H.G. Wells>I have come to ask you what you are doing to change the world. Stalin>Not so very much.Wells>I wander around the world as a common man and, as a common man, observe what is going on around me.Stalin>Important public men like yourself are not "common men". Of course, history alone can show how important this or that public man has been; at all events, you do not look at the world as a "common man."https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1934/07/23.htm
well that thread went over like a lead balloon
>>25228954Bet if i dropped a lead balloon on your head you wouldnt see it coming. Very useful. Checkmate redditor!!
>>25226811This reads like a debate more than an interview and Stalin frankly destroyed Wells. Authentic soviet communism versus bourgeois socialism.
>>25228954A Marxist website in the OP is unlikely to draw the crowds.
>>25226811Stalin mogged. Wells was jester as fuck
>>25229471The New Statesman article is behind a paywall>But I want to read it for freeWell that's what a communist website is for
>>25229488Clozzy!
>>25230466
Good conversation. It's interesting to sometimes reading a back and forth like this between two individuals from the past. You get the impression that each person's words hold weight, that they are expressing something basically sincere, regardless of their particularly beliefs, and that their worldviews, such as they are, are the result of either their own intellectual journey or are a more or less organic outgrowth of certain ethnic, national, or class characteristics, that they're "real" and aren't playing a character. Not that there isn't any posturing. You see some of that here, particularly from Wells, and there's always been that, but today, if you were reading a similar discussion between, say, Hasan Piker and Xi Jinping, there would be nothing like that. Nothing "real" that you could tether yourself to. You would maybe get that from Xi (although China may as well be a different planet), but not from Hasan. You would not at all get the impression that these individuals hold radically, diametrically opposed worldviews and from two radically different cultures and societies. You would assume based on Hasan's statements that he was a sort of acolyte of Xi who basically approves of his policies. You would not at all be able to pick up, at least from reading the text, that Hasan is basically just a Communist for the sake of pussy and clout, that he is a leftist altogether for this reason, that he really doesn't have any politics outside of what is socially advantageous to him, that his far-left politics are largely a product of social media and also a particular milieu in which liberals were so negatively polarized by Trump that more radical ideas had an attraction, albeit only superficially, that neither he nor any of these people has any stake in the outcome of any of this, and that he is simply praising Xi as an in-group signal to what is essentially an online social club of upper middle class college educated professionals who are as divorced from Marxist-Leninism as wignats and anime Nazis are from fascism, and as sincere.
>>25230485yooooo that was fucking fire lmao i just wish 4chan was updated to cutting edge tech like being able to play audio
>>25230647It can on the gif board lil brobro
>>25230648they have gifs with sound now? hitech
>>25230648oh u know what would be sick if they could like fit the video into your browser window
>>25226811The clueless cuckhold Fabian was completely outclassed and blind to what Stalin was laying down in their interviews, to the extent that the British hand in nuclear proliferation to Moscow (Karl Fuchs & co.) becomes that much more insipid and cowardly. RIP Lloyd's of London in this Schroedinger's Blockade affair, KWAB.
>>25226811I liked The Time Machine as a kid, it was my favorite book. But that being said I'm iffy on Wells' actual beliefs.
>>25230584What about people that hold political beliefs meant to empower a group of men denied access to said pussy?
>>25230951War of the Worlds is kino as well. The War in the Air and The World Set Free are also good.
>>25230584>You get the impression ... that they're "real" and aren't playing a character. Eh, sort of. Stalin was testing him a bit there. Like Stalin says oh I'm not doing anything I'm just some normie who happens to be in the Kremlin, what about you, and Wells is like I'm just some normie as well, and then Stalin says you are not a normie. He was playing a psychological game with Wells and seeing how he would react.Stalin was a short (around 5'4"), Mario-looking guy who was also very affable and matter-of-fact, controlled, and understated in his conversational style, with an ironic and dark sense of humor, and he had a way of reducing tension but also creating tension with ambiguity. Hanging out with Stalin was highly weird and freaky event since he was enormously powerful on a level that is extremely rare in human history, and he was not physically imposing at all and didn't bluster or really act like people expected. Read "Conversations With Stalin" by Milovan Djilas. His teeth were also pretty blackish (stained) and he had a pockmarked face but that doesn't usually show up in the images because they airbrushed the photos. The rest of your post is sharp and I agree.
>>25231033Stalin is rejecting great man theory and the idea of individuals single-handedly changing society because he sees such change as being done by class and society, in accordance with Marxism. He also is saying your position in society, your relationship to society, will drastically influence how you see it, in accordance with Marxism
>>25230951Wells was a pure idealist through and through, which is what made his books so good, but his political beliefs so bad. In fiction an ideal world can be real, but in reality it cannot, but Wells was too blind to see this, which is why you have interviews like this where he earnestly believes Stalin as an affable, good-natured fellow who really might bring about the Utopia that Wells had dreamed of for so long.
>>25226811>But what will this "socialism" be? At best, bridling to some extent, the most unbridled of individual representatives of capitalist profit, some increase in the application of the principle of regulation in national economy. That is all very well. But as soon as Roosevelt, or any other captain in the contemporary bourgeois world, proceeds to undertake something serious against the foundation of capitalism, he will inevitably suffer utter defeatDamn he correctly predicted the complete neoliberal dismantling of the American state half a century in advance
>>25229521>paywallArchive, newfag.
>>25230647It's disabled because it's too easy to troll with.
>>25226811
>>25231226Replace it with a MAGA hat and the second image with Trump
>>25231241Stalin would be MAGA if he was alive so that would be redundant
>>25231248Unc is crashing out
>>25231248He definately would be in the sense MAGA is crashing America, his major rival
>>25231450He would be MAGA in the sense that he was protectionist, pedophilic, hated homosexuality despite having a BLACKED fetish, and a Zionist
>>25231452The USSR consistently sided with the Arabs in conflicts against Israel snd denied Jews dual cirizenship
