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I deadass don't know what this book is trying to communicate
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>>25234478
that the west has declined
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>>25234478
Like a fish cant see water
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>>25234478
I saw a breadtuber recommend this book. Is it actually worth reading?
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>>25234478
That it’s all circles, bro fr
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>>25234478
it means you're culture and civilization are fucked, and all notions to the contrary are delusional.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg
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>>25234478
only white people can understand, sorry
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>>25234478
>deadass
Please hang yourself.
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>>25234478
history is a cycle and the west is officially caught in 4k mid-flop cuz we traded our aura for corporate brainrot and npc vibes, so now we’re just waiting for a caesar-tier main character to ratio democracy into the abyss fr fr on god no cap skibidi rizz.

>>25234667
take a lap and touch some grass unc, cuz you’re really doing the most for zero clout, on god it’s giving insecure energy.
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>>25234478
>smacks lips
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>>25234478
A theory of the progress and decline of social units, using an analogy to the morphological language of biology.
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>>25234850
>we traded our aura for corporate brainrot and npc vibes
Yeah I can't help but feel Spengler's thesis of decline is based on vibes.
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>>25234510
The only "breadtuber" I've seen recommend this is Ordinary Things, who is rapidly transforming into a chudtuber.
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>>25234478
shit's fucked m8
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>>25235440
>rapidly transforming into a chudtuber
kek based
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>>25234478
Drop this and read Marx for a real scientific narrative of history.
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>>25234478
frfr where's the pictures in this cuh
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>>25235562
I'm a chud but esteemed "chud theory" books are all terrible. Idk why that is
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>>25235642
because they're all vibes with no real substance
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>>25235760
Right because Marx's teleological cultist religion is way more substantive. Actual scientology tier shit written by an insane narcissist who couldn't even take care of his own family. Meanwhile Spengler never claimed certainty or telos at all, just mere observation as a thought exercise
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>>25235765
>Teleological
>Cultish
>Personal life
This sophistry is what happens when a mental midget has no counter-arguments against Marx's main points
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>>25236001
>sophistry
>mental midget
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>>25236001
Lmao. That is the counter argument against his main points. Marxists truly are retards. Keep praying, the Redemption will come soon!
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decline of the west cites a LOT of other books
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>>25236191
>That is the counter argument against his main points
Cannot have a better live demonstration of what 98iq looks like
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>>25236411
It's teleological and eschatological, descriptive, not as a pejorative. I agree, this has been an excellent demonstration
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>>25234478
I mean it's trying to communicate many things about many different subjects. Can you at least say something, you don't understand?
>>25234562
I would say that most modern Spenglerites I know of are either from central Europe or from India/the middle east.
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>>25234478
The final chapter to Vol. 2 "The Machine" is just about the most prescient and terrifying thing I've ever read.
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>>25236498
I see a lot of what drove the development of the Internet and attitudes toward it in Spengler's philosophy, particularly that last chapter, I see even more of it in a lot of science fiction and transhumanism. Though I think the fantasy of space travel and perpetual movement toward the stars is a mirage, a fairytale. The faustian tends to abhor physicality and prefers the utethered boundlessness the internet promises it may someday provide.
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>>25236749
Spenglers work, Man and Technics (or, Man and His Technics, can't remember) is extremely interesting if the transhumanist internet angle is something you find relevant here.
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>>25235765
>>25235562
Both of you are gonna get a big ol shining "didnt read Marx award"
Marx was better at predicting things than Spengler it just so happens his predictions will only come true like 100-200 or so years for now so see ya in the afterlife and im gonna be laughing and doing pirouettes as a ghost and im really gonna scare some poor lumpenprole's daughter who will also be ghost raped by evil socialist spirits when all comes to pass
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>>25236749
Yes absolutely, Spengler had his thumb directly on the pulse of the technocratic mindset. The great irony is that AI will make the engineer masters of the machine obsolete, intelligencizing the machine itself in a final act of total automation and cosmic evolution. From there space travel becomes an obtainable imperial necessity, not a pipedream limited by human biology and time constraints.
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>>25234850
Time is a flat circle
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>>25234478
the West has fallen billions must die o algo
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>>25236767
I know, but I'm not much of a singularitarian.
>>25236776
I actually don't believe it will go to that. That's a mirage, too. The AI god is not within our grasp, and neither is mass transcendence. Many are blinded by the eschatology inherent in the narrative of technological progress. We are squarely within the stage of engineering over science, so to speak.
And for what it's worth, I can see the second religiousness peeking over the horizon. Ready to devour what remains of our rationalist epoch.
>>25236768
Marx thought he had debunked the concept of derivates and by extension all of calculus. I wouldn't trust that guy to predict that the sun will rise up tomorrow.
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>>25235437
I immediately lost any interest in reading the book or respect for ideas it put forth once I learned that it was published in the wake of the fall of Imperial Germany.
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>>25236768
>Marx was better at predicting things
>except none of them have actually come true... just 2 more weeks...
why are they like this



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