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why are people so resistant towards the idea of a universal metaphysics?
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>>25207915
racism
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>>25207915
Which people? and how do they resist the idea? and what is a "universal metaphysics?"
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>>25207915
Their ego gets invested in their particular school being the ultimate truth, so being told that this is just an approximation of a greater whole or truth can feel to the immature like a personal attack on the very core of their identity, which is the origin of their hatred in response.
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>>25207915
Metaphysics is a pointless endeavour but it doesn't matter how many times it's laid out for plebs they just don't get it
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>>25207924
>Which people?
Hylics
>and how do they resist the idea?
With sophistry
>and what is a "universal metaphysics?"
Read Guenon (pbuh) and you’ll see
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>>25207965
midwit cope
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>>25207970
So: hylics, using sophistry, resist the idea of a universal metaphysics as explained by Guenon. Where did Guenon explain his idea of universal metaphysics? Who are the “hylics?” Are they an organised group? and what kind of sophistry do they use to resist universal metaphysics, and why?
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>>25207965
What is metaphysics and why is it a pointless endeavour?
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>>25207915
>>25207970
Rope around the neck, as tight as it goes.
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>>25208070
> So: hylics, using sophistry, resist the idea of a universal metaphysics as explained by Guenon.
Precisely.

>Where did Guenon explain his idea of universal metaphysics?
Throughout his published books, which are great reading material and are worth owning hard copies of, although you can easily find free PDFs of them online on google or libgen.

The metaphysical core of his work is his so-called ‘Metaphysics trilogy’ meant to be read in order
1) Man & His Becoming According to the Vedanta
2) The Symbolism of the Cross
3) The Multiple States of the Being

If you are serious about reading through those, it’s best to start with his first book “Introduction to the Study of the Hindu Doctrines” where he systematically defines the terms and concepts he uses in later groups. Throughout his other books though there is other material supporting his central thesis such as his books on symbolism convincingly cite a universal metaphysics reflected throughout various symbolisms.

Guenon is not the only exponent of a universal metaphysics, he is just perhaps the most influential and most widely respected. Guenon is really the only author in metaphysics/religion where even today you can easily find a bevy of people from disparate religions in disparate countries who still nonetheless identify as Guenonians who subscribe to his worldview while remaining Christian, Muslim, Hindus etc. If you go on X roughly half or more of the posts about him are not in English, a good amount of the discussion about him is in Arabic and Turkish.

>Who are the “hylics?”
Technically its a term for gnosticism that refers to the lowest spiritual grade or humans who have basically zero aptitude for spiritual matters, but its been repurposed as an amusing generic pejorative for anyone who says foolish things or advocates foolish beliefs about religion/metaphysics even if strictly speaking they may be capable of some spiritual insight and thus perhaps not a literal hylic but the next grade up.

>Are they an organised group?
No, although there may be small independent cells or friend groups organized around similar interests

>and what kind of sophistry do they use to resist universal metaphysics,
False equivalencies, strawmen, red herrings, non-sequiturs, ad hominems, the usual bag of tricks.

>and why?
The motives are different for each person. Some major categories of people who oppose Guenonian Traditionalism or similar Universal Metaphysics include: committed materialists, Neitzcheans, and people who are attached to dogmatically viewing one religion as true and attacking everything else (on /lit/ you see this most often with Christians and Buddhists who repeat the same sort of behaviors about this)
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>>25208112
>t. sophist
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>>25208118
I’m an advanced level aspirant with multiple confirmed siddhis

Attaining these miraculous digits praising Guenon (pbuh) was done by myself unintentionally as a spontaneous manifestation of my high level of attainment.

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/20222071#p20222222
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>>25207970
guenon isn't even a good representative of universal metaphysics. yes for metaphysical traditions, but not metaphysics itself. better to read those in the OP
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>Metaphysics
schizo shit
pure substanceless speculation
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>>25208420
something a hylic would say



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