>The CIA funded the Frankfurt School and Post-modernism to subvert MarxismTACTICAL TRVKE
>hourly Marxoid threadmaybe if your ideology wasn't totally worthless it wouldn't be so easy to subvert
>>25231006>President Xi, look out! I say as I dive in front of him, shielding his body from flying copies of One-Dimensional Man and Negative Dialectics.
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>>25231006That makes sense actually
Not quite...
>>25231006And the Soviet Union funded any number of foreign activists, academics and trade unions to subvert democracy.Yes, the Cold War was a two-way street. Oh, and the Marxists lost.
>>25232025This. It is all jewish banker theater
>>25231006It is insane to me that Americans don't seem to understand that every intellectual movement that has appeared in the west post WW2 has been an anti communist project. Even most western communists were opposed to the Communist block. The entirety of modern western civilization is an anti communist project.>>25232025>>25232182This must really sound cool if you have an IQ in the negative.
>>25232191lol communism is a trash ideology (aesthetic) for troons and seething third worlders. outside of the internet it's been irrelevant for decades. there's no conspiracy
>>25232191Yeah because the west is competing with communists to be authoritarian hegemons. Just because the "bad" side is against something or someone doesn't automatically mean what it's against is good.
>>25232191We do. We just don't care because it benefits US.
>>25232191You're a lunatic. Communism was popular among the American elite for a very long time.
>>25232448Source or STFU.
>>25231006I'm still trying to figure out what the point is? So the conspiracy theory is that America was a trad conservative utopia and then the CIA just for funsies funded and pushed counter culture and other sorts of non-conformist beliefs onto society at home and abroad? What is the end goal?
>>25232664https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_LeftSpecifically to create a left that wasn't antagonistic to American foreign policy
>>25232448>Communism was popular among the American eliteThe people who funded and organized every single reactionary movement in recent history and are single-handedly responsible for Capitalism surviving the 20th century loved communism? I understand that most right wingers are knuckle dragging retards but you should understand that the reason why you are poor has nothing to do with communism. Rich people just think you are a cockroach.
Commies are just as bad as naziboos in the desperate inventing of narratives for why they got BTFO on the world stage. I can barely tell the difference between the two anymore. It's all excuses, resentment, and wishing death on the Other.
>>25232725>I can barely tell the difference between the two anymoreThere's barely a shred of difference. They're just two strains of authoritarian collectivism.
>>25231006>subvertMore like appropriate.
>>25232717Yes, you dumb bitch. Look at all the popular authors of the 20s. Half of them were communists. Screenwriters. Communism has always been hip among the American elite. It has never been a remotely edgy or dangerous position. Even during the 'red scare' it just meant a few brazen communists had to work under pen names.
>>25232761>Look at all the popular authors of the 20s. Half of them were communists. Screenwriters.>screenwriters and authors are the eliteYou are a fat stupid man.
>>25232792Yes you dumb motherfucker. The cultural elite. I know you think the Waltons run the country or some dumb shit but it has always been the idea people. Just look at how America has treated socialists versus fascists. Which side gets the favorable treatment? The side the elite sympathizes with.
>>25232761>Authors>Screenwriters Your understanding of the "elite" is not the people who own all the companies, the people who make all the political decisions, but people like Jack London constitute the "elite" for you?I understand that being a fat white suburban American means you sit in your pod all day and consoom products so you think that the people who write stories for Netflix TV shows of all things are the pinnacle of society for you but you could maybe read at least some basic books on not even political theory but just 101 analysis of how the American political and corporate system functions.
>>25232802You should really consider stopping embarrassing yourself by posting about topics you don't understand at some point and time kid.
>>25232802Fascists have been an integral part of the American ruling system really since its inception. Since what is traditionally referred to as Fascism was basically the primary way of organizing white people in American society until very recently. Most of the doctrines and atrocities that characterized Nazi Germany in the 1940's just consisted of adapting American internal politics to the territory of Europe. The fact that you are confused about these things seems to be a lack of basic historical literacy. I recommend reading anything about the cold war.Literally just read J. Sakai.
>>25232807Yes, communist. Only communists think le rich businessmen are the ones running the show. Then, like today, it is the "experts." America has been ruled by "experts" -aka academics, writers, the intellectual elite. They control public policy, aka decision making. The rich businessmen suffer their nonsense, their DEI, HR departments, metoo, etc. >>25232811You should consider putting a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger hahaYou keep calling me fat. Care to post physique? I will if you do.
