Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Nietzsche.
Why is this one his most popular? it's some gay ass bitch talking cringe shit
>>25200589>t's some gay ass bitch talking cringe shit
Unreadable garbage. Why would you attempt to convey complex philosophical ideas through vague allegory? 100 different people come away with 100 different meanings. Was he attempting to ape the Bible or what?Absolutely horrible. I hate Nietzsche so much.
>>25200615>>25200589>filtered
>>25200616You only like it because its style invites eisegesis, allowing you to read whatever you want into the text.
if some pomo french commie said "night is also a sun" u would be like woaw that is profound
>>25200624I'm to the right of Mussolini and I think Nietzsche was a huge, coping faggot with insecurity issues.That his syphilitic ramblings could easily be believed to have been written by a gay Frenchman is indicative of how horrible his writing is.
>>25200629u sound like a seething christoid
>>25200623That's actually based and Heraclitean and how reality works you stupid rationalist.
>>25200643This is just a pretentious way of admitting you're a solipsist. If the text is a Rorschach test, your response is as meaningless as your interpretation. Don't mistake your own retarded reflections for insight, you dumb faggot.
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>>25200576This is just kabbalistic alchemy. He had some poetic talent, I’ll give him that, but I’d rather Nietzsche have been some benign accountant reconciling debits and credits to 0, rather than reconciling morality and reality to 0.
>>25200677If you take two things that are harmonic opposites, and falsely equate them, as Nietzsche does here with night and day, they lose their previous significance in respect to each other, and become absorbed in a shared meaning of everything and nothing, as zero is also similarly nothing with infinite potential. Of course night cannot be day, but you could take the statement in faith (the hypnotized are only the willing). There’s a satanic inversion at play in reversing God’s creation of “something from nothing” to “nothing from something” which acts as a spell on the willing, but unwitting victim. This sort of magic seeks to negate reality, so that the magician may then then LARP as God by conjuring up an artificial reality on the ashes of one they negated in the mind of the audience. One of the most painful examples of this alchemy being used on a large scale would be the false equality of men and women as taught by liberalism, which ultimately has its roots in this sort of magic.
Schoppy was a better writer than neetche anyway.
thank god i'm retarded. i'm totally protected from stuff like this. i don't need to be able to assess or argue his concepts like >>25200749, I just follow my gut and go "haha he was a spaz with a big gay moustache who went nuts over a dead horse?" and instantly i'm spared.the midwit bell curve meme is very real.
>>25200576I’ve always loved the idea of using fiction as a soapbox to just dump your entire philosophy into
>>25200749When reality becomes shattered on a mass scale in the minds of men, then only simulacra will be entered in on both sides of the equation: a reconciliation of the completely artificial. This is the Hegelian dialectic and the ouroboros.
It’s no coincidence that Nietzsche gets a shoutout in the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
>>25200749Fucking of course it had to be Nietzsche who birthed that interpretive, more art than academic philosophy that bred the unwarranted equality we have today and through it creating generation after generations of untermensch because of this antipodal relationship between male and female has become less so. Ironic.
>>25200615He’s Napoleon Hill for midwits.
>>25200677>kabbalisticWRONGHes just referring to Varuna
>>25200615>Was he attempting to ape the Bible or what?Something like that, yes. It's completely in line with his philosophy.
>>25200769>dumping something into a soapboxThats not what that means but I do find it based
>>25200576>>25200623>its style invites eisegesis, allowing you to read whatever you want into the text."YE HIGHER MEN, what think ye? Am I a soothsayer? Or a dreamer? Or a drunkard? Or a dream-reader? Or a midnight-bell? Or a drop of dew? Or a fume and fragrance of eternity?Hear ye it not? Smell ye it not? Just now hath my world become perfect, midnight is also mid-day,—Pain is also a joy, curse is also a blessing, night is also a sun,—go away! or ye will learn that a sage is also a fool.Said ye ever Yea to one joy? O my friends, then said ye Yea also unto *all* woe. All things are enlinked, enlaced and enamoured,—"
>>25200615>Why would you attempt to convey complex philosophical ideas through vague allegory?"He who knoweth the reader, doeth nothing more for the reader. Another century of readers—and spirit itself will stink.Every one being allowed to learn to read, ruineth in the long run not only writing but also thinking.Once spirit was God, then it became man, and now it even becometh populace.He that writeth in blood and proverbs doth not want to be read, but learnt by heart.In the mountains the shortest way is from peak to peak, but for that route thou must have long legs. Proverbs should be peaks, and those spoken to should be big and tall."
