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What's some other depressive lit apart from Dostoevsky work?
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>>25212207
The sorrows of young werther. It’s better than any dosto novel too
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>>25212207
Thomas Hardy's novels and poetry.
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georg trakl
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>>25212207
>depressing as in sad things happen, but the overall outlook is optimistic
Iliad
Aeneid
>philosophically depressing satires (outwardly comic)
Confidence-Man: His Masquerade
Gravity's Rainbow
>doom & gloom
Tartar Steppe
Metamorphoses
Juvenal's Satires
Doctor Faustus (Mann)

GR made me feel like absolute shit, I'd never had a book affect me this badly before. But Tartar Steppe is probably the closest in spirit to Stoner, and it's also way easier than GR/Confidence-Man/Doctor Faustus
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>>25212225
Yeah, it’s interesting just how depressing and anxiety inducing GR actually is, when I read it to the first time I thought I was getting into silly reddit humor but in the style of Ulysses, it’s actually its own thing and sure, it has some humour I don’t find funny, and satire I don’t care for, but it’s pretty amazing for everything else.
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>>25212252
V's Herero section also got me pretty bad, but the rest of the book doesn't have the same emotional intensity so I didn't mention it.
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>>25212207
Butchers Crossing by the same author is great too.
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Anyone who claims dosto is depressing doesn't read dosto. He's incredibly life affirming.
That being said, Journey to the End of the Night
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>>25212334
The only book of his that I've read is The Idiot which did not seem terribly "life affirming" (hate this term).
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>>25212334
>>25212336
>life affirming
It usually means a book is really depressing or in some way pessimistic but twists it with a “but that’s okay!” At the end.
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>>25212339
I think The Idiot was the opposite of that.
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>>25212207
If you think Stoner and Dostoevsky are depressing you got a long way to go
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>>25212343
Crime and Punishment is probably a good example for what >>25212334 is saying.
>>25212354
Well… go on then, hit OP with some pure suicidecore.
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>>25212354
Go ahead and post lonely kino
Man who Sleeps was a snoozefest to go through
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>>25212360
Damn I'd love some suicidecore right about now
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>>25212379
Was it really? It's been on my list for a while.
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>>25212207
I WANNA FEEL LIKE I FEEL WHEN IM ASLEEP

Try The Elementary Particles by Houellebecq
Hubert Shelby Jr’s stuff (Last Exit to Brooklyn, Requiem for a Dream)
Johnny Got His Gun
Celine as somebody has already mentioned
Clarissa (it’s pretty long though)
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Hard Rain Falling
Lonesome Dove
The Crossing (Cormac one not the Howard Fast one)
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Skylark
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My diary desu
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>>25212207
It's more of a short story, but George Orwell's "A Hanging". Other great thought-provoking, depressing stories: Kafka's "In the penal colony" and "The Judgement"
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Me too OP
>Kill Edith
>Behead Edith
>Curb stomp Edith into the pavement
>Roundhouse kick Edith into the sun
>disembowel Edith
Also this Warwick Davis pasta for Lomax.
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>>25212215
based
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Ligotti is pretty depressing.
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>>25212334
personally i don't think he's nearly as life affirming as joyce or tolstoy but ultimately i agree, young bucks new to reading like to shill him as some ebin blackpiller because that's the only signifier they have that is associated with maturity and wisdom.
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>>25217011
he's amateur hour compared to cioran, whom he apes constantly in his non-fiction
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>>25212334
IMO for Dosto, the overall message is life-affirming and not nihilistic, but the journey is obviously very dark. I can see how you would come away from his novels depressed if you identify with some of his darker characters like Ippolit, Kirillov, Ivan, Smerdyakov, or dare I say, Stavrogin.
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>>25218168
Thoughbeit you're right, but his message is always weak compared to his narrative. People knew dosto for his pessimistic and nihilistic theme even if he opposed it
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Anyone know of any novels which fit the atmosphjere of Giles Corey? Preferably without the breakup whining and pathetic self-pity
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>>25212207
Jim thompson, read any books written by him. Its not depressive if you're stuck with the first person narrative and get yourself trapped by it, but once you look at the entire narrative from a bird eye or drone or whatever high view standpoint then you realize that its all hopeless



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