>>25232821Yeah definitely. Everyone to the right of Chairman Mao is a fascist, therefore America is a fascist country. Never heard that one before.In reality, fascists get the Charlottesville/ J6 treatment, commies get processed and released immediately.But keep living in your made up fantasy world all your stupid bitch modern retard books reinforce. Keep reading them. They're all equally retarded and living in the same dumb frame as you.Communists are dumb bitches who are 100% still on the reservation but think they're off it.
>>25232821>Literally just read J. SakaiWatching Settlers mindfuck all the Something Awful proto troons who then spread out and ultra gigafucked the entire internet ecosystem was enough for me fren.
>>25232824>The rich businessmen suffer their nonsenseThe people who own every segment of society, who can on a whim decide to fire people on a whim, who are the ones hiring scary HR people are "suffering" someone?I understand again that you most likely don't think things through and you most definitely have never read a book on the subject, but try either the book that OP posted or look into J. Sakai's Settlers.>>25232827Yes, American society is inherently Fascist. The fact that you mention J6, an attempted Fascist coup, as an example is great. We almost saw a complete fascist takeover of the entire state apparatus and outside of a few prison sentences nothing was done about it.
>>25232725Marxists HATE when this is pointed out.
>>25232849>I understand again that you most likely don't think things through and you most definitely have never read a book on the subject, but try either the book that OP posted or look into J. Sakai's Settlers.You I understand again that you most likely don't think things through and you most definitely have never read a book on the subject, but try either the book that OP posted or look into J. Sakai's Settlers.You really talk like a bitch.Hey you stopped calling me fat. Are you gonna post your body now, fatass punk bitch? Mantitties fatboy? Sissy estrogen lefty?>Yes, American society is inherently Fascist. The fact that you mention J6, an attempted Fascist coup, as an example is great. We almost saw a complete fascist takeover of the entire state apparatus and outside of a few prison sentences nothing was done about it.Haha you're retardedA few peasants gathered around the castle, lead by Judas Goats, and were promptly made an example ofThat's the closest fascism has ever come to becoming powerful in AmericaNevermind all the similar leftist events that took place. Were those people all thrown in solitary confinement without charges for years?Leftists get treated with kid gloves. Fascists get made an example of. If someone gets outed as a "fascist" they're ruined, their life is over. No company will hire them.If they are outed as a socialist, nobody cares.Tell me, how does THAT make any sense to your worldview? That companies will hire communists, but not fascists?
>>25232734Trvke, Hitler was a communist before becoming natsoc, mussolini was a socialist before becoming fascist. It's just different flavors of authoritarian collectivism. Really though collectivist ideology is authoritarian by nature, every single one of these ideologies claimed they were for "the people". In reality it's all just a pretense for egoism and "the people" is just an abstraction of individuals not an actual tangible entity. If commies recognized that they could have their little commietopia with other like minded commies, a union of egoists, instead of trying to force everyone into their ant mound. At least in the past there was no pretense leaders were for "the people", they were explicitly elitist and individualist. Now we have to deal with retards thinking this time their populist delusion will give us real democracy.
>>25232867You have not once backed up anything you said with anythingYou come off as a delusional idiot.>Leftists get treated with kid gloves. Fascists get made an example I understand that you don't like reading even as you browse a literature board but another book I recommend is The Jakarta Method. The united states' funds and organizes entire genocides of Communists while placing fascists in positions of government. Hence the entirety of the Latin American Fascist movement and its many regimes.Literally just read books and you'll realize how idiot you sound.
is there any documentary evidence or this is another leftist conspiracy theory?
>>25232886leninism is inherently elitist where the vanguard party leads the dopey masses around and does everything on their behalf, and i don't mean just in practice, like that is literally lenin's theory.
>>25232892I am already familiar with your worldview. It's Basic. It's what we were all taught in school, by television.>muh contras! muh CIA in latin America!I don't care to debate you but if you were a willing interlocutor I could take apart every one of your talking points, I know them all.Anyways. I suggest getting in shape.
