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>awful prose
>stole ideas from everybody
>never invented his own formula
>was neither celebrated nor respected during the years of his life
>only became celebrated later in his life because someone wanted to profit off his works and peddle his own garbage
>is celebrated so much that people are willingly turning their head from his disgusting bigotry

explain to me the lovecraft phenomena.

CAS is infinitely better.
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>Lovecraft is a good writer
>everything you said is horseshit
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>>25207106
>awful prose
stopped reading there, gain taste pleb
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>>25207106
>disgusting bigotry
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>>25207109
>We expelled the bodies through the double hatches and were alone in the U-29. Klenze seemed very nervous, and drank heavily. It was decided that we remain alive as long as possible, using the large stock of provisions and chemical supply of oxygen, none of which had suffered from the crazy antics of those swine-hound seamen. Our compasses, depth gauges, and other delicate instruments were ruined; so that henceforth our only reckoning would be guesswork, based on our watches, the calendar, and our apparent drift as judged by any objects we might spy through the portholes or from the conning tower. Fortunately we had storage batteries still capable of long use, both for interior lighting and for the searchlight. We often cast a beam around the ship, but saw only dolphins, swimming parallel to our own drifting course. I was scientifically interested in those dolphins; for though the ordinary Delphinus delphis is a cetacean mammal, unable to subsist without air, I watched one of the swimmers closely for two hours, and did not see him alter his submerged condition.

great prose
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>>25207106
IVAN OOZE
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>>25207121
In that story, he was writing as an autistic German submarine captain in the first person, and brilliantly so. Stop being a fucking retard.
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>>25207106
He turned away from being a bigot toward the end of his life, he literally wrote that his chud phase was an ''illness that kept me in seclusion and limited my knowledge of the world''
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>>25207137
Ahhh yess a comically retarded caricature is brilliant.
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>>25207153
>a comically retarded caricature
it's literally just an accurate portrayal of German autism
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>>25207161
Jew spotted
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>J
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>Le tentacles
>Le fishe ppl
>Le "so horrible that it was impossible to describe"
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>>25207196
And?
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>>25207199
>tranime
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>>25207204
reddit is down the hall and to the left
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>>25207235
Redditors love tranime tho
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>>25207121
Were you ever going to articulate why you find that passage poor, or just eat shit like a faggot for us all to see?
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>>25207196
Fucking based honestly.
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>>25207106
>prose hits exactly the right tone for the mood he intended to evoke
>full of original ideas, imitated by every horror writer. People that think he stole from Dunsany or Hodgson haven't read either
>formula???
>had a great circle of friends and admirers who were artists themselves, normies didn't get it as usual
>would have become celebrated any which way because of the mythic potential of his work
>bigotry nowhere to be found in his actual work except maybe horror at red hook
>CAS is the favorite of attention-seeking pseuds, he's flashy but mid, no lasting vision
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>>25207759
>>bigotry nowhere to be found in his actual work except maybe horror at red hook
Herbert West Reanimator? Rats in the Walls?
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>>25207121
How is this bad? It's pretty decent for what it is.
>CAS is infinitely better.
No way Clark Ashton Smith is better than Lovecraft. I'd say CAS is one of the more "crummy" writers in the pulp scene, and Raymond Chandler & Robert E. Howard were the best likewise.
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CAS is the hipster version of lovecraft. Filled to the brim with anachronistic nonsense words to give the story the exact "tone shading" that nobody will ever perceive because nobody outside of language historians knows what the words mean. Like reading fucking discount Jabberwocky. And then you look up what the word means and realize the retard was using it wrong in the first place, like lovecraft and his fucking "gibbous".
So no, Clark Asshole Shit was not infinitely fucking better. He was a second rate hack then and remains one now, lovecraft and howard are better known for a reason.
Which is a shame really, because he did write some good stories when he wasnt going full retard.
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>>25207764
meh, just for niggerman? Why doesn't anyone seethe about Mark Twains "bigotry"?
Don't remember about Herbert West
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>>25207759
>bigotry nowhere to be found in his actual work except maybe horror at red hook

Coils of the Medusa had such a hilarious twist at the end it felt like reading a parody of lovecraft
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>>25207106
CAS's prose was better, and his fantasy cycles were better than the Dream Cycle, but if you're going to sing his praises you have to bear in mind that he liked Lovecraft's work. There's a reason for that. Lovecraft's contemporary horror stories were generally the strongest of the weird tales scene.
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>>25207783
>a parody of lovecraft
it probably was since he ghostwrote it for some woman
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>>25207843
The Dream Cycle is underrated. Most people I hear from say it's vastly inferior to his Cthulhu mythos stories (the fuck's the difference anyways, the Elder Gods are mentioned frequently in the Dream Cycle).
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This is the definitive collection if you want to read the entire Dream Cycle BTW.
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>>25207886
The dream cycle sucks because it’s an inferior mishmash copycat of Dunsany



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