how did he get away with the biggest self insert in the history?
By being a hell of a poet
>>25224503Because part of the poem is about how, while he is a great scholar and a greater poet, all of his intellect and learning and skill is not enough to mean anything without faith and virtue. It's also a very personal story to him, as he makes it clear it's an allegory about a personal confrontation he had with some of his failings, and his experience of being led back to God, at least partially by poets such as Virgil.While some sections of Inferno may come across as arrogant when removed from their original context, Purgatorio and Paradiso make it clear that Dante isn't just portraying himself as the chad and his opponents as the soijak, as that one ridiculous meme claims.
>>25224503It's a memoir. It all really happened
>>25224557FYI Dante hated and mocked people who took the book at face value and believed he really travelled through hell, purgatory and paradise. Yes, there were those people back then. He even said that "Only someone as stupid as women from (some specific Italian city state he hated, can't remember which) believes that"
>>25224567FYI Dante understood the difference between univocal predication, metaphor, and analogia proportionalitatis
By making it a masterpiece, people were forced to ignore the fanfic part lmao.
he's a sexhaving normalfag#notmyselfinsert
>tfw plebs try to understand genius
>>25225502Dali wasn’t a misunderstood genius. He was a grifter and an attention whore at heart who felt that his skills as a painter gave him license to act like an asshole in public. He’s still a better painter than Picasso, though.
>>25224503Self-inserts work when the author is deconstructing himself or is depicting his internal turmoils and problems, or rather his flaws. But there's usually two problems that prevent this from being common:1.) Most authors who would use this method are usually too scared of how they may be perceived in doing so (mostly due to the stereotype/reputation around self-inserts), therefore they usually create an allegorical character to represent themselves.2.) The vast majority of authors that use self-inserts have a tendency to make it an arrogant power fantasy, which ends up feeding into problem one, as authors who have the talent and self-awareness to depict themselves as flawed human beings will avoid doing so because of the reputation of self-inserts. Back then problem 2 wasn't as common, so Dante got away with it quite easily because as >>25224535 said, the Divine Comedy is very introspective. But if Dante lived and wrote the Divine Comedy today, he'd probably resort to making an allegorical character because of the stereotype around self-inserts. Hell the sheer fact Divine Comedy is referred to as "the first self-insert fanfic" with a look of disdain by people who never read it or never want to read it, tends to be self-explanatory about why self-inserts are rarely done right in fiction, good authors are too scared to use it because too many bad authors have used it and as a result it scares away the reader.
>>25224503Am I fag for not wanting to read this until I learn Italian because of my extremely high expectations for it?
>>25224535>while he is a great scholar and a greater poet, all of his intellect and learning and skill is not enough to mean anything without faith and virtue.You can see this emphasized on the micro level episodically just as on the broader macro thematic level.One instance I remember is when his and Virgil’s path was blocked at the gates of the city of Dis in the fifth circle. I think it was by the fallen angels. There, Virgil, who was guiding him, became shaken and incapable of pressing forward by himself. Virgil, being the personification of pagan reason and human wisdom, while it can lead you toward virtue, can take you only so far without the grace of God. And indeed, it was by divine intervention that their path was opened, when an angel was sent from Heaven to open the gates.
It's always been weird to me that /lit/ fancies itself connoisseurs of the classics, but then seems to hate Dante. Maybe it's the need to be contrarian even within a contrarian position.These threads aren't awful though because occasionally Dante Anon drops by with some erudite and informative explanation on why Dante haters are idiots.
>>25227544This thread is made every two weeks.
