Are there any romantic books that DON'T fall into this cliché?
>>25226958lmao those are not “men”, they are faggots
>>25226958They did try to market some harlequin rapist chad stories (from the male perspective with lots of big tits jiggling) to a male audience but they flopped hard. In terms of what sells (and romance for men already sells little) this is accurate.
>>25226958Yes.
>>25227016>harlequin rapist chad stories (from the male perspective with lots of big tits jiggling)You have my attention
>im such le sensitive young man This is becoming the zoomer equivalent of basedboys who say they just want pizza cuddles on their tinder profiles.
What a faggot fucking thread
Kill yourself OP
>>25226958How many womens romance books have you read?
I want incel threads banned.
That is what I liked about Jane Austen, a civilized woman's perspective on romance.>>25227003>>25227092>>25227108I wish you didn't post on this website.
>>25227016>market some harlequin rapist chad stories (from the male perspective with lots of big tits jiggling) to a male audiencewhat happens when jews get high on their own supply. probably only jews read them
>>25226958>meanwhile, the REAL men's romance genre
>>25227413I think you meant BOYS anon. MEN don't engage with cartoons OR cuckoldry.
>>25227373As a sex-haver I enjoy incel threads because I want mass contempt for contemporary aesthetic standards to spread as far as possible.
>>25227016Did they make it cuckoldry? NTR sells a lot. Men just don't get off to fucking a woman if they aren't certain there is another man somewhere getting humiliated and cucked. Men praise books like Madame Bovary, what is Madame Bovary about? A housewife cucking her weak huisband with multiples men, and men love that. You need cuckoldry to appeal to men.
>>25227413Go back to /vn/ cuck
>>25227434that's a real book on amazon
>>25227435Well… never mind then.
>>25227430You're fucking retarded.
>>25227420>MEN don't engage with cartoons OR cuckoldrylol
Why can't a romance be both?You can have the wholesome courtship with the qt virgin girl and all that stuff, then you have rough strangling sex with her too because there's nothing wrong with that either.You can be the evil/dark werewolf rapist male fantasy for the cute, vulnerable, breedable female fantasy. It's like pieces of a puzzle that perfectly fit together.Why not just have both?
>>25226958My fantasy is a scary and stinky werewolf monster woman and I wrote a whole novel about it
>>25226958You can tell who ever made this doesn't read "Men's Romance" there's novel out there where the MC get's raped by the woman
>>25227449Correct. Real men don't. You're not a real man, cuck. The mere suggestion of cuckoldry drives REAL MEN into a murderous rage.
>>25227464Did your wife's boyfriend tell you that, anon? lol
>>25227430>Arthur and Guinevere: cucked by Lancelot>Tristan and Isolde: literally about cucking the man Isolde was promised to>Orlando and Angelica: she cucks Orlando with nearly every male character in the poem Damn why is the western canon so full of cuckoldry?
>Did your wife's boyfriend tell you that, anon? lol
>>25227499In the first two you‘re supposed to sympathize with the younger, more virile cuckolder and not the passive royal. I don‘t know what Ariosto‘s problem was.
>>25226958What does more damage to society, men watching porn or women reading porn?
>>25227514
Yes read Stendhal
>>25227438Madame Bovary would have never even happened if Charles had just been Chad enough to give her the dicking she wanted. Fact.
>>25226958>women want the guys absolute attention Omg no way wowhow insightful Shit meme
>>25227591>women want the guys absolute attention >men want their wife turned into a slut for other menWhy are men like this?!
>>25227624It's called having a soul, foid. You wouldn't get it.
>>25227677>ntr>soul
>men want their wife turned into a slut for other menKill yourself, cuck.
>>252274202D >>>>> 3D
>>25227739Just say you're a forty year old virgin next time, loser.
>>25227413they hated jesus because he told them the truthbehold, romance for men as written by men
>>25227475That insult doesn't make any sense. You're the one who is a cuckold, not him.
>>25226958The harem version is more accurate honestly, even if it isn't as flattering to us. >>25227016It's not as chaste. Although I do love me some Jane Austen.
>>25227430>>25227499This is a resentful brown woman
I did not know men read romance novels. I have read novels with romance as part of their plot. Can't say ive read a romance novel. But I am aware of the phenomenon where women like reading books about being raped. This is pretty big thing now, no? I dont look heavily into what women are doing.
>>25226958
>>25228055really do be this, huh
>>25227745Caring about sex when you're over 30 is kinda sad, desu.
>>25227591>guys absolute attentionToo bad that means choking and being a father surrogate instead of cuddling.
>>25228255Those aren't mutually exclusive...
>>25227745>>25228252Equally gay stances >>25228263Very true, but you're a bit broken for wanting the abuse component at all. Not that I'm much different, women are ten times cuter when they're submissive, obedient and decorated with (consensual, tasteful, etc.) bruises.
>>25226958Men are naturally the romantic gender.Women are simply there to receive and offer almost nothing else that cannot be bought with resources, and they only offer slivers of affection and support with the caveat of the man keeping up with continuous ultimatums. A rich man will marry a poor woman, but a rich woman will never marry a poor man.That alone tells you enough.Women sit at the finish line, they don't want to be part of the journey, kek.
