Ideally, how attractive should an author be if they want to get published?
>>25219578>putting all your books facing outward because you dont have enough books to fill up even one shelflol
hipsters do this thing where they accentuate how shitty they look ironically but it backfires and just accentuates how ugly they are for real
>>25219585hipster is just code word for millenialyou're all the same
>>25219578Those comments aren’t real by the way though he does have a very punchable face
>>25219587>>25219585Hipster is a specific subculture of the 2010s. Using it in a generalized form just outs you as oldfarts yourself. Minimum 30 years old, maybe 40. 2016 was a decade ago.
>>25219578He'd literally be fine if he wasn't wearing a stupid shirt and showing off his receding hairline.
>>25219619Hipster was already out of fashion by 2016
>>25219578being an author is literally the job where you can look like whatever because your job is to write words, unlike say actors or musicians who require stage presence
>>25219647Readers still prefer a type for the books they read. You want Knausgard to write introspective autofiction and hollaback to write about muzzies and sexclubs. Try switching those faces around and see how appealing their work sounds then.
>>25219662>introspective autofiction Yawn
>>25219667Do you realize how wealthy and famous Knausgaard is by writing this?Knausgaard is the king of chads, and chances are any middle class woman you've read has either been made wet because of him, or would be made wet because of him. That's no cap. My French flatmate once told me that she literally touched herself and orgasmed hard when she read Knausgaard. She would end up literally lying there with her legs bend and up in the air, gaping and wet, bright red all around her crotch area, glistening down there, slick, steaming almost, her mouth hanging open, eyelids heavy, hair a mess, literally just jabbing her joined fingers at her pussy by the end of a reading session. She wore herself out just reading about him going to the supermarket, or feeling awkward during a date, or making coffee with his wife or whatever. She worshipped the guy, sent him emails and everything. Think she flew to Berlin or some shit to attend a talk he did one time. It wasn't only the sexual scenes either. She just loved his writing and was obsessed by him as a tall, white, hunky, sullen, tortured soul. She had read everything he wrote, just loved the guy. She didn't even have any IRL bfs as far as I could tell; she was saving herself for him. I asked her one time, would she be as obessed as she was about him if he was under six feet tall. Her reply? She would move on immediately to another author.
>>25219680This is the gayest thing I've read today. If this isn't fiction then you should embarrassed about placing so much weight on a foids reactions.
getting published isn't that hard. if a group of 10 can all get published together then it's logically not that hard.
>>25219699let's see your book then, smugfuck.
>>25219701not the point i'm trying to make. if a group of 10 related people can all get published at the same time you're gonna have a hard fucking time finding some basic identity datum that qualifies you for getting published.
>>25219578Being an author isn't the type of job where you don't need to be acttractive because you don't need to show your face? I don't understand how mid-to-ugly guys like him keep doing face reveals
>>25219578test
>>25219578I look 10 times worse and yet people will say all I need is confidence.The guy just looks a bit dorky, not even really ugly.
>>25219578>sam o'nellawhat phenotype is this
>>25219659looks more like ken ham
>>25219578Who would go on the internet and cherry pick comments off a youtube video like that?https://youtu.be/owMQZX862MsDo you know how long I had to scroll to find even one of the comments you posted?
>>25219762Moralfags downvote them.
>>25219762the comments in op's pic aren't wrong, though
>>25219578Most authors write under a pen name and don't reveal their face until they are already famous.
>>25220006It's down to his weird wide neck t-shirt and rigid posture. put him in a nice shirt and give him a smile and he looks perfectly normal imo
>>25219743You think anyone is going to publish your book without meeting you?
>>25220022He also just needs a better camera and lighting
>>25220022I honestly imagined him to be much uglier, like a fat neckbeard or like a starving hikki. He's just a normalfag with his eyes slightly too far spart.
Most people are just straight up ugly. Beautiful people are very rare in this world. Hideous people are far more common.
>>25219619>Hipster is a specific subculture of the 2010sholy shit
>>25220354he's got an unattractive wide-nostriled nose
>>25219637Yes, hipsters were like a 2002 to 2009 thing with scenesters preceding them.
>>25220529those kind of ppl still exist tho, they have a bunch of arsty tattoos and small tasteful piercings and have to tell u they live in brooklyn and it's like so when did u move here from wisconsin?