>>25232924You literally have not "taken apart" anything. You're experiencing cognitive dissonance right and are unable to justify the fascist worldview your community has taught you so you write this nonsense. Stop posting if you have nothing to say.>I suggest getting in shapeI already am lmao
>>25232191>It is insane to me that Americans don't seem to understand that every intellectual movement that has appeared in the west post WW2 has been an anti communist project.I know commies are deluded but come on lol
>>25232892>The united states' funds and organizes entire genocides of Communists Yeah in Indonesia, but the people who actually went out and did the murder were Indonesian and they're still in power. Those third-world masses you admire so much are bigger Hitlerites than the Americans:https://youtu.be/yTctv0IxRgAIt's not a positive argument for communism either, most of the ones I see (at least on the internet anyways, I don't see them in real life) come across as awful people who hate each other and treat each other badly. Interpersonal trust among them is zero. Just a really radical anomie going on there. And they expect "the workers" to stick their necks out and sacrifice themselves for them? I don't think that's realistic.
>>25232802>The cultural eliteThey are simply mouthpieces for their masters. They are on the same level as Roman actors. Prostitutes.
>>25233061No, you're wrong. Who are their masters? Fucking Elon Musk or some shit? Bezos? Those are just rich guys trying to make a buck and maybe buy a little influence. Moldbug's model of it is most accurate. There is no clear hierarchy. There are no puppet masters. There are institutions. The Press. Academia. The State Department. DoD. They are pretty much all in bed with each other and on the same page. These are the people behind social justice, DEI, covid, Kamala-Biden, antifa, etc. Their politics are clear. Obviously, they are pretty lenient towards communism.
>>25232975>I know commies are deluded but come on lolWestern commies probably most of all, they are incredibly provincial people who don't know anything about the world, if they did they'd be one-shotted by how freaky and cosmic joke-coded the world actually is. They'd discover race science they never thought possible. Not that the third world is good, a lot of people are insanely retarded, I'm just saying. Kemi Badenoch is the leader of the Tories now, she was born in the U.K. but comes from Nigerian background, and in her first interview as Tory leader said she identified more as Yoruba because the people in the north of the country are their "ethnic enemies" and she didn't want to be "lumped in" with those people. A lot of governments that LARP as righteous harbingers of decolonization rig elections and engage in brutal military occupations. All of the Western commies' third world revolutionary heroes were for lower trade barriers in the First World so they could manufacture jeans and sell them to Becky from L.A. to make money. A Pakistani girl who was part of some local ethnic Marxist-Leninist organization blew herself up in an attack on a Pakistani army installation and her social media account was posting Marx, Lenin, Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. When Japan was assisting China economically in the 70s-80s, Chinese delegates were shocked by Japanese experts telling them that Marxism had saved post-war Japan, and that Japan was a socialist country. In fact, Japanese economics departments had a heavy presence of Marxists and some of them advised the Liberal Democratic Party which has basically ruled the country uncontested since World War II. Many such cases:https://youtu.be/ujGriZmmRP4
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>>25233112>There are no puppet masters. There are institutionsyeah so when for example trump rubeo kegseth and even jaideep vance who part of his persona was stay out of the sandbox act against their interests and the interests of their institutions to do what netanyahu says
>>25231006if it's unethical, the CIA funds it.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JavPI3Iw7LE
>>25233121>Richard Dawkinswhen mahometus begins the coran with> in the name of God, most merciful, most beneficientthose are claims about the nature of God that dawkins directly disputes. whereas in His Old Testament, God claims> I AMand also> My name is Jealous
Jacobin mag ran a piece having a total melty over this book lol
>>25234133>twitter screenshotI'd happily put a bullet in the back of your head.
>>252328862015 called, it wants its lolbert atomized Jewish individualism back
>>25234137Its clearly instagram you violent ape. What a terrible thread.
>>25233112Nice to know there are still retards operating on pre covid and epstei n culture war era politics running around.
>>25234068If Netanyahu had that level of control, there would be boots on the ground. They would not be talking peace. Obviously, Israel has too much influence over US mid Eastern policy. But there's no way to look at it and see it as some absolute puppetmaster situation.For example a bit ago, Israel wanted to step in to help their friends the Druze who were being massacred in Syria. They asked America, America said no, so they didn't. These sorts of things are always happening and make it clear that America is absolutely an independent actor. Closely allied with Israel, cooperative with them. But not their mindless slave.