>>25201376little birds can flit from perch to perch, but raptors are confronted by the problem of gravity. the ghost that chases after me is surely more beautiful than i am, provided it is nietzsche's
>>25201385>little birds can flit from perch to perch,"And to me also, who appreciate life, the butterflies, and soap-bubbles, and whatever is like them amongst us, seem most to enjoy happiness.To see these light, foolish, pretty, lively little sprites flit about—that moveth Zarathustra to tears and songs.I should only believe in a God that would know how to dance.">but raptors are confronted by the problem of gravity."And when I saw my devil, I found him serious, thorough, profound, solemn: he was the spirit of gravity—through him all things fall.Not by wrath, but by laughter, do we slay. Come, let us slay the spirit of gravity!I learned to walk; since then have I let myself run. I learned to fly; since then I do not need pushing in order to move from a spot.Now am I light, now do I fly; now do I see myself under myself. Now there danceth a God in me.—Thus spake Zarathustra.">the ghost that chases after me is surely more beautiful than i am"Do I advise you to neighbour-love? Rather do I advise you to neighbour-flight and to furthest love!Higher than love to your neighbour is love to the furthest and future ones; higher still than love to men, is love to things and phantoms.The phantom that runneth on before thee, my brother, is fairer than thou; why dost thou not give unto it thy flesh and thy bones? But thou fearest, and runnest unto thy neighbour."
>>25201385>provided it is nietzsche's"To the good warrior soundeth “thou shalt” pleasanter than “I will.” And all that is dear unto you, ye shall first have it commanded unto you.Let your love to life be love to your highest hope; and let your highest hope be the highest thought of life!Your highest thought, however, ye shall have it commanded unto you by me—and it is this: man is something that is to be surpassed.""A light hath dawned upon me: I need companions—living ones; not dead companions and corpses, which I carry with me where I will.But I need living companions, who will follow me because they want to follow themselves—and to the place where I will."
>>25200767The line of thinking you refer to probably stems from an initial gut feeling. It intellectualizes to reasonably justify an intuition and works from a natural compulsion. If your heart is in the right place, you can’t go wrong, whether you intellectualize it or not, just as the opposite is true when having a hardened heart - enter the true midwit, maniacal retard, and evil genius (Nietzsche).
>>25201654platonists can only see the "evil" in a man who sacrificed his life for a mule. their punishment is to be forever excluded from the kingdom of aesthetics
>>25201665Kek
>>25201654>If your heart is in the right place, you can’t go wrong"The proof of 'pleasure' is a proof of 'pleasure', - nothing more; how in the world could it ever be established that *true* judgments are more enjoyable than false ones, and are necessarily followed by pleasant sensations according to some pre-established harmony? - The experience of all rigorous, of all profoundly constituted spirits teaches *the opposite*. We have had to wring the truth out of ourselves every step of the way, we have had to give up almost everything that our heart, our love, our trust in life relied on. It requires greatness of soul: the service of truth is the hardest service. - So what does it mean to be *honest* in spiritual matters? That you are strict with your heart, that you look down on 'beautiful feelings', that you make your conscience from every yes and no! - - - Faith makes blessed: *consequently* it lies"
>>25201678Ignorance is bliss
>>25201678This here is some Reverend Insanity.
>>25200795I still know nothing about the baudrillardian simulacra since I haven’t read him. I ask you, what it is you mean by this?
>>25201723What I mean by simulacra is the use of a symbol augmented and “evolved” from its natural association to prop up a hyper real space. I’ll use money as an example. Money used to be a symbol for minted coins (currency). When usury (an unnatural, unsustainable practice; there is never enough money to pay back what is created and loaned at interest) was introduced as a “legitimate” facet of large scale finance, a hyper real (unnatural) space was introduced. To sustain the hyper real, the symbol of money was removed from its association with tangible currency (gold & silver) to a purely abstract currency (fiat). We are now at the stage where debt-based fiat currency is competing in a dialectic with digital currency. The symbol of money is evolving to prop up the hyper real, illusory financial system. The simulacrum sustains the unreal situation. The farce will continue until the symbol of money relates only to social credit and property is abolished, or the financial magicians are deposed.
>>25200576I like the Strauss tone poem, so some years ago, I thought I would read what inspired its creation. About 3 chapters in, I gave up. Maybe it was a bad translation (I don't recall which one). But I couldn't follow what, if anything, was happening.
>>25201796i was gonna say fuck off, but this is an ok take. nice.