>>25219578The guy wouldn't be that ugly if he shaved his beard buzzed his head, went to the gym and dropped to like 12-15% bodyfat.
>>25220535He would still be ugly, he has no defined features whatsoever.
>>25219578they thought a guy with a reddity ass profile pic like that was going to be hot? lmao
Threads like this always remind me of how many actual catty faggots we have on this board. Liberal arts college. Not even once.
>>25220539I was thinking the same. I wonder what the average age of a lit poster is. I assumed 4chan essentially died and most of us were oldfags in our 30s and 40s by now. The idea of 40 year old men following and commenting on 20-something internet personalities sickens me. I don't know why I come to this forsaken place.See ya tomorrow.
>>25220539Did you just blow in from reddit town?
this reminds me of the 6th grade when the teacher asked how our parents vote and one of the class clowns shouted hot MY MOM VOTES FOR THE HOTTEST ONE which made all the girls laugh and say trvke
>>25220006Maybe, but no one actually cares. Nobody imagines an author or a youtuber as a handsome man.
>>25220541/lit/ is a majority zoomer board. /lit/ attracts college age pseuds like flies to shit.
>>25220545dude 4chan is all old millenials
>>25220542I use mainchan
>>25220539Go back.
Women don't watch sam and also all of those comments other than "chopped O'Nella" are obviously bots. "Chopped O'Nella" may also be a bot.
>>25220354>just a normalfagYeah, but those are repulsive too.
>>25220023The publishers maybe would want to see your face, but I think they would probably be straight men so they wouldn't care. I was refering to the public, the people reading your book
>>25219587Yeah, millennials are painfully ugly, inside and out. Your point?
>>25220541>Being old is ackshually le based!!11Millennials have to be the generation that aged the worst. I don't see Gen X or Boomers being this mentally buck broken after getting old...
>>25222005Zoomers hop on HRT just to not go completely bald at 20.
>>25222005What are you talking about zoomers are by far the most insecure about aging. They think your life is over and you qualify as an old man at 25. A 25 year old dating a 20 year old is pedophilia to them. Your post makes zero sense. I know 28 year old women going around calling themselves grandma completely sincerely. And every other post on this website is a 26 year old who wants to kill himself because he isn't making six figures and doesn't own a house.
>>25219619Not to mention how self conscious and aesthetics obsessed gen z is, but enough about that.
>>25219578Why would you wear a shirt like thatWhy would you have this lazy incel haircut instead of a buzzcut or full shaveWhy....
Absolutely hideous looking creature. Wish these eceleb retards would all suck start a shotgun
>>25222140lol, the irony is that I wasn't even complaining about being old, only pointing out that older men being an audience to youtube zoomerslop is pathetic... zoomers are extremely sensitive to aging.
I wonder how many books all this clever marketing is selling.
>>25221663I wonder what it's like to be good looking, it must be like living in a different world.
I can't fathom what it's like to take the judgements of women seriously, as being more than "optional bonuses" when they go well for you while being utterly meaningless when they don't. There are so many men for whom women's approval is a deep need, like the second lowest layer of Maslow's hierarchy of needs only second to basic food and shelter, but this makes no sense to me. One of the first things I realized after puberty is that women are totally unreliable narrators of what they want or appreciate, even to themselves, and also that they are extremely cruel about wielding this mutability against any suitor stupid enough to ask them outright "tell me what you want from me." This doesn't mean you shouldn't try to model it and get the basics down. Women seem reliably to dislike when you stink (although I've seen them bend even that rule plenty of times). They seem to like when you conform to basic grooming standards and so forth. But if you spend 9 years trying to figure out the right way to part your hair or pleat your collar or whatever, only to have women yank the football away regardless, you should realize it's a fool's errand. Most of all I can't understand men who are emotionally hurt by women's cruelty. It's like being upset that a dog bit you. Some dogs bite. Some don't. There are a few things you can do to minimize the chance of dog bites, but going around the wilderness trying to pet random dogs and other canids in the hopes of not being bit is foolish. Or take cats for example. When I go to a friend's house for the first time and I try to coax the cat over to let me pet it, I may have success, I may not, the cat may regard me with studied indifference, but I don't get downright sad if the cat doesn't like me. I just think "well, I guess it's not that kind of cat." Like I said, you can do the bare minimum sanity checks: "Am I blanketed in some cat-repellant stench today? Did I scream 'COME HERE, CAT!!' at the cat in a way that obviously startled him?" Or conversely, when you seem to have a winning streak of instant cat friendships, you can make note of it and try to correlate it: "Apparently cats like me when I've just made tuna salad with my bare fingers. I should remember this, if I ever really want to touch a cat." But there is no sadness in any of this. One of the greatest paradoxes in life is that you probably have to have some success with women to conclude that success with women is as meaningless as failure with women. Men who have never been the recipient of a woman's infatuation (and just as importantly, its collapse) are liable to all kinds of delusions like "I must be worthless because frivolous Instagram floozies don't approve of me, with the same level of feeling I have when I 'disapprove' of a porn actress when I choose another porn actress over her when selecting a porn video to masturbate to (except with additional random cruelty, as I don't feel the need to alert the porn actress personally that she is ugly)."
