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>Everyone tells Rico that it's not worth it to enlist
>The book constantly showcases how shitty it is to be a soldier
>Constant abuse of power in the ranks throughout the novel
>Rico's dad is proven right in his distrust for the government once he gets drafted
>His teacher is seen by almost everyone as a rambling old man
Why exactly do people call this book fascist and/or apologetic towards militarism? Do they just not see that the main character was wrong in almost everything he believed in at the start of the novel?
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Why is Rico a brown Filipino?
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>>25216774
Because fascists unironically love it for that reason, and look down on people who don't want to pointlessly suffer just for aura.

Machismo is Masochism.
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>>25217147
Bitch made. You might as well be asking why do people climb mountains? It's hard and dangerous and there is nothing tangibly obtained in doing so? Why? Because it's there.

This is why guys from Nietzsche to Junger get so much reeeing retards on these boards. Because they speak about action and struggle being the source of meaning and growth. The true source of knowledge, not some limp dicked rationalizing retard using logic as if he's touching upon something objective just by thinking about it. It's forged in the trenches.

tl;dr drink water and lift weights.
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>>25216774
>Why exactly do people call this book fascist and/or apologetic towards militarism? Do they just not see that the main character was wrong in almost everything he believed in at the start of the novel?
Because they've internalised the contemporary catechism that writing about something is endorsing it.
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>>25217185
Case in point. The motto of all militarist movements is "harder, daddy!!!".
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>>25217039
Revealing that shit on the very last page? It was obviously to troll the racists.

>"Oh, by the way! The main character has been brown the whole time LOOOOOOL"

I did get kinda triggered, to be honest.
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>>25216774
>Constant abuse of power in the ranks throughout the novel
Name a single example. If anything ST characters are too squeaky clean compared to the real military
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>>25217283
Does it say hes brown or just filipino?
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>>25217411
Pretty sure it mentions speaking tagalog much earlier in the book. Op is just trolling.
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>>25217411
He's Filipino on his father's side and probably also on his mother's side though movie watchers assume she's white because of Buenos Aires. In the book, shes only vacationing in Buenos Aires and it's never actually stated where Johnny and his family live
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>>25217423
>>25217443
I just wonder if hes from the Philippines like Rudyard Kipling is from India. But if he speaks tagalog it sounds like hes ethnic
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>>25217449
He mentions that he speaks it at home, so probably, and, oh yeah, his first name is fucking Juan.

I can't remember if he is an Argentinian born or a transplant. Almost all of the ops post is lies. Except for the first line, anyway. All the civvies and some of the military tell him not to sign up. The book is mostly a tract of Heinlein's views on the military and politics. No cuckstuff either, unlike old Lazarus Long.
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>>25217239
You're too weak to get it. Stick with books you nerd.
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>>25217348
Been a while since I read it but off the top of my head there's the training officer singles out a recruit and treats him more harshly than everyone else at bootcamp, he brings this up to some higher up and they immediately dismiss the abuse and force him to leave, abandoning his citizenship
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>>25217553
Are you talking about the ant hill thing? I think it's supposed to be up to interpretation if zim was being too harsh or not. Plus he hit the commanding officer on top of moving when ordered not to.
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>they could have given the 1959 Hugo to Kurt Vonnegut's The Sirens of Titan
>instead they gave it to the book about space soldiers killing giant insects
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>>25217449
Nah, it's pretty unambiguous in the book. He's brown
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>>25217453
>Heinlein's views
heinlein was a meme spouting faggot. he says ron paul /b/ and gets published because he has women in the military and the pc isnt american. basically if nick fuentes decided to write the great american novel
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>>25217785
He also wanted to have children because he had an incest fetish. Fortunately, he was sterile and wasn't interested in adoption.
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>>25217039
>>25217283
it's proto-boomer race blindness propaganda
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>>25217147
The book has this weird fascination with mathematics and intellectualism being connected to war, I am glad schools dropped their standards, it's not like an engineer needs that shit.
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>>25217198
>writing about something is endorsing it
Heinlein had told in a letter that now that he had broken up with John W. Campbell he'd become more and more preachy in his books.
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>>25216774
Heinlein was a fan of 'The Forever War'. People really don't know what they are talking about.
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>>25216774
The book isn't without nuance, but it clearly isn't anti-military. Its just that the military is made up of people with the accompanying flaws. The system depicted is very tough on it's own but you see it actually punishing the worst people.

Rico's dad is proven absolutely wrong and he ends up joining the military.

>>25217039
It stresses the society in the book moved past racism and is very inclusive. It's a globohomo utopia really, if you don't love dangerous criminals and monster hives.

>>25217553
Pushing the meek out of the military is good for everyone, including themselves.
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Heinlein had a contract with Scribner's for a series of Juvenile/Young Adult books but Starship Troopers was so different from the previous 12 that the appalled editors refused to publish the thing. The book proved quite popular when Putnam published it but a primary criticism was that it read like recruitment propaganda.



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