>>25201796Ah I see, the original meaning of whatever phenomena it is relevant to will be lost through the propelling it into simulacra. Then I wonder, what, in your eyes, will result of the man and woman competing in this similarly Hegelian dialectic?
>>25200589filtratus
>>25201835it will be men and women not competing, you fucking twat.
>>25201835Destruction of the family unit, followed by population collapse, and a servile state of divided and isolated individuals.
>>25201839I don’t think it’s that simple>>25201850This is already happening in some parts of the world.
>>25201850buy a pocket pussy/dildo and a penjamin to replace what you have lost in terms of progress
>>25201945Why?
>>25200589Honestly it's probably because it's the one where he is less of an anti-christian raving lunatic so it opens it up to a wider audience
>>25201982because according to our age love is a chemical and transitory >>25201993that's why I say that it was channeled from a higher entity, and he was just a lowly scribe. the entire tone is different from the rest of his work. plus he was in the "mountains," both literally and figuratively
>>25202002>because according to our age love is a chemical and transitory I like irony, but please don’t despair, anon. Love is a choice you can make no matter the circumstances. It brings joy and peace. Pleasure and pain are temporary, but not mutually exclusive from abiding love.
>>25202042Thank you for your conciliatory words but I must carry out my sentence. May you fly in the daylight.
>>25202122How long do you plan to carry out this sentence? Do you think you don’t deserve love?
>>25202143Until the waves stop crashing upon the shore. My crime I admit. Out of concupiscence I set forth onto other gardens and amidst the roses I've to find my red ideal not. Therefore upon their thrones, I bleed forevermore. Seriously, until I stop being a prick. Let's go back to neetcheeze.
>>25202182>thronesYou mean thorns, right? Beware succubi. Easier said than done.
>>25202190Were I dishonest I'd say yes but you interpretation of what lies beneath the surface is on the mark.
>>25200576kek
>>25201935it is that simple. get over your gender bullshit.
>>25200576I'm like Zarathustra if he just never bothered leaving the cave.
>>25200615>I hate Nietzsche so much.filtered
horse egg
>>25200589>>25200576Reminder fourth book is not canon and ought to be set to flames.You should stop reading after third book.
>>25203280uber mensch heredont you dare tell me what to do
>>25200589deep trite ground 0
>>25200616>muh Mietzschhheyou are filtered anonNietzsche famously didn't get Kant, cause he was a stupid chud
>>25200624French commies loved Nietzsche. Foucalts Deconstruction /IS/ Nietzscheanian Geneaologie you dumb faggot. Making both of them gay.
>>25200576Clearly incorrect. A sun is a large astronomical object composed of luminous plasma. The night is the absence of light from the sun. Those two are cannot be the same thing.Is he stupid?
>>25200589It's like... so deep, man.
>>25203286>Nietzsche famously didn't get Kant"Late in his active life, in 1887, Nietzsche read extensively about Kant again. During a visit to the library at Chur, Switzerland, in mid-May and early June 1887, he reread Kuno Fischer’s *Geschichte der neuern Philosophie: Bd. 5: Immanuel Kant und seine Lehre* and excerpted seven pages of discussions, summaries, and quotations from this work, based on five of Kant’s books.""The number of references to Kant in Nietzsche’s published works and notebooks reflects his importance for the late Nietzsche, with approximately 150 in the late period compared to 40 in the early and 25 in the middle periods. The late Nietzsche’s interest is more likely due to reading of secondary sources discussing Kant and to Nietzsche’s own increasing critique of Kantian-inspired thinking than to any direct reading of Kant.""In view of Kant’s enormous stature, Nietzsche’s reading about him must have been extensive. Probably the earliest and most important influences were Schopenhauer, Lange, Überweg, and Fischer, as mentioned above. Furthermore, Nietzsche returned to Schopenhauer and Lange often and reread their works many times throughout his life. Two of Nietzsche’s early friends, Deussen and Romundt, were deeply influenced by Kant and wrote books about Kant’s philosophy. Nietzsche owned four books on Kant by Romundt and one by Deussen. There are no annotations in these, but Nietzsche probably read them carefully. <...> Many other works by Julius Bahnsen, Johan Carl Friedrich Zöllner, Afrikan Spir, Rudolf Lehmann, Otto Liebmann, Philipp Mainländer, Eduard von Hartmann, and others are likely to have been important for Nietzsche’s knowledge of Kant."
>>25203291clearly unable to open ones mind up to freely and creatively conceiving beyond what the dictionary allows
>>25203297pack it up. boys.nietzche knew who Kant was and read him.the gay science doesnt involve homosexuality.our efforts are wasted here