>>25219659>Sorry ladies this guy has a botched circumcisionSelf-deprecation really is only funny if you're at least a six. Otherwise women read it (correctly) as pathetic lampshading.
>>25222297It is like having super powers. People think you are more talented and capable than others just because you look good. It’s kind of amazing. Just look at all these girls lose their confidence and interest in this guy at one glance. Being ugly is the worst sin imaginable and people get treated quite badly for it.
>>25222298i read the first line obviously not the rest, this is a guy who looks like shit to guys as well, he's small ugly and a nonathlete, looks like a nobody
>>25222313But look how much you've internalized that looking like shit is more than an incidental fact about a person. Most people look like shit, or at least boring and ordinary. Most people are old, bald, poorly dressed because they are aiming a functionality due to their work or convenience that day. It's always nice to see an especially attractive person, but it's not that big a deal. It's like seeing a tree whose flowers are in full bloom at just the right time. It's nice. But not every tree needs to be forced violently into that state at all times, and most trees don't bloom at all but are beautiful for other reasons. Baldness is a good example. Baldness is normal. Most men wouldn't notice baldness at all if women hadn't trained them like pets and forced them to internalize women's beauty standards. Women are able to have these standards for a reason: They can't produce or understand anything like Caesar, so they look at Caesar and say "But he's bald though." A man looks at Caesar and sees a lot more than that. Not really talking to you of course, but to anyone who can read and who might have come to your conclusion for a reason other than retardation.
>>25222351Of course it is. It's like I said "Eating a thousand oranges is stupid, but eating some oranges is okay" and you replied "Dude look what you're defending, with zero citrus intake you will get scurvy." I hope I receive at least one reply from someone who doesn't experience primal chimp fear at seeing a paragraph, and immediately collapse it into the nearest sentence-shaped simple point vaguely related to it.
>>25222337Totally wrong. Even if you don't possess innate physical beauty, having striking, distinctive features, or unusual aesthetic preferences which cause you to possess them are the most elementary means by which the elect are distinguished from the normalfag herd. If you look and dress like shit and have no distinguishing qualities other than a retarded, unfunny t-shirt, bad skin, and a grating, nasally voice, chances are that says an awful lot about your character. Or lack thereof.This guy would be better off being genuinely hideous like Houllebecq than whatever the fuck he was trying to pull off in op's picAnd just fyi Caesar seethed about his hairline and did what he could to conceal it
>>25222351He has very slight acne, but he doesn't look unhygienic. No part of his body or clothes is dirty in any way and his hair isn't messy either.
>>25222361Of course, but what you're saying was encompassed in both of my posts.>>25222365I didn't read your post because you are stupid and writing from your phone, I'm sorry. One of those would be okay, but not both in tandem.
>>25222378>what you're saying was encompassed in both of my posts.You said that looking like shit is an "incidental fact". I am saying that it's an outward reflection of their character. You're right that there's nothing wrong with being dull and average, yes most people are.But I don't pay attention to most people and neither should you. Physiognomy and style supply helpful, albeit fallible, heuristic tools whereby different types can be distinguished without having to waste time assessing them on an individual level.
Only beautiful people can create beautiful art. Aesthetics are the single most important trait in this world. If I was king, all of the dysgenic would be put up against the wall.
