300 pages in…. When does it get good?
after your bong hit transplant
>>25206909Every time I see this, I think, what the fuck could Kojima do with IJ? He makes DFW look like Shakespeare.
>>25206909>one of the main characters is an honest-to-goodness glow-in-the-dark CIA nigger trannyDFW was decades ahead of his time
I'm sick and tired of the whole "Kojima is a creator of artistic masterpieces" meme
>>25206909I'm glad Kojima is finally developing another stealth action game. He sure took his goddamn time.
>>25206980Is he? It will suck—not that I even play games anymore but I just know it. The faggot hasn’t made a good game in over 20 years.
>>25206979>objective facts are a meme
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>>25207010Back to /v/ with you.
Wait... we didn't all unanimously agree years ago that Infinte Jest is the #1 poster boy book for "tryhard pseudointellectual performative faggot" literature?
>>25207037>we
>>25207047Yes, redditor. "We"
Infinite Jest performative and trite this; David Foster Wallace no discernible talent that. Does no one actually talk about this book in earnest anymore?
>>25207050the absolute irony of your post
>>25206909You haven't really started until you've hit the Joelle chapter.
>>25207068>ummmm, yikesFuck off, trannitor
>>25206909If you are not liking it yet you should probably stop now. With that being said, the last 300 hundred pages or so are the best part.
Try to make it to the Eschaton chapter though, probably one of the best chapters in the whole book.
>>25207201>the Joelle chapter.That, right on the hysterical cusp where internalized rage can so easily shift to externalized rage, the mother had hurled the -pH flask at the Daddy, who'd reflexively ducked; and that the rotter, one Orin, right behind, a former tennis champion with superb upper-body reflexes, had instinctively ducked also, leaving Madame Psychosis — dazed and bradykinetic from the sudden venting of so many high-pressure repressive family systems — open for a direct facial hit, resulting in the traumatic deformity. And that it had been everyone's failure to press any charges that had liberated the mother from Southeast-KY custody and allowed her access once again to her home's kitchen, where, apparently despondent, she committed suicide by putting her extremities down the garbage disposal — first one arm and then, kind of miraculously if you think about it, the other arm.>first one arm and then, kind of miraculously if you think about it, the other arm.I think about this a lot
It’s nice to see some geniune DFW discussion here, all I’ve been seeing lately is endless bashing by people who haven’t read him.
>>25207353not that one, the first one. the best chapter in the entire book
The chapter where he talks about how absolutely fucked and desperate you have to be to decide that joining a cult like organization like AA is not only reasonable but your only hope has always stuck with me.
>>25206909I really admire LD Wallace's originality in combining the meme video game guy with the meme book.
>>25207037This was briefly a thing in the 00's, then women felt insecure about not being able to read Infinite Jest so they used it to launch a campaign against the "lit bro." Said lit bros overall wanted to be agreeable so most reprogrammed their thoughts to regard DFW as "good intentioned but ultimately cringe/white" and also "entry level" even though nobody reads him anymore. That's where the "tryhard pseud" association comes from: a Jezebel campaign against men who read big books who haven't been a cultural force for over a decade, because of women. Now people are curious about him again because they realize, consciously or not, that he was the last great white male author. Great in terms of fame that is, I'm a fan but not arguing about the quality here.
>>25207056People don't even appreciate good prose. It's not like they can remove the actual work from the social context of the people who read it.And the entire "performative male" angle is funny to me. Maybe I'm a shut in, but I've never met a person that's read Infinite Jest. I've met people who were reactionary to DFW and were self-proclaimed Bret Easton Ellis fans or liked Pynchon--themselves having no actual literary talent or noticeable discernment of what makes a good book, so apparently they just offshore that skill and the labor to cultivate that skill to the authors themselves--but not a single DFW fan. I'm much more likely to meet people that pretend to read difficult continental philosophy or maybe something like Finnigan's Wake, but never more obscure authors. Nobody pretends to like William Gaddis, for example (you'd need to actual read to be familiar with the name). Even DFW isn't popular enough to compel refutation other than in clinically online circles parroting a meme because (1) people read books less than ever and (2) the publishing industry is too catered to women reading books about gay hockey players slipping their cocks into each other. They don't publish decent fucking fiction.Jesus, at least his sense of voice was good. IJ was good, the Pale King was enjoyable, albeit unfinished, and Brief Interviews was good. He's overall a good author, and it's been the better part of a decade since I read him last.
>>25208125You obviously didn’t go to college. Every second person has heard of DFW there. In my postmodern lit course, we spent an entire lecture talking about meta modernism.