>>25228351Women have inherent value. Beauty and fertility. Men have no inherent value. Men are only worth something if they make it themselves. This simple truth upsets you but it is what it is.
>>25228372no, you're actually just retarded
>>25228351You've been well-brainwashed. Good goy.
>Women have inherent valuelol, lmao. You retards are all brainwashed.
>>25228372Most women are ugly, increasingly few of them have kids. I like how even in your fantasy world and by your own criteria your sex is worthless except as valued by Men.
No, because while women fantasize about alphas, alpha men who fuck don't read to fantasize about romance, that is what beta men do so their romance literature will always be about women loving betas
>>25228372You really think the schizophrenic smelly homeless woman who lives in my town that screams at passing cars has more inherent value just because she has a pussy, huh? Stop watching Andrew Tate podcasts.
>>25228372you really upset the incels with this one kek
>>25228372Yeah, they have inherent value for an extremely limited amount of time time. And usually only IF they use their value early on correctly and they become mothers and have child-rearing experience that then turns into becoming a grandmother with generational wisdom and support for her children and grandchildren and so on. But most of that " inherent value" is spent in youthful hedonism, joining the sisterhood brainwashing cult of feminism and then chasing a dead-end career, kek.>Pic highly related
>>25228372Nigger.
>>25227455>then you have rough strangling sex with her too because there's nothing wrong with that either.You mistake violence for passion
>mating pressing wife>pinning her wrists down just for support >she struggles briefly smiling at how overpowered she is under me >[take notes]
>>25228372Men are under biological assault by multinationals, whether by intent or negligence. The effects cant be mitigated using TRT/HCG treatments, though these carry risks, and cannot alter the effects that occurred in utero, such as skull shape and skeletal frame. These are set for life. I think every human being is worth something, at least in the sense of being worth the opportunity to reach their full biological potential, if nothing else. Except for the people who did this, which is a global issue now: biocide. They are worth nothing, I do not view them as people. The law should always be followed, but these people should be subject to its fullest extent. And people need to recognize this and drop the "redpill boostraps" shit. Shits embarassing and makes you sound like a retard given the reality of the situation.
>>25228840*can be mitigated
>>25228372>Women have inherent value. Beauty and fertility. Men have no inherent value.Thought no pre 1960s society. Ever. Women were breeding tanks kept in private. The beauty of an adolescent boy was valued higher than that of a woman even in the shittiest of the shitttiest societies like Islamic nations and Indian kingdoms. Women were considered trash. Treated as trash. Considered by learned men to be soulless trash. Now return to your cuck chair and observe, shota pinkie long dick in ursine hand, mouth "ready for nigger log" wide open, thick fat nerd tongue flapping, thick square glasses foggy and eclipsing your beady crustacean eyes, lust sparkling, how the pleasure of your cancerous porcine BPD wife, beautiful and fertile, inherently valuable with her tattoo stained dunes of excess flesh, getting genetically enhanced by her anthracite shaded boyfriend.
>>25228372you have never lived with a woman who wasn't mommy and it shows
>>25228055If anything it's an argument that trannies are women.
>>25229794most successful suicides are by males.
>>25228279The so-called male loneliness epidemic explained in one single post. No self-respecting woman wants a man who bitches about her tastes. This is why you - rightfully - get ghosted.
>>25228372nah women are gross and degenerate creatures, worse and more fucked in the head than men on average, crueler too. I can trust some men across all walks of life. I cannot trust a woman.
>>25228372>if i use the word truth in my argument then my argument is true!
>>25228351deep stuff, which neo-masculinity youtuber taught you this one
>>25228351People who have never been in relationships love to say this stuff to fit in with the adults.
>>25229957I think they are equally fucked up. I read about a man recently who shot himself, his wife and his kids, because he was mad about something. She didn't even cheat.
>>25227430Exactly. This is why Bakker is KING.
>>25230005Where are women ever romantic? Is it that they utilize their sexuality and fertility as their only bargaining chips that make them romantic? All their erotic literature is some Herculean type who makes everything happen for her.Women fetishize romance, men make it happen. Men fight the wolf pack, dragons, demons and serpents as the woman sits back. I'm not saying a woman's role is unimportant in a relationship or family. But it is really overblown. And women are definitely NOT the romantics that culture has deemed them to be. Men objectively do more romantic things for women than women do for men.
>>25230085you are 19 and have never had a girlfriend
>>25227499>Damn why is the western canon so full of cuckoldry?It can't be helped, it's the intellectual's fetish, after all.
Keep these threads coming guys. Can’t get enough of the same regurgitated arguing points that have nothing to do with literature on /lit/.
>>25227003>>25227400He's right. I'm trying to imagine the fairy that would read a novel for the romance, obviously you must be socially rejected. Same thing with a woman who reads romance. Longing is not healthy and if you're longing you know you're not happy.Happy people seek thrill, they do not chase emotional fulfillment from fiction because they already get it in their life.Women find thrill in subjugation and men find thrill in domination. Plenty of men's romance fall in the latter category.
>>25230124Okay, then, here's something relevant to both the the thread and /lit/. How are women romantic in literature? Romance is literature is usually male or female perspective/orientated. But who preforms their "romantic" actions?