>>25222389Incidental doesn't mean "nonexistent." Like I said, of course it would be nice if everyone were maxing out their potential to look their best, but it's not reasonable to expect, especially when we start to get into things like baldness or height which are beyond their reasonable control. People shouldn't be made to feel like being bald or short is more than an incidental fact about themselves. Caesar was Caesar regardless of whether he was bald, to men. To women, he's just a bald guy who could be hairier. The point isn't to destroy all minor aesthetic preferences but to maintain a hierarchy of priorities in life. Women have retarded priorities, which is fine since they're retarded and can't be helped. My original point was simply that caring as much about whether you or another man is bald as a woman cares about it is silly, and the silliest thing of all is asking a woman "How could I be better for you?" because they'll demand that you be a shining golden god and then still fuck a stinky drug dealer with leprosy anyway because he radiated an intangible aura that reminded her of her abusive dad. The twitterification of 4chan is a tragedy.>Person 1: As a big fan of cosmic horror, I wonder if Ligotti's interpretation of it isn't too narrow. I appreciate Ligotti for what he is, but I think there's a lot more to cosmic horror than the psychological-existential dimension he focuses on. >Person 2: SO YOU'RE SAYING COSMIC HORROR IS BAD? DEFEND THAT POINT, NOT THE ONE YOU MADE. What does Person 1 do? Restate the point he made? If Person 2 was too retarded to see it the first time, what use will that be?
>>25222408Didn't read lol
>>25222411We know, since you can't think. There's still time to start. Social media posts aren't ideal though. Try a book.
>>25222413lol didn't read
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>>25219578the only thing you need to get published in amerika today is to be a retard who has nothing to say
>>25219585that's because they don't go far enough. You're supposed to monster max
>>25222408You are completely missing my point. I don't care how many women want a guy to fuck them, I care whether a man presents himself such that I ought to take time out of my day to listen to what he has to say. Beauty and aesthetics have both a moral value in themselves, as well as signalling to the world that their bearer is more likely to be in possession of a superior mind.If traits like height are relatively immutable, then they must be in some way compensated for in order to maintain that aura. E.g. Mishima was 5'4 and pathetically weak, was aware of his shortcomings, and so went out of his way to birth within himself the most unimpeachable sense of aesthetics and taste of the 20th century. What he didn't do was put on a dumb t-shirt and attempt to celebrate mediocrity as some kind of irony poisoned virtue.
>>25222378>One of those would be okay, but not both in tandem.I think you're a funny guy with good points thanks for the insights.
>>25219578ugly people deserve it lol
>>25220022extremely gay you used AI to do this.
>>25222666Would it have been less gay if he'd spent an hour in photoshop contouring his shoulders and forearms to match his new fit?
>>25222666as apposed to OP sounding the depths of this faggots YouTube comments to make a mean girl collage lol who cares
>>25222298>I can’t fathom what it’s like to take the judgements of women seriously… [paragraphs of analysis about what women want and how they think]Whatever you say, anon
>>25222473Thank you friend.>>25222761Thank you also for the pain of reading your malformed gotcha post. May I request a well-formed gotcha post
>>25222444NTA. I think it's less that he's missing your point and more that you cited him arguing a different point than the one he was making
>>25222444You can't maintain aura as a manlet. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you will just be a well dressed manlet.
ideally, as grotesque and inhuman as possible
>>25219585depends, I lived the mid/late 00s hipster life and got laid often. Classic tall guy with shaggy hair and stains on my shirt, barely cared about my appearance, literal drug addict etcI think the key is to actually be cool and not wear a 4xl shirt about your dick is deformed but idk
>>25223150>tall guyThis did all the heavy lifting for you. It wasn't your clever engaging personality lad.
>>25223150indie rock hipster dudes love those low cut shirts tho, u just need a chest tattoo for it to show off, that's where that guy blew it
So uh, how's his book?
>>25223231Shut the fuck up.
>>25219578We already discussed this. The unflattering shirt is 90% the problem with here. If he wore some collared shirt, he would be passable ugly.
>>25223169def did a lot of it. Although I will say I started off in a place that could have easily led me down the incel path, it wasn't until I just decided to pretend to be confident that my luck changed. I won't deny my luck there though>>25223276didn't someone here figure out that all those comments were fake too
Imagine if George R.R. Martin had been discouraged by jellobrained sluts on BookTube or whatever the fuck, and never wrote Game of Thrones. Think of all the tits we wouldn't have seen.Think about that you racists.
>>25224212Game of Thrones died more than 10 years ago. Let it go.
