>>25206340
True, but it’s not like Gen Xers or Millennials ever did either. Well, Gen X made some decent music when they were younger.

>>25206340
They’re all miserable and image-obsessed.

I hate how anything of worth they do touch turns into shit

Zoomer derangement syndrome is already funny now but it will be even more when it's still going on 20 years from now and zoomers have eclipsed anything millennials have done.

>>25206382
not even that, really. GenX made a lot of doodoo in the 1990s.
All the good shit in the 1980s (of which there was a lot, it was nice to grow up then) was mostly by younger boomers.

>>25206435
>boomers were the last generation to make competent art
Grim.

>>25206340
It's just technology. You can't afford to be cringe anymore. You can't experiment.

>>25206340
This a good point. I'm gen z and I feel like I played it safe in too many aspects growing up which didnt get me anywhere

>>25206443
I like some late gen Xers in various things. They're what millennials think they are.

>>25206454
It’s funny. I see a lot haughty millennials these days because they’re no longer the youngest generation to come of age. My generation used to make them feel as inadequate as they do zoomers though so I don’t blame them for this attitude completely. Plus, it’s not like Gen X is innocent when it comes to corrupting art though at least I can admit that of my generation.

>>25206382
grunge and death metal were great, at least.

>>25206466
I dunno I don't like the fact I was born in 1982. I feel so different than anyone else my age.

>>25206403
Image is superior to letter, we have to go back to hyeroglyphics

>>25206475
You're Gen X for all intents and purposes tbqh

>>25206466
>>25206472
We kicked off Midwest Emo which is one of the whiniest gayest genres of music to exist. But a lot of cool rave music was produced too.
https://youtu.be/35-vtKP15yg
Perhaps it’s nostalgia.

>>25206475
‘78 here and I’ve been called an xennial which is a load of bullshit. you’re Gen X, you remember the 80s, which is enough.

>>25206477
for real?

They're afraid of believing in anything and being proven fools. The constant pressure of ceaseless surveillance (everyone with a camera in their pocket, eager to be famous for sacrificing somebody on the pernicious pedestal of progress) ensures a detached aloofness from the most well-adjusted of the generation. Conformity as a means of survival. Eccentricity, unless it's to be commodified, is simply a liability. Having a strong reaction to anything that isn't already approved through consensus is a quick way to get ostracized; and we live in a hyper-feminized society now.

It's just another form of nihilism and it regains vogue every few generations when the previous epochs institutions inevitably begin to crumble.

Really? That, not the fact that most of them can’t read at all and even the ‘smartest’ are only reading like 10% of what we millennials were reading at college age?

>>25206479
I'm a burger so rave didn't hit here quite as hard but I remember the Chemical Brothers (who my boomer dad seemed to like, too) and Aphex Twin (who I know is still making music and I love everything Richard D. James touches)

>>25206487
if that's the case why was Gen X so nihilistic? the 90s were supposed to be a decade of relative stability (aside from Waco/Ruby Ridge, but I was pilled on that early as a middle school kid, and the Kosovo War and Rwanda) but we seemed okay over here at least.

>>25206340
Bigger problem imo is just lack of attention span, overstimulation of information, and degenerating culture and educational quality. The general problems really started all the way back to boomers where literature has plummeted since.

>>25206500
You guys still had some cool music that may have not been as popular but was still pure American like deep house stuff from Chicago and NY in the mid-late 90s
And yeah RDJ is great but I love Autechre too probably because I’m a norf fc bong.

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the curse of sincerity

>Gen Xannies trying to recapture the glory days
Many such.

>>25206340
>On zoomer literature and art in general.

>Probably 3 archetypes, the same 3 archetypes we've had for a long time.
>Writers who don't read:
>>immensely profitable dogshit YA, derivative fantasy/scifi, and legally distinct fanfics imitating dogshit genX/millennial YA, fanfics, and maybe the odd shonen anime, video game or light novel if the writer is a man (mostly smut)
>Chronically online with literary ambitions:
>>writer spends more time on twitter, reddit or 4chan than reading, and believes using meme buzzwords and referencing current events is the next huge leap for literature, pretentious as fuck but indistinguishable from a forum post
>Serious writers:
>>actually reads and appreciates important literary works and practices and hones their craft to create a style that is both good, and captures what we're going through in our time, not literally in terms of current events, but spiritually
>I don't think we've seen many of the latter group in either the millennial or zoomer generations. I think if we do get a Great Zoomer Novel (maybe I'll have to write it) it'll be very schizophrenic, having to deal with (probably among other things) the disconnection from external reality that we experience with the internet and mass media, the way we're all isolated by our own set of currents in the sea of random information designed to serve desires we don't even consciously know we have, and now more than ever before, the way that this bleeds into reality through our actions. Disjointed, somber, probably laden with autistic word-games and intertextual cross-references to obscure anime or something.
>In summary, I guess if there ever does arise a Great Zoomer Writer, he'd be a lot like Delilo, DFW, or Pynchon, with the paranoia and fragmentation amplified and maybe less irony and probably a lot shorter.

Taken from https://warosu.org/lit/thread/25152342#p25158507

I don't think there'll be a Great Zoomer Writer because of the millennial shit that seeped into their brains (speaking as a zoomer here, member of 2004).
It'll be a while before someone publishes something 'good' or worth reading. Maybe never. Either way we're fucked.

>>25206576
Lot of words to say "We're algorithm zombies who barely qualify as human beings".

>>25206581
Well what about you faggot?
You have anything that makes you mongoloids better?

>>25206426
zoomers have already eclipsed millennials since they didn't do the quirk chungus funko pop woe is me routine

zoomer cringe culture was a natural reaction to seeing millennials make fools of themselves

>>25206534
MTV was actually forbidden in our house until 1997 so instead I watched VH1 and the 24hr news cycle on Headline News instead. Thats why i grew to be paranoid over time. That and my father was into shock jocks like Stern and Limbaugh and I heard my share of AM radio then. Nowadays he's mellowed out but I became "edgier". Dunno why.

>>25206719
my parents wouldn't get cable

>>25206725
At least you didn't witness the OK City bombing and think "yeah those people deserved it" when you were an autistic 7th grader and budding Nazi and getting the whole school to hate you.

>>25206340
I think everyone's obsession with cringe after roughly 2014 is why most people will stop making things of artistic merit. How can anyone put themselves out there in this climate of permanent humiliation? Humiliation used to be temporary and fleeting. I hate this world.

>>25206340
Zoomers will mog millenilols and xoomers fr fr

>>25206426
This

>>25206340
No, if that happens it'll be because of 24/7 electronic wirehead gooning