his philosemitic era like Hanania only to watch Israel and the US be militarily defeated and humiliated by Iran.